hospitals, pay organizers, get people mental health care and overall healthcare employment, etc. we should support communities, not throw them away. jacqui: what you make of that? >> the way to deal with the covered epidemic is close hospitals and not count how many people die that way you don't have an epidemic just like we have an epidemic in homicide, if you don't hold people accountable, we don't have a homicide problem, it's ludicrously but not to be unexpected. jacqui: thank you very much for discussing this sensitive topic with us. griff: the third leg of horseracing triple crown set for this afternoon, we are live in new york for the 153rd running, next. ♪♪