anywhere. >> shannon: correct, we know the heller decision was a big step in second amendment jurisprudence, what is the potential here? i know chief justice roberts tends to keep the court more narrow in some of these decisions, what is the potential impact beyond new york for gunowners across the country? >> it depends on how broad the ruling is, essentially there are 12 or 14 states that have rules and laws similar to new york. if it's an overreaching decision, it can possibly change the gun laws throughout those states and make concealed carry outside of the home waffle. >> shannon: i want to read from the aclu and give you a chance to respond. they say new york's regulation of public carry is well within mainstream of policy choices,