represents her hometown of houston, texas, said russia had no right to detain her and demands her release. pete: ukrainians refuse to back down as russian forces shell their town pushing them further into the country, but a former green beret said they could hit them with a guerrilla campaign that could bleed russia dry. that green beret, leader of operation pineapple, we have retired marine bomb tech, joey jones. thanks for you both being here. scott, start with you, what do you believe ukrainians can do to protrack this? >> i think they're already doing it, pete. they're fighting a conventional fight as you're talking about this morning but also you're seeing this unconventional fight start to happen where partisans, civilians are taking up arms. the fact that putin has extended his lines so long, morale of