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or legal concealed carry owners who are involved in those. those are criminals. why hasn't it affected them at all? >> shannon: quickly with the time we have left, what do you think the odds are given the nine justices that we currently have, the court's makeup? >> i'm hesitant to try to second-guess what the supreme court is going to do or what any judge is going to do for that matter. i think the constitutionalists on the court, i think they're going to interpret the constitution the way the framers meant it originally and i'm looking forward to that. >> shannon: november 3rd, this second amendment case gets to the court. thanks for your time. >> thank you very much, a pleasure being on your show. >> shannon: we've got some good news for you before we say good night -- i want to mow your lawn! that's what brian schwartz is calling his free lawn mowing service after he got laid off

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