interacting in this really fake way that isn't really relational is much more common and i think there is something there. it's really hard to get to that you are right, will, it's really hard. will: something really hard to get to we're talking about red flags and where we can quickly place blame. i think there is going to be difficulty on the legal charges towards these parents because of the lack of one particular piece of evidence that clearly screamed you failed, parents. >> it's possible let's do it text -- don't do it text gets to the timing. earlier i spoke to jonathan turley about involume man slaughter charges and whether or not there is a strong case at this point against the parents. >> i think there's going to be substantial challenges on the appellate level. i have been working through the manslaughter provision on my blog this morning. because it's not a perfect fit. we're going to have to look at what they knew about their son.