steve: so it's not a legal thing he is answering. it's a political problem he is posing for his father? >> precisely. precisely. did they want rudy giuliani and the president to expose this? of course not. did they think that he would be the target of the president's personal like this. i can't imagine. steve: that's all political. >> correct. correct. brian: we also know that new yorker magazine did an extensive article went up like 5,000 pages about a month ago where he continued about his continuing battle with substance abuse up until very, very recently the reason he was kicked out of the military. couldn't serve there a day. he failed the first test he took. >> right. brian: it's a bit of a dicey situation. doesn't profile as someone who should be heading up an investment firm with chinese can with a chinese investor and did meet with that guy on air force 2. >> again, all of it looks bad but none of it is criminal. and you know this is the way