terms of those alternatives, but she's really faltered. she hasn't run a good campaign and pete buttigieg, he's a very good performer. when you scrutinize his policies, there is a lot of rich targets they are for republicans that he's a certainly -- you can see why he's doing well in iowa because he's local effectively from indiana, he's close, understands the communities there. he's done a very strong, and a lot of effort into organizing on the ground in iowa and it's paying lords. >> shannon: he has. he has done a ton of events. with politics, people want to see you in their house of worship, diner, home. he's been spending a lot of time there. steve hilton, thank you very much. >> good to see you, shannon. >> shannon: can president trump scrapped the aca daca? many of them living with families of their own. the supreme court took up the question as the administration argued that daca was never legal