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dhs secretary ken cuccinelli. ken, welcome. this situation tells me two things, one, russians want to leave russia and two, they know our southern border is open, right? >> those are two things and a third when you see the asylum claims coming out of this population is there is downright fear among russians much their own government. this isn't random. now they can be gaming our asylum system. other people do that all the time. nonetheless, i would add that third one in there, rachel. and i do think, that setting immigration aside for the moment, there is some benefit to us on the political world, world political stage of granting some of these asylum cases so we can tell their story to undermine putin in the eyes of the world. so, again, that aside from the immigration aspect of this, but

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