and families to other countries in the european union. some may want to come to the united states and canada. so other countries need to up their systems because 2 million it's in the something that we can cope with for much longer. jacqui: the biggest objective for ukraine is air superiority. ukraine wants migs from poland, the fire jets. the u.s. military has decided that ukraine doesn't need them for a number of reasons despite the huge push in congress to get it done. do you think that that is the right decision? >> well, ukraine has received effective antitank and antiaircraft weapons. our mig 29s i'm told could be used by ukraine and ukraine can use them to launch some other and i understand the polish side was willing to do it and it's the u.s. that has been skeptical as you said.