for any ideological movements, sociopolitical change, religiou police including nonbelief specific interpretations of morality are legislative and statutory change so the argumen is, listen, we've got regulations that say you can't have a religious purpose he can't use the official military emblems with a bible verse. >> sean and, they allowed shields of strength to do this for years, decades, without any problem they were happy to do business with shields of strength, to have that relationship because of the great things you just heard describing he's a patriotic american he loves this country he loves our military, they wanted shields of strength in our military our military members request these by the thousands and kidney donates them out of his own pocket. it wasn't until this complete showed up that all of a sudden they got spooked and said oh, this might violate the so-calle separation of church and state, you better stop now or we might get sued or get some bad publicity. first liberty institute, we did see them as a result of their