else wants. but yes, we are a long way from such a deal at this point todd and carley. >> todd: as people try to simplify this explained it to the masses, what could be created in ukraine is north and south korea. do you think that is an accurate assessment? >> i think it might be an accurate assessment that the russians would like to walk away with. if they can control part or even half of ukraine and leave the rest to ukrainians. but that is absolute nonstarter for the ukrainian people. president zelenskyy having fought so hard and see his people fight so hard cannot now be seen to be handing territory to the russians to be sagging "hey, you came in to the aggressor and killed hundreds of children and destroyed town after town after town. you caused 4 million people to