of egress that go back and forth which much supplies in and out of that region but at the same time, the houthis wouldn't be attempting this if this he felt we had had different leadership in the united states and even in the uk. >> trace: good assessment. congressman mike gallagher gop house armed services committee member said the following i will a see if you agree on this cameron. watch. >> the administration is claiming that these long-overdue strikes will do just that but at the same time simultaneously admitting that the houthis are likely to retaliate, which by definition means that deterrence is not restored. so i hope this marks the beginning of a shift in the administration's posture towards iran and its proxies. we will have to get more aggressive. >> trace: but there's no indication, cameron, that the biden administration has any intention of going directly after iran. >> that's absolutely correct. there are a lot of different leverages that we can use for influence and to put pressure on iran. some direct, some indirect. and i think we should use other