>> i think what we noticed in these emails, brian, there is an absence of any real sense of urgency sounding the alarm. by early march, just days before the shutdown his strongest warning was simply to tell old people not to take cruises. hundreds of leaders in the united states were emailing throughout february and early march begging him to understand what should they be doing? how should they prepare? should they take this seriously? absent was any real sounding of the alarm when many of us were around there is a hey, a little help from dr. fauci would be appreciated as we are trying to prepare the country. brian: on this whole mask debate, wherever you stand on it, we know he flip flopped on it we also know in science magazine that chinese scientist who is a friend of his was critical saying why aren't americans being told to mask up? and then he quickly wrote back and said to them sorry, that reporter messed with my words.