judge and jury from the beginning. >> yeah. and let's bring it back now to what happened yesterday as far as msnbc being banned. you can make the argument, pete, and it's a good one, that msnbc is attempting to obstruct justice here. right? because if the jury is aware that they're being followed, that's intimidation. that's harassment. and this isn't antifa. it's allegedly a national news organization which, for weeks, has been saying that sort of stuff that we just played. and these actions can sway the way they vote in this trial as far as following the jury. and, look, these orders usually don't happen on a low level by the way. i will leave it here. i can waste everyone's time and list the reasons for internal investigation carried out by third party? why bother? msnbc is going to wait this out. they know most media reporters and those covering the industry. tacitly disagree with the. whole bowl of wrong, pete. pete: a bowl of wrong.