numbers. you know what? when the light -- we would talk to him in the green room and whatever we were talking about regarding the news of the day, he knew all about it. and he was interested in our points of view. and then he would tell us his point of view. but then when we would actually start the meat loaf segment, with his actual name marvin lee day. he was very earnest but he was hilarious. and just as piers morgan just said a moment ago in his tweet, he was flamboyant and he was outrageous. and, ainsley, he was a man for the ages. he sold 100 million albums when he first got started he performed on broadway, the l.a. production of hair. he was in wayans world. of course he was in rockie horror picture show. he was even an understudy in 1973 for john belushi on the movie lemmings, ainsley.