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let's do some headlines for you this morning because the iranian military ships could soon be headed to u.s. waters. a top naval officer says the middle eastern country plans to station ships off the coast, no timeline given on when the ships would depart or arrive. iran not saying which kind of ships they will deploy. u.s. officials have not commented on the situation. fugitive caught after 41 years on the run. george wright, the 1970's militant who escaped to new jersey prison and hijacked the plane to nigeria finally caught in portugal. they matched his fingerprint to an i.d. card. right now 68 years old, escaped to africa after hijacking a delta airlines flight and getting a million dollars ransom. right now, awaiting extradition back to the united states. a death row inmate in oregon begging to be executed. gary hougen asking a judge to waive his appeal and proceed with the execution. he calls the lawyers that want to save his life tree hugers. if he gets his wish, it would be oregon's first in 14 years. he pleaded guilty to beating his ex-girlfriend's mother to death and was also convicted of killing another inmate. and the dog, as eric was telling you about having a rough, rough day. you're looking at mango, 3-year-old pomeranian who ran away from home and on to a deadly freeway in oregon. he dodged six lanes of traffic before a group of drivers pulled over. even then, mango proved hard to pin down. one man falls down trying to save her. it's a she, eric. mango was not hurt. she's now back with her owners. i guess we have to say good girl. >> what a dog tale. >> let's start things off by telling but the governor of the great state of new jersey, chris christie in the 6:00 hour last night pacific time, he was there at the ronald reagan library out in california. nancy reagan in the front row. and, you know, everybody wanted to see whether or not he would tip his hand, whether or not he would run for the presidency of the united states and last night, listen to this, he goes right after the president of the united states and in fact, he sounds like he's running! >> thank you very much. president obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve re-election. this is not a leadership style. this is a re-election strategy. telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others. trying to cynically convince those who are suffering that the american economic pie is no longer a growing one that can provide more prosperity for all who work hard insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the american dream. that may turn out to be good re-election strategy, mr. president, but it is a demoralizing message for america. >> pretty strong stuff, although i think i'm going to take steve to task, he's not running for president. >> i said he sounded like he was running for president. >> just a sliver open, a little sliver open. >> you're right. >> look at this answer, an audience member, several urged him and he left the door open this much. >> i really implore you as a citizen of this country to please, sir, to reconsider. >> i hear exactly what you're saying and i feel the passion with which you say it. and it touches me. because i can tell you, i'm just a kid from jersey who feels like i'm the luckiest guy in the world to have the opportunity that i have to be the governor of my state. i thank you for what you're saying and i take it in and i'm listening to every word of it and feeling it, too. >> so he avoids a direct answer. but he said earlier in the day to a group of donors out there in california, he said he was not running although "the new york times" says he's reconsidering, chris christie's brother todd says he's not running and the former governor of new jersey says he's giving it lots of thought. >> i wonder why he's doing it. he sounds very presidential. sounds great saying all the right things and taking shots at president obama for, you know, all the policies that aren't working, yet then he'll say i'm not ready. the problem is not saying no, chris christie said no. he said if i have -- >> a million times. >> the problem saying he's not ready. that could come to be a problem if he does change his mind and decide to run. i'm sure the left was going to say or obama administration was going to say look, you yourself said you're not ready. how can you elect a president who is not ready? >> i don't know if the obama administration would want to bring that story line back up because that was the storyline about their own person in obama and not -- and i see what you're saying but i'm not so sure they would want to use that in an attack ad against chris christie. it's kind of insulting to the other republican candidates to have so many people urging christie because it also plays into the democrats' hands because it's making it seem like the republicans within their own party don't like the candidates who are currently standing on the stage. if you're -- if you're part of the g.o.p., that must be concerning. that must be a concerning aspect to you. >> one other person not on the stage yet and a lot of people wondering whether or not former governor sarah palin is going to run, she's coming up against a deadline. she said she'd let people know by the end of october. she was on greta last night and addressed this. listen. >> through my process of decision making with my family and with my close friends as to whether i should throw my name in the hat for the g.o.p. nomination or not for 2012, is a title worth it? does a title shackle a person? are they someone like me who is a maverick. i do go rogue and i call it like i see it and i don't mind stirring it up in order to get people to think and debate aggressively and to find solutions to the problems that our country is facing. somebody like me, is a title and a campaign too shackling? does that prohibit me from being out there, out of a box, not allowing handers to shape me and to force my message to be what donors or what contributors or what political pundits want it to be. does a title take away my freedom to call it like i see it and to affect positive change that we need in this country? that's the biggest contemplation piece in my process. >> so she's in the midst of her process. >> see, and i think she knows. i mean, come on. >> of course. >> you know. >> she's not running. >> again, it's a disservice, i think, to the republican party to not come out and say emphatically, it is at this point. sarah palin knows if she's running or not. what's the point in not tell the american people? >> she wants to play the game. >> i think that's kind of a disservice in a way to the republican party. you have nine or 10 candidates who said they are going to run and it's about time if you believe in the republican side of things, you have to get down to business and get something done so i don't know. i just would rather have them all be emphatic and say i'm in or i'm out. >> i think they're -- my personal opinion is they've been waiting to see what's going on with the approval ratings of perry and romney and they stayed fairly high even though, you know, perry -- >> get in late. >> yeah, you can get in late but they're now pushing the envelope. now they only have a couple of weeks before they have to decide where they would lose delegates, if they were voted and couldn't get the delegates in some states. >> are they looking at the polls? the recent polls, amongst republicans show that 72% of republicans do not want sarah palin to get into the race. so maybe they're looking at the polls as well. >> plus, you got to come up against the calendar just politically, if she wants to be on the ballot in florida, she has to know by the last day of october. if you're in south carolina you have to know by the first day of november. >> two strong g.o.p. candidates, sarah palin and chris christie who haven't announced, are they both thinking about 2016? if they're both thinking i'm not going to run now, let's go tore 2016, what a feel thatield that to be, christie, palin, marco rubio. >> unless a republican wins in 2012. and by the way, we should mention that chris christie had all those speeches planned a long time ago this week. it's not as if he decided to go out to the reagan library and make everyone start to think he was running for president again. apparently, these have been on his docket for a long period of time. >> forget about 2016. let's talk about 2012 and president obama has some trouble because big business is in a very public way right now turning on the president. the guy who is the ceo of coke, he talked to "the financial times" and essentially what he said was, you know what united states? it's easier and better, more lucrative to do business in china than in the 50 connected states. listen. >> if you talk about an american corporation competing in the world today with its chinese, with its russian, with its european, with its japanese count count counterparts, of course we're at an advantage. we'll go ahead and make an investment in malaysia and we play 20 plus percent, 22% tax. after we make a profit, i believe the u.s. owes itself to create an architect of 21st century tax policy for both individuals as well as for businesses. >> yes. and he goes on and says in the -- in the west, we're forgetting what really worked 20 years ago. >> yeah, this is really very important. i think we -- if he's not saying i like herman cain's 9, 9, 9 plan, he probably is saying it and he doesn't realize he's saying it. here he is, president of one of the biggest companies on the planet telling us our corporate tax structure is too high. by the way, we were number two in the developed world. we're now number one, the highest corporate tax rates in the world, japan just dropped their rates so we're now one. so he's saying number one, our rates are high. number two, he's also said, it's too expensive to bring the money back. so if he earns $4 billion in china and russia, to bring it back he has to pay a 35% tax rate. that's insane. that number should be zero. bring it back here. you've paid taxes on that somewhere else. bring it back here. or stay there if you don't allow that number to be zero. back. stimulate the economy a little bit. >> that would be a simple change. as of yet, it hasn't happened yet. not the only business person, high profile that has a thing or two to say. charles schwabb, he says every job requires an entrepreneur. here's his quote from a wealthy journal editorial, the simple fact that every business in america was started by an entrepreneur whether it's ford motor company, google or your local dry cleaner. every single job, that entrepreneur creates, requires an investment and at its core, investing requires confidence. >> somebody else, ted leonis, the owner of the washington capitals, washington wizards, wnba's washington mistics and owns the verizon center in downtown washington, d.c. he comes from the family where the dad was a waiter and the mother worked as well. he says, mr. president, enough with the class warfare. just stop it. it's not working. it's not good for america. >> yeah, and very quickly, chris christie in that speech from the reagan library said, you know, the pie can get bigger. instead of looking at the pie being the same size and reaching into the pockets of the people who have created jobs and been successful to help out the ones that haven't, make the pie bigger and it's better for everybody. >> hmmm, pie. >> lots to discuss today. here's what's coming up on "fox & friends." terrorists, we have to worry about that, too. friends in pakistan who let them hide. so why does pakistan have friends in washington who cut them checks? that's next. >> plus a stunning message from michael jackson. >> yep, that was michael jackson speaking himself. a drugged out michael jackson that is. will this close the book on his doctor? 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"to the average onlooker, such bluster from a country with an economy about the size of romania's may be baffling to understand it, one has to see how pakistan's ruling elite have come to view their country as the geopolitical equivalent of a giant bank that's too big to fail." joining us now is terrorism expert analyst and author of the book, "mastermind" richard mineter. thanks for joining us. pakistan, too big to fail or too important to cut off aid? >> that's certainly been the conventional wisdom in washington but i think people are reassessing that. the taxpayers gave about $3.4 billion a year to pakistan and a lot of it is military aid not designed to fight terrorists at all such as anti-submarine equipment, anti-aircraft equipment and so on, really designed against india which is another ally of the united states. and then you've got all these disturbing links to terrorist groups. after the assault of the u.s. embassy on september 13th when killed nearly 25 people and wounded many more, we found the u.s. intelligence found cell phones on the bodies of the attackers that directly linked them to the haqqani network but in the same cell phones, they found the pakistan spy agency, the isi. so these guys not only are being directed by the isi, maybe not ordered like a military unit but certainly being encouraged and communicated with by a pakistan spy agency and they have their home phone numbers so it's very -- it's a very disturbing thing and it's time to get tough. >> so isn't it a simple case of the fact that the united states needs pakistan, though, we need our roads to be able to get our stuff into afghanistan so as long as we have men and women serving our country in that country, we're going to have to continue to play this game? >> well, i don't think the u.s. military and the obama administration have gotten smart. through years ago, 80% of our nonlethal supplies going into afghanistan, mostly food and medicine had to move along pakistan's roads. that's down now to 50% and should go lower. we have to break this dependence on the ports of karachi and pakistan and the roads linking into afghanistan as a way of supplying our troops there and that will probably happen as we wind down in afghanistan. but the big thing is, why is pakistan working so closely with so many of america's enemies including al-qaida? bin laden was hiding in the country in 2005. but it's now emerged he was in pakistan as he remember as 2003 living in another suburb of the capital of that country. >> why do you think pakistan is aligning itself with the terrorists? >> we have to understand that when the country is small but has great ambitions like pakistan, it uses terrorism as a foreign policy tool. it can't possibly take on an army as big as india's let alone the united states but it can use third party groups that can carry out attacks like the one on the u.s. embassy a few weeks ago or the truck bombing at the nato headquarters a few days before that. it wasn't us. they send the signal, of course it was, do what we say or you'll have more truck bombings. we have to teach them terrorism is simply not acceptable and there are ways we can do that. one of the ways they've become reliable on is payments from at&t. remember, at&t is their only link by using phone lines to the outside world both satellite and land line and payments are made from at&t to pakistan on a monthly basis. those payments could be held up if pakistan doesn't comply. there's a lot of leverage that the american government has to get creative. we don't have to bomb them to change their policy. >> thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> thanks, eric. >> coming up on the show, is rick perry the new fred thompson? our next guest says yes and that could spell big trouble for perry. >> plus the diplomat slugfest, so much for peace. a diplomatic slugfest at the u.n. check it out. ♪ [ male announcer ] escape convention. ♪ escape definition. ♪ escape compromise. ♪ experience the most fuel-efficient luxury car available. ♪ the 42 mile per gallon ct hybrid from lexus. ♪ break free of the status quo. ♪ gives you a 50% annual bonus! so you earn 50% more cash. according to research, everybody likes more cash. well, almost everybody... ♪ would you like 50% more cash? no! but it's more money. 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[ giggles ] >> all right. some quick headlines. lightning is the likely cause of a 200 acre wildfire burning in texas, fire officials believe it hit near dripping springs, where the film "the alamo" was shot in 2003. flames have destroyed at least six structures from the movie and so much for diplomacy, turkish diplomats got into a brawl with u.n. security gaushdz. they were upset after being escorted to the wrong floor and then not allowed to enter. several guards were bruised up. the diplomats questioned and were not charged. it's shawn's birthday over here, steve, you're missing the cake down here. >> very nice. happy birthday to sean. get back to work, both of you. >> all right. >> all right. we're off to the races! ladies and gentlemen, it's time for our political derby and the race for the g.o.p. nomination is on so where do the candidates stack up in the rankings this week? jason wright, the editor of politicalderby.com and "new york times" best selling author and a new book called "the wedding letters." he joins us from salt lake city. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. >> let's take a look at first three leading horses. you've got in the first position rick perry followed by romney and then mr. paul as well. now, let's start with perry, perry is doing what this week? >> i think he continues to fade. we talked two weeks ago about how this gap with romney was getting smaller and smaller and every time rick perry shows up at a debate, he does himself a disservice, maybe he ought to call in sick or something. i mean, he is fading in these debates. it reminds me a little bit of fred thompson. by the end of the debates, he looks older than ron paul. seriously, if you're watching this morning, i'm sure you are because it's "fox & friends", if you call me, i will personally buy you a bag of gummy bears and case of redbull. you've got to do better in these debates. >> yeah, call me. you just said mitt romney is closing the gap. all he has to do is make sure he doesn't fall down, doesn't trip and he'll do ok? >> i think that that is the romney team strategy is just keep on running this race down the tracks at the same speed and the other horses are going to hoof themselves to death and i think he believes that strategy wins the nomination. >> ok. and ron paul, as you just mentioned is still in the top tier. let's take a look at the second tier candidates and you've got surging, mr. cain as you can see in the center, he's surging followed by newt and michelle bachmann as well. >> all the action, i think, right now and all the interesting story lines are in this middle pack as herman cain had what a great run in florida. i mean, a lot of folks felt like he won the debate. obviously, he won the straw poll. the question for herman cain is this, what can he do differently than michelle bachmann who had a big surge and faded, donald trump who had a surge when he flirted with the race and faded or as we said, a guy like fred thompson who was such a darling for just 15 minutes and he faded. what can herman cain do differently? what has he learned from their mistakes? >> you say newt gingrich is rising and he's had a couple of good debates but michelle bachmann is fading fast? >> oh, man. michelle bachmann, are you in the witness protection program? seriously, where are you in the polls right now? she's getting dangerously close to the gary johnson line. i mean, that's just not funny. i mean, she's in a lot of trouble right now. i mean, she's at, what, 4%, i think, in the most recent polling. that's bad, bad news for michelle bachmann. i think she's toast. >> so even though he's in fourth place, it seems like you're saying that herman cain is the big winner this week. >> he's the horse to watch, ladies and gentlemen. we have got to watch this guy and see if he can get in front of ron paul. i think he's going to do it. >> jason wright, brand new book out today called "wedding letters" check it out. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. thank you, steve. have a great day. >> you bet. you as well. on this wednesday morning, 28 minutes after the top of the hour, a bombshell recording from michael jackson himself. >> oh, man! the king of pop so strung out, high on drugs, you can hardly understand what he's saying. what this means for his doctor who is on trial right now and he's on the f.b.i.'s most wanted list so how in the world did this mexican drug lord get american birth certificates for his children? good question. but first, happy birth take to hillary duff. the actress and pop star turns 24. happy birthday, hillary. endless shrimp is ourn at red lobster. there's so many choices. the guests love it. 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>> this was built in connecticut which is where the main factory is and it's on its way to legoland, florida in central florida. >> people have been walking past our world headquarters and they've got to stop. and get up real close to this so you can see it. these are actual lego blocks, aren't they? >> absolutely, yeah. these are lego bricks that you can buy anywhere at any store. they're all glued together and this will be the centerpiece of our driving school. >> why? why, adrian? why did you do this? >> we thought it was nice leading up to the opening of the park and we've driven the car down in the trailer that you see and then a final resting place will be in the theme park next to our driving school. >> now, you just broke news right there. you mentioned the theme park is opening. a lot of people don't realize but florida will have a legoland like california on the 15th day of october, right? >> absolutely. we open a brand new theme park, largest legoland theme park in the world and all the models opening just for that day. >> all right. very good. ted, can you swing around? folks, if you see that trailer with the see-through windows you'll be able to take a look at the brand new legoland ford explorer as it makes its trip down to legoland, florida. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. >> can't really drive that, could you? >> no, you can't jump in it. >> have lego people or gumby behind the wheel. take a look. i mentioned it was misting here and we have a little bit of rain as we look at the map coast to coast throughout the northeast and portions of the great lakes, a little bit of rain overnight in texas and believe me, they will take it down along the rio grande valley. next map shows you what the current temperatures are as you head out the door in new york city right now, it is almost 70 degrees. we got about the same in raleigh-durham, portions of the ohio valley. right now, temperatures in the 50's. same as the northern plains. 60's and 70's down south and the day ahead on this wednesday, let's take a look at the daytime highs. it's going to be a hot one in dallas-ft. worth. approaching but not breaking the century mark. they will out in phoenix, 103 and meanwhile, 70 degrees today in new york. that's a quick look at the fox travelcast now, let's go back inside to eric and gretchen with a look at the news. >> thank you, steven. now to your headlines. kill or killers still on the loose in indiana, police confirm they have no suspects in the gruesome murders of five people outside of indianapolis on sunday and for the first time, officers say it appears the killer is not among the dead. four of the victims are members of the same family, cops rushed to the murder scene after finding a 4-year-old girl wandering down the road. she was the only one to escape the crime scene. gretch? >> wow. he's one of the f.b.i.'s most wanted criminals so how does this ruthless mexican drug lord become the proud papa of two american kids? it's a story that's raising a lot of eyebrows this morning. his wife crossed freely into the united states and gave birth to twins at a hospital near los angeles. the reason -- she's an american citizen. so now she's headed back to mexico with two sons with american birth certificates. eric? >> a college student in new york facing criminal charges after taking the s.a.t.'s for high school students. he allegedly charged $2500 per student to take the exam. at least six of those high school students all from great neck, long island, are under arrest. no word yet on what kind of punishment all of them may face. gretch? >> end of a television era. andy rooney announcing that he's leaving "60 minutes" at the end of this week. rooney known for his weekly opinion features on everything to politics to modern day appliances. >> i look around my desk and think about the tools that i use throughout the day. most intrusive thing on my desk is this telephone. i get a lot of calls i don't want. i wish the telephone had a different sound when it was someone you don't want to talk to. >> you can program phones to do just that, right? rooney, 92 years old, he'll say good-bye this sunday on what will be his 1,097th appearance. wow, congratulations for such a long run. i think we're going to do a little sports and you're going to do it. >> the yankees are already in, but the boston red sox and the tampa bay rays won their respective games last night putting them in a dead heat for the wild card. if both teams win tonight, they'll have to play each other in a one-game playoff tomorrow afternoon. and nfl commissioner roger good good goodell says let it snow a little bit. check out the official logo for super bowl 48, the league is playing off the new york and new jersey unpredictable winter weather. both states somehow both states will be hosting the game in 2014 at the meadowlands complex in new jersey. >> i love that logo. very creative. >> very nice. >> all right. let's talk a little bit about this. the manslaughter trial of dr. conrad murray got started out in california yesterday. and it was a blockbuster because we heard from michael jackson beyond the grave. apparently, forensic experts took dr. murray's iphone and they were able to recover a file, apparently he had ditched it. he had tried to erase it, but they could find it. it was of michael jackson himself. here he is, it's hard to understand him. we'll put the words on the screen. michael jackson, six weeks before he died. >> they showed a picture of a dead michael jackson on a gurney. >> that picture doesn't do anything compared to listening to that. i was in the car yesterday. if you don't look at the words and you just listen to the audio, i pulled over on the side of the road. i was so alarmed listening to that. my goodness, how could you not think this guy had a major drug problem and the other thing is that's how michael jackson's real voice, that's his voice! that's his voice, that low voice. >> so you're saying that the doctor has no -- look at, how could you administer propofol to a guy in this kind of shape. why are you taking a videotape that for? why was he videotaping michael jackson in that state? >> apparently, that's a small snippet that the jurors are going to play the entire thing later on. >> there's more? >> this guy was -- dr. murray was being paid $150,000 a month to be the concert doctor and so prosecutors say, you know, he gave him whatever he wanted. prosecutors also say, apparently, he died of that propofol but murray's attorneys say michael jackson killed himself. he popped eight pills of something called lorazpam which are very powerful tranquilizers and then gave himself what proved to be a shot of propofol that did kill him so fast, he didn't even close his eyes. >> that's their theory. i don't know if you saw the documentary that came out after michael jackson died about, as he was getting ready to go back out on tour, that's around the same -- it's an amazing documentary, by the way, and that was around the same time that he got drugged out, and he's up there dancing and singing and knowing all the words. i don't know -- i don't understand the life of a drug addict like that but my goodness, that tape is alarming. >> if convicted, i understand he could face four years in jail. all right. meanwhile, straight ahead, after more than a decade protecting presidents as a secret service agent, he's now running against the policies of his most recent boss, president obama, he's going to join us to tell us why. >> and have you seen the new commercial? 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>> how was buying american important to you? >> i wasn't going to buy another car bailed out by our government. i was going to buy from a manufacturer that's standing on their own, win, lose or draw, that's what america is about is taking the chance to succeed and understanding when you fail that you got to pick yourself up and go back to work. ford is that company for me. >> wow. but ford has pulled its ad. after reportedly receiving pressure from the white house. >> charlie gasparino from the fox business network joins us live. what do you think? >> great ad. >> great ad. >> it's kind of like a call you get from don corleone, all of a sudden, a guy from the government -- >> do you believe that's -- the detroit free press is saying that that's what happened. do you believe that a private company would listen to the white house and pull an ad? >> yes, you know, let's face it, the government is huge. it regulates them on a lot of things, even if they didn't take bailout money, they're regulated by the e.p.a. and god knows what else. when government gets this big, it gets this powerful and it has the power to pull ads, this is not unprecedented. i covered state and local governments for years. if state government didn't like something that a business was doing, call them up. particularly a wall street firm that needs to underwrite bond business from that state government, they would do exactly what the governor's office said so this happens all the time. >> see it connected to the president's re-election campaign, you know, the economy is still in the toilet and then to be reminded of the bailout that a lot of people didn't like. >> especially michigan. michigan is a state up for grabs theoretically, you know, and that commercial resonates for me. >> i watch that commercial. >> i actually walked through the ford plant in michigan in -- with the ceo of ford and said why don't you run an ad about, you know, you didn't take the bailout. >> you're the reason. >> this is your idea! >> he said no, the american people understand that. literally said that a year and a half ago. here we are a year and a half forward and they put this ad together, charlie, they put this ad together, there's no doubt that they had the intention of running this ad. you don't put the ad together, put it out there and yank it quickly unless they get pressure from somebody. >> clearly, i would like to know who pressured them. that person should be pressured to resign. this takes it a little too far. we're in the middle of -- we're ramping up to the election, clearly they don't want this -- anything to prevent the president from losing -- losing michigan. michigan is a key state. if the republicans win that state, think about that, that's not even a battleground state. >> the interesting thing is he did support the bailouts for the other companies. i want to read a statement from ford. the ad has unscripted comments from a ford owner and is part of a series featuring customers telling their stories and views about fords and other products. we supported emergency government support for our competitors, as i just said, in 2008 and 2009 and continue to support the decisions we made. ad has stopped running as part of its previously planned rotation. >> when big businesses take government bailout money, whether it's wall street, whatever, guess what, they become part of government. and that's the problem they have here. >> charlie, always a pleasure. thanks for getting up here -- >> how much money do you make in a imagine your credit card balance being seven times that. our government doesn't think that's a problem but regular americans might. >> and he's been protecting presidents for more than a decade but now daniel vongino is taking time off to run against the policies of his most recent boss, president obama and he is here live. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. liberty mutual auto insurance. listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us. >> he's been protecting presidents for more than a decade as a secret service agent but now daniel bongino is taking time off to run against the policies of his most recent boss, president obama. why? well, let's ask the man himself. he joins me right now. good to see you. you are trying to become the g.o.p. candidate for senate in maryland. >> that's right. that's right. >> you most recently protected the president of the united states whose policies, most of them you don't agree with. >> yeah, he was a wonderful guy and enjoyed my experience with the secret service and best 12 years of my life but it's a simple political ideological difference, again, it's not a personal thing to the president. he was wonderful to me. i was on the detail for president bush and president obama and i decided this was my way to make a difference. >> is it a straight line connection between being a secret service agent and then running for office? in other words, what did you learn on that job that helps you get into politics? >> it's forced the leadership from day one. that job is high stress, high octane all the time, and they force leadership on you. they don't tolerate fools. i said that on "fox & friends" weekend about three months ago and i meant it. if you don't make it, you're broken pretty quickly. >> let's talk about the president's jobs bill. you like it? >> i call it the tax bill, the jobs bill, i don't know what jobs are going to come out of it. only thing guaranteed out of that bill is taxes, not jobs. it does nothing for jobs that i see. how does taking money from person a, giving it to the government and taking 10% to 15% in bureaucratic costs and giving it to person b cost a job. i don't understand it. >> you might have a personal connection to it. you are a small business owner. how do you believe the president's job plan will help or hurt small businesses? >> taking money out of private entrepreneurs' pockets, again, funneling it through the bureaucratic mechanism and then giving it back, how does that create jobs? how does it expand the pie? it doesn't, it's a failed, failed ideology. it's failed over and over again. a government centric economy will not work. we have to back away from that. it will not work. even president obama understands that. >> it's very interesting. he said the jobs bill to him was somewhat confusing. i want to move on to immigration because you have a personal story with this. your wife is from colombia and she became a u.s. citizen the legal way. what do you make of the debate that we've been hearing, rick perry vs. the other candidates on the dream act specific salls? >> we have that on our ballot, the great state of maryland next year in my election. it's not an issue about immigration. it's an issue about the law. we have every club gets it, even kids get this, right, they put the club rules up. even 5-year-olds. we have rules. is citizenship worth something or is it not? well, it is worth something. it's worth fighting for. my grandfather fought in world war ii. my uncle died in vietnam. he got the bronze star with a v valor. people fought and died for this country. it's worth something. this is our club. all we're asking, just follow the rules my wife did. it's not complicated. it was a touching moment to watch her pledge allegiance to our flag. >> before i let you go, who are you supporting right now in the g.o.p. presidential race? >> i like a lot of the candidates. i like herman cain's nine, nine, nine plan and i like rick perry's record on jobs. i like ron paul on sound money, great ideas. we're still shopping. >> daniel bongino has not made his decision on that. he's made his decision to run for office in maryland. thanks for being my best today. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> coming up on the show, he was accused of sexually assaulting a 13-year-old, even served prison time. now that he's out, someone thought it would be a good idea to give him an award. the governor of new jersey swears he's not running for prez. if that's true, why did he sound so presidential in last night's speech? 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a tough iranian naval officer says the middle eastern country plans to station ships off the atlantic coast. no timeline of when the ships would depart or arrive. iran didn't say what type of ships they're going to deploy. u.s. defense department officials have not commented on the situation. jared loughner will be back in court for the first time since his outburst during a may competency hearing. a judge will decide if the tucson shooting rampage suspect should spend eight more months in psychological treatment. he was found mentally unfit four months ago. he pleaded not guilty in the january 8th shootings that killed six people and wounded 13 others including congresswoman gabriel gabrielle giffords. a fugitive caught after 40 years on the run. he escaped to new jersey prison and hijacked a plane to algeria finally captured after these years in portugal. the break in the case -- police matched his fingerprints to an i.d. card, i guess that is. right now, 68 years old, escaped to africa after hijacking a delta airlines flight and getting a million dollars ransom. you see that guy there on the tarmac in a swimsuit? you're saying to yourself why would we be in a swimsuit with his hands up? that hijacker demanded that f.b.i. agents wear only bathing suits when they brought him the money. now he's awaiting extradition back to the united states. a voice from the grave at the trial of dr. conrad murray. prosecutors played a message michael jackson left on dr. murray's cell phone about a month before he died. you're not going to believe this is michael jackson slurring his words. >> i don't know how anyone transcribed that. murray cried during opening statements at his manslaughter trial. his lawyers said jackson gave himself the deadly dose of the painkiller propofol and other drugs. jackson's family arrived together wearing black. jackson's two older children on the list of potential witnesses and those are your headlines. >> let's talk about another story making headlines this morning out in california. simi valley, california, chris christie, the governor of the great state of new jersey was out at the ronald reagan library and museum. he gave a 15 minute speech and that was followed by a q&a with the audience. and somebody had to ask this question -- so this lady did. >> i really implore you to as a citizen of this country to please, sir, to reconsider. >> a hear exactly what you're saying and i feel the passion with which you say it. and it touches me. because i could tell you, i'm just a kid from jersey who feels like i'm the luckiest guy in the world to have the opportunity that i have to be the governor of my state. i thank you for what you're saying. and i take it in and i'm listening to every word of it and feeling it, too. >> but he did not answer her directly. >> no. >> very interestingly, though, you know, he took the shot at obama's economic policies, you know, we should be going in different direction but he also took a shot at rick perry saying in my state, i wouldn't offer in state tuition for illegals and at the reagan library, ronald reagan said don't take -- you know, shoot, don't fire inside your own tent. >> i thought that was very interesting, though, because every single republican candidate wants chris christie's endorsement and that said to me that potentially governor perry would not get governor christie's endorsement. i thought that was the highlight of the whole night. whether or not it was, you know, appropriate, i'm not sure. but it sure made people listen. >> sure. what he said was it was not heartless to not give new jersey that. but when you listen to the speech itself and it was on during the sean hannity program last night. keep in mind, he did not answer whether or not -- directly, he's going to run for president. and when you listen to his speech, which was called "real american exceptionalism" he sure sounded like he was running for president because he went after the current occupant of the oval office. >> in new jersey, we've done this and more because the executive branch has not sat by and waited for others to go first to suggest solutions to our state's most difficult problems. being mayor, being a governor. being a president, means leading by taking risks on the most important issues of the day. we watch a president who once talked about the courage of his convictions but still has yet found the courage to lead. we watch a congress at war with itself because they're unwilling to leave campaign style politics at the capitol's door. >> uh-huh. >> all right and then to follow that, there's an interesting gallup poll that's come out. should politicians compromise? that seems to be the buzz word on capitol hill. been a buzz word there for a long time. should they compromise? well, in 2010, 47% of the respond he wants said yep. in 2011, 51% say yes. he had an interesting situation. he does in new jersey because he's a republican governor in a blue state. and, you know, the same situation, mitt romney found himself in as governor of massachusetts. to a certain extent, you don't get anything done unless you do a little compromise. >> very tough on the unions. that's been his claim to fame. taken the teachers union on full square. if you're driving down the new jersey turnpike, you see pictures of chris christie, horrible pictures saying hey, this guy is taking jobs away from teachers. but that is really where he distinguishes himself from the others saying, you know, look at scott walker in wisconsin. >> in the "new york times," they talk about how chris christie is getting all kinds of calls from big men and big women and some are asking how can i get in on the ground floor and the colleagues respond there is no ground floor. >> he must be. he's raising money. >> he's not going to run. >> go back to the string of comments where i said i'm not going to run, i don't think he's going to run, folks. but is sarah palin going to run? she knows her decision has to come soon. there are specific deadlines aside from needing to put together a team and raising all that cash that eric is talking about. so she was on greta's show last night. see if you can tell whether or not she's going to run. >> through my process of decision making with my family and with my close friends as to whether i should throw my name in the hat for the g.o.p. nomination or not for 2012 is a title worth it? does a title shackle a person? are they, someone like me, a maverick, you know, i do go rogue and i call it like i see it and i don't mind stirring it up to get people to think and debate aggressively and to find slup solutions to the problems that our country is facing, someone like me, is a title and a campaign too shackling? >> she says apparently she will decide by the end of october whether or not she's going to run because there are some deadlines, filing deadline for florida is october 31st and for south carolina is november 1st. >> all right. so we'll know within the next month or so. all right. should big business or is big business, i should say, turning now on the president? you have a lot of high profile ceo's who are now commenting on the situation about creating jobs, maybe they feel under pressure to explain now why they are not providing more jobs. like the ceo of coca-cola. listen to this. >> if you talk about an american corporation competing in the world today with its chinese, with its russian, with its european, with its japanese counterparts, of course we're at a disadvantage. make an investment in malaysia and we pay 22% tax after we make a profit, i believe the u.s. owes itself to create an architect of 21st century tax policy for both individuals as well as for businesses. >> ok. so there you got the guy who runs coke saying in the entire article that apparently china is doing a better job wooing business than the united states. and then you've got the guy who invented bet, black entertainment television, robert johnson, sold it eventually to viacom for $3 billion, keep in mind, big supporter of democrat candidates in 2008, here he is taking a shot at congress and our president. >> how do you create jobs in this country? >> i don't think we have the leadership either in the white house or the congress and until both parties agree that the goal is to rebuild the american economy to affect the 21st century and a global environment, we're going to be stuck. and it's -- it's a little bit frightening from the standpoint of a business person and particularly an african-american business person. >> and that's interesting because he's also a chicago african-american business person. >> obama also did an interview on bet on monday night and the interviewer asked him, you know, what happens when a 16-year-old kid from chicago, no father, mom working hard, can't find a job and what do you do, mr. obama? how do you answer him? and obama came back and basically painted a picture, well, it's been bad for a long time and that 16-year-old kid would understand it saying in essence, we inherited a bad economy putting the blame back there so the question here is with the interview monday night, with that question being -- a tough question being posed to the president, and then the founder, the gentleman from bet saying there's no leadership in the white house, is the black vote splintered? is it moving away? i mean, there's 17% unemployment in the black community if you're under 25. you have -- you're out of a job to the tune of 50%. so at what point do the black votes say enough of this. it's not about black or white. it's about jobs. >> herman cain would hope your proposal is accurate. he thinks he can pick up a third of those votes. we have to move on and tell you what's coming up on the show. the mail always arrives but this postal worker took that creed a little too far. >> vehicle, though. >> stand here wobbling as we speak, yes. >> oh, my goodness are a postal worker busted delivering drunk. >> imagine your credit card balance being 7 times your annual salary. that's our government. that's what our government is doing so why is the tea party taking flak for pointing out that? that esteemed panel right there weighs in. wave, everybody, you're next on "fox & friends." 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[ junior ] ...and they've helped build my business. >> your news by the numbers. first, two years, that's how long roman polanski had to wait to pick up his lifetime achievement award. he couldn't claim it in 2009 because he was jailed for sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl. next, three years, that's how long it took to get this boeing dr dream liner off the ground. it's now in its new home in tokyo and lastly $10 million. that's how much money sony is expected to save when it stops providing 3d glasses at movie theaters next year. other major movie studios are expected to follow suit. meaning we have to buy our own 3d glasses. are you kidding me? >> already pay more for the 3d movies. >> exactly. >> our political panel of lloyd marcus, doug and alexis johnson back with us to pick which republican candidate they would vote off from the 2012 presidential field. all right, alexis, i'll start with you, who's got to go in your mind? >> do i have to pick? >> you only can do one today. >> i'm going to cheat a little bit. i'm going to say i think michelle bachmann is already, her rising star is actually falling back into -- back to the earth like a nasa satellite. so i'm going to choose rick perry, i think that his performance last week and his complete pandering and disconnect to the actual g.o.p. base has shown that he's probably not going to be the nominee. so time to let him go. >> the guy that's highest in the polls should get the boot. >> i think so. >> i think the person who is close to the lowest now, michelle bachmann should leave. she performed a function for the tea party for those on the right for a while but she's had a string of gaffes, gretchen and, i think she would do best to go back to minnesota. >> very interesting. lloyd, as a guy who is running up and forming the tea party, what do you think -->> i love michelle bachmann! john huntsman! >> that's your pick? >> yes, john huntsman! when john huntsman entered the race, he said that he would not attack obama. that's like getting into the ring with mike tyson and saying, i'm not going to hit him. john huntsman, wrong answer! you're outta here. >> viewers, let us know who you think, if anyone, should leave the stage just now. i want to get to another quick topic. lloyd, let me start with you on this. we've been discussing this week and last week maybe the president will start to lose the african-american vote. maxine waters, congresswoman has criticized him for not being more active in the african-american community. what are your feelings about that as an african-american who is a conservative? >> i pray to god that president obama loses the african-american vote. i think this man has been despicable driving a wedge down national race relations by calling the tea party movement racist. these people, i have been to well over 300 tea parties nationwide, these are people who love this country and they are not stupid and they're simply saying no to socialism. it has nothing to do with race and so for this man to say that the tea party movement is racist and have his minions say the tea party movement is racist is despicable and divisive and wrong for america. >> this election is going to be decided by intensity and the question is whether or not obama can actually gain the intensity he had in 2008 where young african-americans who had never voted before came out in record numbers. and i think that -- that he'll have some work to do there. i don't think african-americans are going to cross to the other side. i think they will be consistently loyal and supportive of the president and i think that's actually happening. >> i think alexis is right. intensity, enthusiasm is the issue. i don't think the tea party is racist. i don't think the president has said that himself. some democrats have said it, lloyd, but i don't think the president has said it but the issue is will there be energy and enthusiasm for the president? that's the big question. >> all right. to the three of you, thank you so much for your time. unfortunately, we're out of time. >> thanks. >> it was a great discussion. thanks so much. see you again. thanks for having me. maybe a hard worker but your boss won't promote you? dave ramsey says forget management, you can get ahead by yourself. he's here to answer your e-mails and you'll remember shaq dominated kilmeade in their game of b-ball. today, bolling gets a chance to redeem our reputation. he's out shooting live with dwayne wade. [ male announcer ] heard this one? listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us. delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it. >> take a look at your shot of the morning. it's a "fox & friends" exclusive. check out country singer ray stevens' new song written especially for president obama. >> ♪ mr. president we got record foreclosures folks are losing their homes the banks have gotten money but they won't make loans the taxes are bringing small businesses to their knees and we owe our souls to the red chinese mr. president mr. president what are you going to do ♪ >> you heard it here first. stevens is a multiplatinum recording artist and his latest song "mr. president" not even available on you tube yet. >> he's great and he's a big supporter and lover of the fox newschannel and we know he's watching right now. ray stevens got it right when he asked mr. president, what are you going to do? he's emphasizing the importance of doing something like setting a goal and time management, something personal finance expert dave ramsey who has been sitting right there very patiently in the box knows a lot about and joins us right now. he's the author of "entree leadership" and joins us live from nashville. good morning to you, sir. >> well, thanks, good morning, guys. >> great to have you. >> thank you. >> let's talk a little bit about this. you are talking about, you know, taking control of the situation and setting goals, right? >> absolutely. you know, goal setting is an old fashioned thing. most of us that have been to a sales seminar or been to a self-improvement seminar somewhere have learned how to do that, the very basics of it. but, you know, the trick is to do it in areas of our lives maybe where you didn't think about like career is kind of obvious one that you would do it, weight loss is an obvious one that you would do it. but set goals in every area of your life and you move forward and it touches synergy across the areas is pretty important. >> all right. so let's see if we can accomplish goals for some of our viewers. they e-mail questions to you like mary from dallas. dave, i never seem to be able to hit the personal and professional goals i set for myself. i consider myself a hard worker. what am i doing wrong? kind of a loaded question. take a stab at it, dave. >> well, there's obviously no exact answer to that. one of the things i find is i sometimes set goals and i don't make them specific enough. i don't give myself a time limit and don't put them in writing. so you need to do that and make sure they're in writing. write them down literally because we all think we're so smart, we can store it in our brain. write it down. that's kind of an almost juvenile thing to do but write it out very clearly, very specific with a time limit and then what that causes your brain to do is immediately start breaking it down into smaller tasks that will take you towards the larger task. >> all right. dave, eric from louisiana writes day dave, i started a business a few years ago and have had a -- have a couple employees now. i spend all day putting out fires. how am i going to get anything else done? do you have any suggestions? >> you know, when i first started my business, i felt like i was running a beauty parlor sometimes. it's unbelievable the drama that can happen. that's two things. one as a leader, as a young leader, a lot of times you think we get people on board to help us get the task done but you really have to be very intentional even in a small business about building the culture of the business. you may have put some wrong people on the bus. you may have to let some folks go. you got to get people in there who have an emotional maturity, who are going to be able to align themselves with your goals and we can talk about the culture of the company and move it forward even if there's only three of us. actually, especially if there's only three of us. >> that's right. because you're all in that together. let's talk a little bit about some of the guys on the bus as you put it. cindy from raleigh says dave, how do i get my employees to buy into the business plan i've laid out? i feel like i have to be a parent to them. >> well, you're always going to have a little bit of that feeling if you're taking your employees' best interest at heart. if you're trying your employees like people, if you're loving on them, i mean, in the sense that you're doing good things for them, you're, you know, lifting them up with recognition, you're building a culture of unity, you're always going to feel a little bit like that but you've really got to lay that carrot out in front of them in terms of that shared goal that we're talking about. and re-emphasize it over and over and over again. about the time i think i'm going to puke from repeating our company's goals, everybody hears it. >> hey, dave, we got to go but i got to play dwayne wade in basketball. what advice would you give me? outside game, shoot from three or take him to the hoop? >> i'm thinking i would probably avoid the embarrassment. >> that's right. in other words, cancel the segment. sorry, he's already in the studio. >> yep. >> all right, dave, thanks very much for your advice. i just tweeted -- >> have a great morning. >> i just tweeted that you're about to be humiliated. >> come on, gretchen, you have no confidence in me! >> he's an nba star, ok? all right. sorry. let me get off that -- >> wait! i'm -- just joking when i go -- >> game change. eric used to be a professional baseball player. you're going to play baseball, all right? >> oh, no. >> all right. >> talk to him, doocy. >> let's do some headlines before that match starts. we have to tell you about a killer or killers still on the loose in indiana. police confirm they have no suspect in the gruesome murders of five people outside of indianapolis on sunday. for the first time, officers say it appears the killer is not among the dead. four of the victims are members of the same family. cops rushed to the murder scene after finding a 4-year-old girl wandering down the road. she was the only one to escape the crime scene. >> all right. one of the f.b.i.'s most wanted criminals so how do this ruthless mexican drug lord become the proud papa of two american children? it's a story that's raising a lot of eyebrows this morning. his wife crossed freely into the u.s. and gave birth to twins at a hospital near l.a. the reason she's an american citizen so now she's headed back to mexico with two daughters with american birth certificates. >> wow. >> meanwhile, an amazing rescue for two seasoned firefighters. they battled these flames at a house near cleveland, ohio, while trying to get a mom and child to safety. one firefighter heard screams and decided to go into the house before backup arrived. he was able to get both the woman and her son out of the burning house. the woman suffered burns and remains in the hospital. no word on what caused that house to go up in smoke. >> he was supposed to be carrying the mail but he could barely carry himself. a u.s. postal worker busted for drunk driving after crashing into several cars. >> is the mail truck still out there? >> he's right here and he can barely walk. >> ok. >> stumble up the stairs. parked right against the front of my car here. >> he's out of the vehicle, though? >> he's standing here wobbling as we speak, yes. >> wobbling. oh, my gosh. actually, it's kind of funny but sad at the same time. police found a nearly empty bottle of brandy in the front seat and had to hold him up during his sobriety test. oh, my goodness, the driver now on emergency suspension. my goodness. >> no wonder i didn't get the light bill! all right. meanwhile, let's take a look and find out what kind of a day we've got in store. if you're down in washington, d.c., it is a great day. and look at that fog and and it looks foggy. actually, it is pouring, we understand, from our many capitol hill sources. rainy day there. where else is it raining? let's take a look at the map. as you can see throughout the northeast and new england back to the great states and portions of the ohio valley, rain overnight into this morning. and we have rain in the mid atlantic. a little action down in dixie land and some in texas. they will take it because it's been very, very dry as you know out there. meanwhile, the current readings, a lot of 40's and 50's across the northern half although if you're in new york city, you still have a warmish temperature, almost 70 degrees out at laguardia. same for raleigh durham, that area. temperatures in the 70's along the gulf coast. meanwhile, later on today, if you're in phoenix, it's going to be another hot one. 1103 will be the high there. the other extremes, well, in seattle, 66. we're going to have 69 in caribou, maine, new york city tops out at 70. about the same for cleveland. it will be 84 in memphis. about the same for kansas city and temperatures in the mid to upper 90's across much of the great state of texas. and that is your fox travelcast for this wet wednesday across parts of the northeast. >> if i said nine, nine, nine what would i be talking about? >> no, no, no. >> voters love, love, love herman cain's tax plan. >> the only way to fix our messed up tax code is to throw it out and put in a whole new system called the fair tax! >> but would his fair tax plan really work letting everybody from rich to poor pay 9%? >> all right. then i showed dwayne wade my crossover dribble. dwayne of the miami heat is here live. >> he's getting ready. he's putting some secret stuff on his shoes. >> is that legal? >> i don't know. >> probably illegal. >> first, our trivia question of the day, born on this day in 1934, this french super model starred in 47 films and recorded 80 songs during her career. this is easy, who is it? >> couple of quick headlines, the obama administration refusing to release video of bin laden after killed by u.s. commandos. a conservative group filed a freedom of information act lawsuit to have the images made public. the justice department says that could incite violence against americans and compromise the secret techniques used by the military and c.i.a. so much for diplomacy, turkish diplomats, watch this, they get into a brawl with united nations security guards. they were outraged after being escorted to the wrong floor and not being allowed to enter, the diplomats questioned but not charged. hopefully your basketball tournament won't turn into that, eric. >> no, it's not going to. by the way, here on "fox & friends", we like to get in the game and put our sports skills to the test. just check out this video, are you watching? brian taking on shaquille o'neal. wasn't so great. oh, boy. now, it's my turn. look at this. >> was that this? >> look at how out of breath he was. miami heat superstar dwayne wade is here to share his basketball tips and talk a little nba. we want to talk a little bit about the nba lockout. apparently, there's going to be renegotiations going on today. what are you hearing? what do you think? >> well, i mean, it's more talking going on and this is what we need. i think our fans appreciate it. just the owners and players, you know, start talking more and hopefully we can come to some sort of result. >> i think kobe was offered or there was discussion playing in europe, is that right? >> yeah, a lot of rumors. >> how about you? >> i had a couple of rumors early in the summer. it kind of went away. my focus is, i always dreamed of playing in the nba. our focus is to make sure we can get this deal done. obviously, guys have to open up their option and look a little bit if we're not playing and we'll see what happens. >> there's a rumor that you're, you know, going to host a superstar basketball game for charity. is that true? >> that is a rumor as well but, you know, it is something that we want to do. >> i'm hearing dwayne wade, i'm hearing lebron james. >> yeah, our friends -- >> i'm hearing a lot of big names. >> yeah, you know, we're trying to get it together and the biggest thing, like i said, it would be for charity. hopefully we can get the game together in miami and it could be something special for the community. >> show me a little bit about this new product you've got. >> first of all, you prayed for rain today so i couldn't get you on the basketball court. >> i was going to school him but gretchen made the line, dwayne minus five. this is straight up. this is even. >> look outside. you see the rain? but the show still goes on. got you. as we talk about basketball and right now, you know, this product right here, court grip, that comes out today in stores and all footlockers across the world, this right here is about moving the game forward and as we at the game stop with this product right here is something i've been working on. what it's about is pretty much, we can sit on the bench and take it, one swipe like that on both sides of my sneakers, something real easy like that. and if you know, once you do it -- >> sneakers? black socks, ridiculous. embarrassing. >> i do that and i wait 10 seconds and i get up and make sure i got my grip, you hear that? you hear them? you got on adidas and i got on jordan, so, you know. >> i don't have a shoe deal. >> what it's all about, this is something i've been working on. it's about full court grip. >> sticking now. >> it's about for dusty courts. >> any floor? or just wood or any floor? >> this is for any surface. this is for basketball players, athletes across the world. you know, played in rec league, by themselves. aau basketball, about to make a move? >> yeah, i'm going to make a move. you ready? >> you sure? >> they want you to take a look at that camera right there. did you see that? >> you didn't see that? >> did you see that? >> see the confidence he moved with? >> off the mike. >> ok. so any surface, anyone can find it anywhere. >> footlocker, ebay any surface, this is about helping us on the dirty courts that we're playing on. i play on some of the best courts in the nba. they're not all clean. >> you're staying healthy, right? >> i'm staying healthy. i got this. >> you heard him say over and over again we need a fair tax. >> only way to fix our messed up tax code is to throw it out and put in a whole new system called the fair tax. >> but herman cain's nine, nine, nine plan will it really work? everybody pays 9%. look at the ups and downs next and on this day in 1982, john cougar mellencamp had the number one hit "jack and diane." 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[ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. if your booking's not right, we'll help make it right, right away. from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone. >> gretchen: good morning, everyone. hope you're going to have a great wednesday. it's september 28. i'm gretchen carlson. the governor of new jersey swears he's not running for president. but he sure sounded presidential last night. listen to this. >> president obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve reelection. this is not a leadership style. this is a reelection strategy. >> gretchen: is the governor leaving the door open for a run? we'll report and you can decide. >> steve: close your eyes and try to figure out what this guy, michael jackson, is saying on this tape. really? that was michael jackson speaking. you probably couldn't tell because he was so whacked out on drugs. day two of his doctor's manslaughter trial about to get underway in l.a details straight ahead. >> eric: and talk about big government, the white house accused of putting the brakes on ford's car commercials, all because the company highlighted it didn't take any bailout money? "fox & friends" starts right now. >> steve: take a look right there at eric polling. he will be the most seen guy on fox news today because in addition to this program, sitting in for brian, he will also be doing -- >> eric: "the five" and other shows. >> gretchen: i thought you were going to say the most watched on youtube after duane wade slammed him. >> eric: i think i took it to the hoop. but you and duane, that was back, back and forth, i was like monkey in the middle. >> gretchen: you did a good ploy to get him to look at the camera. a military -- a saudi millionaire is accused of master minding the uss cole. prosecutors plan to pursue the death penalty when he's tried at gitmo. his defense lawyers say the case is tainted by delay, torture and destruction of evidence. 17 american sailors were killed and dozens more injured when al-qaeda bombed the uss cole. the warship was crippled after that attack. iranian military ships could be headed to u.s. waters. a top iranian naval officer says the middle eastern country plans to station ships just off the atlantic coast. no time line was given for when those ships would depart or arrive. iran didn't say what type of ship it would plan to deploy. u.s. defense department officials have not commented on the situation. a major toy recall now to tell you about this morning. more than 1.7 million toy workshop and tool sets from little tykes are being recalled because kids could choke on the toy nails. it happened twice. the recall is an expansion of a recall involving the same toy back in 2009. it involves 11 additional models sold nationwide from 1990 through 2004. for more information, head to littletykes.com. voice from the grave at the trial of dr. conrad murray. prosecutors played a message michael jackson left on dr. murray's cell phone about a month before he died. jackson, you won't believe that this is him. listen to his slurring of the words. >> gretchen: it's so disturbing. dr. murray cried during opening statements at his manslaughter trial. his lawyer said jackson gave himself the deadly dose of the painkiller, propothol and other drugug jackson's family arrived together. they were all wearing black. his two oldest children on the list of potential witnesses and coming up, fox legal analyst, peter johnson, jr., on the legal implications of those audio tapes. could they close the case against dr. conrad murray? those are your headlines this morning. >> steve: now let's talk a little bit about another story making news across the country. people are wondering whether or not chris christie is running for president. his brother, todd, says he's not running. but todd cain says he's giving it a lot of thought. so all eyes were on chris christie last night in the 9:00 o'clock hour eastern time here on the fox news channel during the hannity show where he gave a 15-minute speech at the ronald reagan library. would he make a big announcement? well, he sure sounded presidential in taking some shots at our current president. >> president obama prepares to divide our nation to achieve reelection. this is not a leadership style. this is a reelection strategy. telling those who are scared and struggling that the only way their lives can get better is to diminish the success of others, trying to cynically convince those who are suffering that the american economic pie is no longer a growing one that could provide more prosperity for all who work hard, insisting that we must tax and take and demonize those who have already achieved the american dream. that may turn out to be good reelection strategy, mr. president, but it is a demoralizing message for america. >> steve: zing. >> gretchen: it sounded very presidential. but then he was asked on several occasions whether or not he is going to run and he didn't implicitly say no, but he said, i urge you to go back and look at all the times that i've said i'm not going to run. then there was this exchange by a woman who actually got emotional in her question. >> i really implore you to, as a citizen of this country, to please, sir, to reconsider. [ applause ] >> i hear exactly what you're saying and i feel the passion with which you say it and it touches me 'cause i could tell you, i'm just a kid from jersey who feels like i'mhe luckiest guy in the world to have the opportunity that i have to be the governor of my state. i thank you for what you're saying and i take it in and i'm listening to every word of it and feeling it, too. >> eric: very good speech. >> gretchen: for somebody who is so not scripted, i have a feeling that that particular line was scripted. >> eric: the question? >> gretchen: no, his answer, that he's feeling it and he's taking it in, because it doesn't sound like a chris christie answer to me. usually he's really up front. he could have just said, thank you so much for the question, i'm not running for president. but he didn't say that. why not? >> eric: earlier in the speech and the sound bite we played where he talked about the pie, he really points out what president obama is doing. it's a share the prosperity, spread the wealth, joe the plumber moment all over and over again, redistribution of wealth, tax the job creator, the wealthy, pay for entitlement programs. it's not working. it's not creating the jobs they thought. >> steve: christy associate told the "new york times" he hasn't changed his mind, but the window to change his mind is not closed today. then when asked, well, when is the window going to close? he said in a couple of weeks because there are deadlines coming up when you've got to file things if you want to run. speaking of deadlines and when you got to file things, governor sarah palin certainly is probably thinking about that. she's got to decide whether or not she runs in the next couple of weeks if she wants to be on a number of states for their primaries. here she is talking about the struggle to decide last night on the greta van susteren program. >> through my process of decision making with my family and with my close friends as to whether i should throw my name in the hat for the gop nomination or not for 2012, is a title -- does a title shackle a person? are they someone like me, who is a maverick. i do go rogue and call it like i see it and i don't mind stirring it up to get people to think aggressively and find solutions that our country is facing, somebody like me is a title and is a campaign too shackling? >> gretchen: she's going to decide by the end of october. i don't know. i just think they should make decisions. i think she's just -- just do it. i think she knows. >> steve: giving us something to talk about. >> gretchen: but i don't know if it's so good for the republican party, the whole christy discussion and palin discussion because the other guys and gals standing on the stage, it's a tiny bit insulting to say they're not good enough, so we're kind of looking for somebody else. maybe that's the true feeling. but then these people should make a decision so we can move on and move towards 2012. >> steve: i think -- they've obviously decided. if you're going to run, you've got to have a ground game. right now she's got $1.4 million in the bank and she doesn't have staffs all across the country. so don't count on it. but then again, you never know. you know who has a better idea? ford. they have been running a terrific ad starring a real person by the name of chris talking about how he wasn't going to buy a car from another company that took bailout money. perhaps you've seen it. watch. >> was buying american important to you? >> i wasn't going to buy another car bailed out by our government. i was going to buy it from a manufacturer standing on their own, win, lose, or draw. that's what america is about is taking the chance to succeed and understanding when you fail that you got to pick yourself up and go back to work. ford is that company for me. >> eric: the only thing i question is what took ford so long to put out an ad like this? it's been, what, 2 1/2 years, almost three years that chrysler and gm were bailed out and still have $50 billion of our money. ford didn't take it. there are other incentives all along the road that all three of them took. but ford, again, i spoke to allen mulalley and he said the american people understand what we did but it doesn't hurt to remind them. >> gretchen: such an effective ad, i remember the first time i saw it, i stopped to repair -- rarely do you do that with a commercial. i did. i was like wow, that's really effective. now the story is that potentially they were pressured to take that ad off of the air waves. there is an article in some of the detroit newspapers saying that it could have been the white house pressuring them to take this commercial off because right now during reelection time, it's not good to be talking about how maybe the bailouts were not a good idea or bad idea. >> steve: so was ford pressured? here is what that motor company says. they say the ad has unscripted comments from a ford owner and is part of a series featuring customers telling their views about ford and our product. we supported emergency government support for our competitors in 2008, 09 and continue to support the decisions we made. the ad has stopped running -- listen to this -- as part of its previously planned rotation. so was there pressure from the white house? maybe, but the answer is we were going to at this it off the air. >> eric: they have to be very careful. >> steve: government interference, do you think? >> eric: saying we supported the help that the government gave gm and chrysler. remember, ford still uses united auto workers employees who own a big piece of gm and chrysler. and also ford relies on the part suppliers and there are a lot of unions involved. so they're playing a little bit of both sides of the fence, but again, they were the only car company in detroit that didn't take bailout. >> steve: still a good ad. >> gretchen: you bailed them out of bankruptcy, now gm workers are giving a bonus. how much they're getting. we'll tell you that coming up. >> steve: their bake sale created a lot of controversy. why? because they made white people pay more than minorities. the student behind the bake sale joins us live. stick around, folks. 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[ giggles ] >> gretchen: protests and pastries, lots of student activists showed up at berkeley yesterday as college republicans went ahead with a much talked about sat dirical bake sale that offered different prices for buyers based on their gender and race. the goal was to highlight the problem that they seemed to think we have with affirmative action. did the organizers make their point and how was it received? sean lewis, the president of berkeley college republicans joins us now. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: how did you come up with the idea to do this bake sale? >> as you know, this type of event has been done by other college campuses and the reason for holding this kind of event was that we saw on the berkeley campus a clearly one-sided conversation being had about this controversial topic. our student government decided to endorse sb 185 and sponsor a phone bank was encouraging the governor to sign the bill. so we were not -- no other views were being asked to be expressed on the issue, so we took it upon ourselves to create a dialogue and debate on campus regarding this issue. >> gretchen: so you put up this bake sale. if we can, show the prices that you charged because you charged different prices for different races. so if you're white or caucasian, it was two bucks. asians were 1.50, african-americans, .75. all women, i guess i should have been there, i only had to pay 25 cents to get mine. what was the reaction from the students? >> there was a mixed reaction and when we first uploaded the event, there was a lot of outrage. that's our point. the point was very specifically that treating people differently based on the color of their skin or their gender is discriminatory and so our pricing structure was meant to be discriminatory and to cause reaction from people and to make them think more critically about any policy that treats people differently based on the color of their skin. people who are upset and yesterday, people came up and argued with us. some people wanted to debate. in fact, our first customer was a uc-berkeley professor. she came up and asked for all of the female native american cupcakes because if you do quick math, that's .25 minus .25 and that's free. we told her that wasn't the point of the event. and we told her that there are no female american cupcakes. that was how it started. but as the day went on, once it got closer to lunch, more people were coming by because they just wanted a cupcake for lunch or for class. >> gretchen: so i understand that you could have charges filed against you. what would they be? >> so the student government is talking about filing charges against us for creating an uncomfortable campus climate for certain groups and if these charges are filed, we'll know by the end of today whether they are not. but if they are, they're talking about possible revocation of our student funding. if that happens, our club is fully prepared to respond with legal action because we feel that our event did not violate any student conduct codes, that we were upholding our first amendment right to free speech and assembly and that university of california-berkeley is home of the free speech movement and we strongly previous it shouldn't become the capital of political correctness. >> gretchen: all right. very interesting. sean lewis, the president of berkeley college republicans who held a very controversial bake sale on campus. thanks for your thoughts this morning. good to see you. >> thank you. >> gretchen: president obama promises to create millions of jobs. some of the nation's biggest business leaders, like the ceo of coca-cola, telling him to get out of the way. you will hear from them coming up. then should criminals be allowed to choose jesus over jail? trading time in a cell for time in a church? that story is next. there's only one bottle left ! i've got to tell susie ! the vending machine on elm is almost empty. i'm on it, boss. new pony sorry ! we are open for business. let's reroute greg to fresno. growing businesses use machine-to-machine technology from verizon wireless. susie ! the nding machine... already filled. cool bike. because the busine with the best technologyules. >> eric: quick headlines. union workers will conclude voting this morning with the contract with general motors. it gives workers a $5,000 signing bonus, profit sharing check, and other benies suspected to be approved. remember, gm took $50 billion in government bailout funds. and death row inmate in oregon begging to be executed and says, the quote, tree hugging lawyers need to stop trying to save his life. he's asking a judge to waive his appeals. he killed his ex-girlfriend's mother and a fellow inmate. if he gets his wish, his execution would be oregon's first in 14 years. steven? >> steve: thank you. how would you like to have a choice? go to jail or go to church? that particular choice being offered to criminals in one alabama city. lawmakers in minet, alabama are giving first time offenders the chance to go to church every sunday for a year instead of serving their sentences at a jail. you know what? our friends at the aclu says no way and now they are apparently suing. for a fair and balanced debate whether this is a good idea are retired new jersey police chief, steven rogers, and fox news religion contributor, father jonathan morris. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> steve: so you don't think this is a good idea. if somebody is given a choice, you want to go to church for a year or go to jail, you got a problem with it. >> first, thanks for promoting me to chief. >> steve: i know. >> my chief is watching. well, look, remember ronald reagan once said if the man is knocking at the door and you come to the door and he answers, i'm from the government, i'm here to help you, run. this is one of those incidents. i'm sure their heart is in the right direction. but we have to send a message to criminals that there is a price to pay for your criminal activity and that's jail. i'm all for -- believe me. i think church is great. but -- >> steve: i'm not talking about hardened criminals, we're talking about first-time criminals. >> that's where it begins. they should learn at an early age that if you commit a crime, you got to do the crime. we have prison chaplain, prison ministries, very successful. riled rather go down that route. >> steve: father jonathan? >> i think it's good to make it clear we're not talk being violent offenders. this is the first-time nonviolent misdemeanors. our prisons are way overloaded in many cases and what we're talking about here is san option, just like there are many other options of community service options to take off, to work off jail time. now, where the city went wrong here is that they were -- they opened it up to churches, there is not a secular option -- this is where the constitutional element -- there should be a secular option and a nonchristian option for people who are not christians or perhaps not even believers and want to work it off. with steve, to your point, the aclu here is not concerned about just a plurality of options. they don't want religion at all to be a good thing. everyone is jumping on board, freedom from religion, these pr groups. >> i agree with you on that. we have to have religion in everyone's life, as far as i'm concerned. however, for the government to impose itself on churches, i have a problem with that. >> the government is not imposing itself on churches. it's on open option. do you want to serve this or would you like to work that off in another option? >> how about working it off in community service and sending chaplains to the prisons? i think we're opening up a pandora's box when government gets involved. >> steve: how many times does a judge say, okay. i'm either going to have to put you in jail, unless you go to a rehab program or something like that? the rehab program might be run bay church. essentially it's the same kind of thing. >> except that in a church, you're being forced to worship, forced to pray. when you're sitting in a church -- >> i can't let you say that because the government is not forcing anyone to go to these churches. it's one option -- >> if i'm the criminal, sitting in a court, whether i believe or not, i'm thinking, gee, instead of going to jail, i'll just spend an hour or two in that church and go out and live my life. >> of course, the judge has to make sure that the punishment, right, or the -- is equal to the type of rehabilitation that is an offering a for that. important thing is this city needs to stand up against the aclu and against these crazy groups and say, you are not going to stop us just because it's involving religion. >> agreed, but based on the track record of judges, they're not doing a very good job of protecting our citizens. >> steve: we'll have to end it there. great debate. steven rogers and father jonathan morris, thank you very much for joining us. we understand down there in alabama, the chief thinks they will start the program in october. >> thank you very much. >> steve: that was great. straight ahead, he inspired millions to vote, but can anyone inspire anyone to hire the founders of some of america's biggest companies, like bet telling the president to get out of their way. but first, the song striking a chord with voters. ♪ ♪ taxes are bringing small business to their knees ♪ ♪ and our souls to the rich i need ♪ ♪ mr. president ♪ mr. president ♪ what are you going to do ♪ . >> steve: yeah. we played you part of that song in the last hour. there is more to come right after this break. sing it, ray stevens. ♪ i talk real soft ♪ ♪ then go out and play another round of golf ♪ ♪ or party at the white house f! >> fox news has confirmed that the new jersey governor chris christie will not seek the gop nomination for president. sure, why would you go to washington, d.c., give up all the glamour of trenton, new jersey, the fast bars, the women, the lifestyle, yeah! >> eric: he's probably never been to trenton. >> gretchen: is that what happens? >> eric: lots of women and fast cars in new jersey. >> gretchen: really? steve, we figured -- >> steve: don't say it. >> gretchen: i'm going to get you off the hook. we found how eric stays awake when he fills in. behind this beautiful couch, there are three empty cups of coffee. >> steve: oh, yes. >> gretchen: i just asked him, did you drink all of those and he said yes. very scary. look at that. look at that. i nurse one throughout the morning. >> eric: the 3:00 o'clock wake-up call, you get used to it after a while. >> gretchen: all right. more on eric's coffee consumption in a moment. first your headlines, a fugitive caught after 41 years on run. george wright, 1970s militant who escaped a new jersey prison and hijacked a plane was captured in portugal where he was living with a wife and kids. what was the break? police matched his fingerprints to an i.d. card. he's 68 years old and escaped to algeria and got a million bucks in ransom. he had demanded that f.b.i. agents wear only bathing suits when they brought him the money. his most recent job, working as a bouncer at a nightclub. interesting story. >> steve: he got away. >> eric: they got his guy. >> steve: he is one of the f.b.i.'s most wanted criminals, so how did this ruthless mexican drug lord become the proud papa of two american citizen children? it's a story that's causing quite a bit of controversy. with a ken guzman's wife crossed freedly into the united states and then at a hospital, gave birth to twins near l.a the reason? she is a u.s. citizen and now she's headed back to mexico with two american daughters with u.s. birth certificates. >> eric: business group opposed to health care overhaul will file an appeal with the supreme court. it's asking the high court to strike down the entire law, not just the individual mandate which would be a requirement to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. this comes the same day as the obama administration is expected to respond to another suit challenging the health care law. >> gretchen: time for a "fox & friends" exclusive. check out country singer ray stevens' new song. he wrote it especially for president obama. ♪ we got record foreclosures, folks are losing their homes ♪ ♪ the banks have got money but they won't make loans ♪ ♪ the taxes are bringing small business to their knees ♪ ♪ and we owe our souls to the rich ♪ ♪ mr. president ♪ mr. president ♪ what are you going to do ♪ i'm going to take off my coat and roll up my sleeves ♪ ♪ turn on the teleprompter and give another speech ♪ ♪ act real cool and talk real soft ♪ ♪ then go out and play another round of golf ♪ >> gretchen: that is called "mr. president" and it's not even on youtube yet. he's a grammy winning recording artist and a big fan of "fox & friends." >> steve: indeed he is. ray, where are you today? let me give you the weather and everybody else can go ahead and watch. as you can see, we got a wet day in the northeast in new england, down through the mid atlantic and portions of dixie land, and lingering shower activity, just showers, but they'll take it across portions of texas. we have action overnight in the puget sound area. current temperatures as you get up, in seattle, at 5:36 in the morning, if you're watching, go outside. it's 48 degrees there. caribou, maine, 44. up in new england. currently room temperature in raleigh-durham, 60s and 70s across much of the southern half of the u.s. 50s and 60s across the northern half. today's daytime highs, going to warm in the 80s and 90s across the belly of the country. and across much of dixieland with humid temperatures on the way. 86 in raleigh. they'll have 92 in tampa. and meanwhile, for folks in the chicagoland area, your daytime high on this wednesday is going to be 63. in new york, it's going to be a wet day, 71 will be the daytime high. that's your fox travelcast for this wednesday. >> gretchen: let's talk a little bit about how big business has been reacting to the president of the united states. president obama. in a series of recent interviews, it seems more and more ceos have been speaking out and really begging for different regulations and such to try and create jobs or at least an atmosphere of certainty for them to be able to go ahead and hire more people. the latest one is bob johnson, founder of bet. media mogul before that and he's out of chicago, interestingly enough. he's a hillary clinton supporter, but here is what he told scott pelley from cbs. >> how do you create jobs in this country? >> i don't think we have the leadership either in the white house or the congress and until both parties agree that the goal is to rebuild the american economy to reflect the 21st century and a goal and environment, we're going to be stuck and it's a little bit frightening from the standpoint of a business person and particularly an african-american business person. >> steve: he goes on to say, and it's a great interview, he said what we need in washington is leadership and we need people in congress and a president who are willing to say, i'm going to make the tough choices and i'm willing to be a one termer to make the really tough choices. >> eric: he's mentioned we need -- what washington needs to understand is how to rebuild the economy to make it a global powerhouse. but hopefully he meant through the private sector. >> steve: absolutely. >> eric: and not through dc. >> steve: that's how he did it. >> gretchen: let's take a look at also a quote from charles schwab. you recognize that word. he wrote an editorial. he said the simple fact is that every business in america was started by an entrepreneur, whether it's ford motor company, google, or your local dry cleaner. every single job they create requires an investment and at its core, investing requires confidence. he was one of the few, i think -- but one of the groups that was trying to get chris christie to come on board out of new jersey. looks like that's probably not going to happen. >> steve: yeah. one of the other things he says is, we can't fund our government coffers by following the buffett rule. that would penalize the job creators and many of america's most successful people. one of which, ted leonas, owner of the capitols, the mystics and verizon center. he has sent a note out that says this. he says, economic success has somehow become the new boogie man. some of the democratic party are now casting about for enemies and business leaders and anyone who has achieved success. this is to counter the american dream and it's really turning off so many people that love america and basically carry our country on their back by paying taxes and by employing people and creating gdp. what he's saying is mr. president, lay off the class warfare. >> eric: class warfare and how about bringing business back to america? how about making a more friendly business environment? everything that's gone on at 1600 pennsylvania avenue for the past 2 1/2 almost three years now has been antibusiness with the exception of one thing. extending the bush tax cuts. but he was forced to do that. he was painted in the corner. he signed it. remember what he said when he signed those extensions. he said, this is no time to raise taxes in the middle of a recession. guess what? 14 million people are still out of work, jobs aren't coming back. the head of coke says it's easier to do business in china and russia than america. he needs to change. try something different. tax and spend and redistribute wealth ain't working. >> steve: people don't like it. >> gretchen: so we'll continue to discuss that throughout the rest of the week, no doubt, as well as this: a bombshell recording from michael jackson. >> gretchen: that was the king of pop, so high on drugs, you can barely understand what he's saying. could this close the case on the doctor who allegedly administered some of those drugs? 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dr. larry sabato, director of the centers for politics at university of virginia joins us. so tell us, sir, these big names, trump, palin, christie, are they distracting the gop? is it time we have to focus in on one or two candidates? >> eric, yes, they are distractions. yes, it's time to focus in on the real field because one of them will be the republican nominee for president. not these three. at least that's my feeling. i don't think -- i certainly don't think trump is running. certainly don't think pail be is running -- palin is running and i doubt seriously chris christie is running. i think he's enjoying the attention, that's fine. who wouldn't? but republicans are going to have to get down to looking at their real field, the people who have actually put their money and time on the line and have been running for a long time. >> eric: you know what, though? i really enjoy this. i love the big field, the nine or ten who have announced and the three who haven't announced or made a decision yet, i guess trump technically made a decision, he says no. but christie and palin, i kind of like them in the mix. i like wondering if they're going to run. it's not distracting for me and i'm looking forward to what they have to say and what they can bring to the gop, maybe push some of the nine who are on the podium every couple of days for a debate, maybe even push them into more pinpointed, more focused ideology or points. >> sure, no one is trying to shut them down. no one is trying to shut them up. it's simply a matter, really of timing. we're reaching the end of that early part of the cycle when you have to make a decision, you have to get in. we probably already passed it. the real deadline is october 31. that's the filing deadline for the florida republican primary. look, you're not going to be running for president if you're not on the ballot in florida. so you can just put that on your calendar. that's the end of all this speculation one way or the other. but remember, you have to back up from there. it's going to take weeks to organize, to get everything ready to file and to get a staff put together, to put people in the right places around the country. so we're at the end of the process. >> eric: larry, donald trump is a very good friend of mine. but i find it curious that all these candidates seem to want to come and have a slice of pizza or dinner with the donald. why is that? >> well, look, he's got a lot of tea party support. they would like to have the donald's hands placed on their head, you know, as the preferred choice. but look, there is a hidden agenda here, too. none of the republicans want him jumping in as an independent. he's toyed with that. he's talked about it. if he ran as an independent, he wouldn't be president, but he'd end up getting three, four, 5% of the vote and 90% of it would be right out of the republican column. >> eric: just about a half minute or so, just about everything in these races is about money. you follow the money, you realize those are the ones who stay in the race. is it important to kind of weed the field down to one or two so that the money can be focused on one or two, especially since they're both -- all of them, nine are running against one man? >> eric, that's going to happen naturally. i think it's going to happen a little sooner than other people think. some people think this is going to go all wait to may or june. i doubt it. i think because the field is already pretty focused, you're going to have a nominee, republicans are going to rally around that nominee and those financeeers, those donors will have somebody to focus on next late winter, early spring. >> eric: all right, larry sabato, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks. >> eric: next on the rundown, a stunning audio recording from michael jackson just days before his death. >> eric: the king of pop high and drugged out. now his doc is on trial. does dr. conrad murray even have a case? 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