grant for parole. you know, what's happening here in california is we're headed for lawlessness and unless things change here, we really are. you know, i just heard the story before. we are. we're in a public crisis here. because the fact that the governor, who is facing a recall, would do something so, so callus and so cold to let this killer out without -- it's not even the fact that he let him out, it's how let him out. there was no notice to the community or the attorney's office, more importantly, no notice to the victim's family who have been advocating for this man to stay in custody. jillian: this is newsom accepting the board of parole's ruling, this reads he does not pose a current unreasonable risk to public safety. you know, i bet the family members of the man who was killed would certainly argue this. what do you have to say, jim? >> well, thank you, jillian, for having us on.