business. i remember when i was there at the border when the haitian population was coming across and the mexican officials pushed the haitians into the united states. it seems like there is a different response running straight through them. what do you know to be true? >> lawrence, listen. this caravan is so unique. when i went down to panama a week and a half ago, i saw tens of thousands of haitians. when i got here to mexico, i expected to see thousands of haitians in a caravan. but, instead, it's not. i have never seen a caravan and i covered the one two years ago that went all the way from san paid degrees, honduras to guatemala to mexico across from eagle pass, texas where governor abbott has fortified defenses on the line so to say this. caravan is made up of at least 20 different countries. i have met people from central america that northern triangle. honduras, guatemala, el