him about impeachment. when you read the actual transcript as did i this morning of their back and forth, both of them were saying they have real angst. they both believe to be clear that the house should have voted for impeachment. they don't like what the president did on ukraine. you can debate that both of them who are not trump fans say they are nervous this is going to boomerang on democrats because this is all about 2020. look at the economy, very strong for the president right now. if he gets acquittal and comes out of the impeachment battle stronger and put that with a strong economy. both stephens and collins in the "new york times" are saying might not be good for democrats. griff: that's a great point. talk more later today in the show about the economy. stephens does say the economy is doing too well to be a winning issue for democrats framing the biggest problem. katie: becoming increasingly clear that democrats aren't going to pass things over until they can guarantee a conviction against the president. they continue to call for impartiality. ed: more about politics than being prayerful.