doug schoen and deputy assistant president george w. bush, brad, great to have you with us. >> pleased to be here. >> shannon: jim bryant said it would be disruptive to classes and unfortunately gun violence in the u.s. there was some concern to cause a panic if someone heard gunshots on the ground, canceling the 21 gun salute on veterans day. as an alumnus, i am a therapist. what a pain a pantywaist. he wants to take that first, brad comella start with you. >> what is shameful to politicize veterans day is bad enough, but they took it one step further and that is somehow to demonize and to shame the military for the highest honor they can render 21 gun salute and equate to gun violence. shame on the university of virginia. >> shannon: right to be worried that some students might be fearful or traumatized by that? >> i finished working on the virginia legislative elections.