the hard, but it balances it. so it's a book to hopefully encourage people of all ages, readers and the children hearing it, to build this foundation of gratitude even when it's hard. pete: i want to ask you just how did you build -- was it practical talking about those things? how do you build that spirit of gratitude considering what your kids and your family went through? it's an amazing message. it's -- it can be hard for people to apply. >> you know, i really appreciate you recognizing that it is the difficult especially in culturizing where we see all the stuff like what you just showed on campuses. it can be easy to get very discouraged about where our society is, culture, people are. it started right after chris died, and i thought i don't know how we're going to afford this house. and a friend of mine if said, taya, you'll always have a roof over your head and food to eat. and i said i don't know if that's even true about a roof right now. and she said, no, no, you will because you have people who love you. and from that day until today,