to the strangulation marks, that will give an answer to one of the things the defense is going to bring up with the diagnosis of strangulation, the preppy murder of the 1980s that was popular, a young woman in central park, thought to be severe consensual activity and the jury went to trial and hung up on it and did not convict him of the murder even though what he claimed during rough sex, rough sex defense. jillian: they didn't clarify if it was manual strangulation. >> he didn't. it is interesting.