turning to this now. here with me tonight, the host from the kitchen table podcast rachel and sean duffy. thank you all so much for being in studio. we are getting back to normal finally. >> rachel: we are. i love being in here. >> lawrence: you guys have a lot of kids. you love them all. how do you all feel about these mandates and the fact that these parent are standing up to it, rachel? >> i think it's amazing they are doing it first of all, can i say with schwartz negativer. they aresaying we want to make e decisions based on information. as you used the word in your monologue i'm going to say it really businessing me off is that they have been censoring the information. that's what made us go we can't just rely on the government and nic and nih. they have had 42.