students only which is why i was able to get in, and the protesters outside including the one who shouted we are hamas who was presumably not a student, in my view, were a lot more aggressive and radical than the students inside. but more than 100 students were arrested, ultimately, for their -- on campus. pel. will: tell me about the students inside. at least in that situation as you pointed out, specifically the more radical stuff perhaps being said on the outskirts of campus which columbia, by the way, i mean, it's new york city, so could be right across the street. but what kind of stuff was being said and what kind of points were being made on campus? >> i saudi absolutely, divest -- saw divulge, divest being chanted, i heard cops being called pigs and students who were dress trespassing and -- press dress the passing and clearly in violation of school rules. i saw lesbians for liberation