approval, not -- in west virginia he is at 18% approval. independents are leaving him in droves, down 25 points since june. why support a president this unpopular right now with a spending plan supposedly costs $0 that is not true so that is where we are. jillian: you mentioned independents and there is another independence, andrew yang quit the democratic party saying, quote, i am confident no longer being a democrat is the right thing, our system is stuck. many people i know are doing all the good they can but their impact is constrained. now i'm not a member of one party or another i feel like i can be more honest about the system and the people in it. we spent countless times as you mentioned independents other people to watch when it comes to elections because that is you engage on how things will play out. you have someone who has been in the spotlight from the democratic party now in independent and wonder if people in general are getting tired of