ukrainian president disa linsky. he made up a transcript rather than reading the official record of the conversation and putting that into the congressional record. he's violating rule 23 of the house rules which says a member of the house shall behave in a manner at all times that reflects credibly on the house and that is not what he is doing. >> richard, setting aside whrorpt you think there are impeachable offenses, when you compare this to the clinton impeachment, nixon and others, do you feel that they're playing this above board in a way that will give bipartisan credibility to this if you really believe in it? >> they are doing that. if you look at the rules from the bill clinton impeachment, they're being followed by the letter of the law. what happened in the first stage of this investigation is fact finding. and in those fact-finding conversations, in those depositions, both members of the