tax cut among other things the child tax credit. it will stem inflation, lower unemployment rates, help build jobs, help and improve our country and help americans from elder care to prescription drugs to child care, they say it's good and it is a good thing and we need this. >> yeah. that was verse five of john lennon's imagine. they really believe politics bring about heaven and there are no price tags to it. it is total bs math. every adult paying attention to cbo or who talks to joe manchin, my liver has given a bit for this decent cause, i actually talked to joe manchin. i listened to joe manchin unlike white house. white house spits on americans an insisted it is raining. eric: what was that conversation like? >> joe manchin says in private what he says in public which is, he takes national defense and national security seriously and he had a bunch of four-star generals tell him a handful of years ago, when the debt hit