that border and allow the catch and release that we heard bill talk about in the segment and that's why the migrant caravans are coming to the border, overwhelming number of folks at the border because they want to remain in the united states while awaiting court proceedings. as long as the biden administration encourages that and has policies to accommodate that you're going to continue to see historic numbers across this border. griff: i want to talk about a specific pull factor as we're told from the border patrol folks and that is this possible payments nearly half a million dollars to migrant families separated at the border, as we showed in the polls, just 30% support payments while 49% say don't pay anybody at all and 12% oppose it and pay some money. do you see that as incentive a