workings. i think he's doing a bad thing for the country. i think he, certainly, has been a bad example for the men and women of the fbi who are out there trying to do the job every day. >> tom, what does that mean for the organization as a whole? we've already seen there was a criminal referral that doj declined to prosecute with leaking to the media. the previous inspector general report really took comey to task for his failed leadership, so what does that mean for the organization as a whole when the person at the helm conducts his behavior this way? >> well, look, i think it's clear, it affects morale. the morale of the fbi is at an all-time low because of the failed leadership. i'm not going to compare myself to comey, but since i retired i'm out there fighting for the men and women of i.c.e. trying to educate the american people on the great work they do. i didn't make it personal. i didn't make it about tom homan and anti-obama. i respect every president i've worked for. that's the difference, i believe, in leadership. leadership is about defending your organization and defending