and not only to see that, but know that each one of those names they had their own friends and family, they had their own story, they had their own life and they sacrificed that for our american ideal, for this ideal of freedom, and knowing that those seals are just a fraction of the heroes that have given their lives for this great nation, so we just you need the to make sure that we never forget them. jillian: absolutely. and there's a lot dividing people today but i think it's important that we step back and we remember there are so many people who have made that ultimate sacrifice, fighting for us, so we can live in this great country, so we can be free and experience all the things we do. you are one of those who fought for those things for us, jocko willink, thank you for your service again. we appreciate it. thanks for being here today. >> thanks for having me, jillian. todd: coming up, the city of brotherly love turning a cold shoulder to science as it lifts only some of the coronavirus