and you have to wonder if this phone call from to ghani from the president when they talked to each other prior to his. steve: prior to leaving afghanistan. brian: the president of the united states says he does not see it's inevitable that taliban take over the country. there will not be another saigon moment. it would be worse. they think the 300,000 well-armed army would be able to stand up to 75,000 taliban. but, even president biden had to know when he was saying this this wasn't indeed true. now this transcript has emerged. here is a little of the dialogue. i need to tell you this is biden to ghani. i need to tell you the perception around the world that parts of afghanistan, i believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the taliban. and there is a need, whether it's true or not, there is a need to project a different