if it's just about what we have of a transcript of a call and a nine-page complaint. and they are going to fish for the next few weeks with a series of guests and get nothing, is it enough to impeach a president or does something have to be unearthed behind closed doors? >> look, brian, as far as is it enough to impeach the president, if they are going to do a raw political impeachment where they are just relying on the fact that they have the numbers and they can make jay walking an article of imeevment if they decide to just because they have enough votes, sure they can beach is him over it. it will rebound to their great detriment. your point just now about this guy calling and saying he had an urgent concern, to me, that just underscores how lawyered up this is. he didn't have an urgent concern like you and i are talking right now having a normal person or as normal as we can be, brian, a normal person conversation. he was invoking a term of