they think this is nonsense. >> shannon: we talked to trey gowdy last night. a long established prosecutor. he said if you think you know what the vote is going to be, you don't waste a lot of times on the argument. you don't want to lose the case. that's what the leadership wants to do in the senate. vote and move on. >> yes. i don't think there is a willingsness to call hunter biden and joe biden. the president is pushing for a longer impeachment hearing. i don't think it's a winning strategy for this president. i don't think he wants adam schiff testifying. >> shannon: oh, i don't know. the president might that want. >> chairman schiff has been effective compared to nadler making the case to the american people. >> shannon: he wants to ask about the contact with the whistleblower. >> of course. because adam schiff lied about