approach, ainsley, than what joe and kamala are doing right now. and hillary is just perfect. she would be a great presidential candidate because, among other things, she has got all that political experience, and she is good at balloon drops. >> ainsley: when do we get to a point when we don't have a clinton on the ballot. this would be the sixth election with a clinton on the ballot. maybe we will see chelsea eventually. she is 41. she could run. >> steve: maybe. >> ainsley: every woman would love to see a female president especially when we are raising little girls. is she the right one? is she a democrat? is she going to align with the progressives? do you trust her? there was so much that came out about her when she ran again. biden does he have the capacity to run. kamala harris has not done well on the border. she is not really leaving washington a lot unless she is going to see her family in california. both of them have very low approval ratings. so who do they have? they really don't have anyone