homes. we've had a small group of people who have lived a lavish life during the pandemic and imposed tremendous restrictions, blige to the consequences of those who are more vulnerable in our society. will: yeah. it's reflected right there in the numbers, up 30%. debi, we only have about a hadn't left. i know you're here not just to talk about your own personal experience, but to help other mothers who are also in this similar situation. there's record numbers of mothers out there. >> absolutely. there are so many. and it's unfortunate because many of us when we lose our kids, we feel stigmatized. a lot of moms will take on the burden that it's their fault, and i'm here to say it's not your fault. don't feel stigmatized. if you've lost somebody, speak up. the the more people who speak up, the more we're going to get the word out. it's the silence that is killing