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gingrich, i think you would have a couple of really interesting things to work with. >> how would herman cain and newt gingrich like to mate up like that? interesting to say the least. who the other candidates picked straight ahead. >> and it's the worst two days plunge in years. i'm talking about the dow. the dow dove enough to wipe out all of the gains your 401k made in the last year. so what's next? "fox & friends" starts right now. >> live from new york city, studio e, it's 90 seconds off the top of the hour. >> i'm sorry. we have a bit of a radio announcement going on at the same time. >> what's going on? what is it? >> i think it's 10-10 wins doing an update. traffic is bad in midtown manhattan. >> one of the production guys was crawling behind the couch before we went on. i wasn't sure why he was underneath the couch. >> he dropped his whiskey. that's the worst. >> it's flask friday. anyway, listen, we have got -- if you missed the big debate last night, we have all the highlights and tell you who the blogs are saying won and who the blogs are saying lost. >> he's going to get up. he doesn't want to be caught on camera. what's going on back there? did you fix it? thank you, ted. >> oh, my goodness. more on the debate in a second and more of what ted was doing behind the couch. we want to get other big news this morning if we can roll the prompter. there we are. developing stories while you were sleeping, steven powell, the father-in-law of missing utah woman susan cox powell arrested. he's accused of having sexually explicit images of her on his computer. and that's not all. they found thousands of images of other women and minors being photographed without them knowing. susan's husband josh lives with his father and has been repeatedly questioned about her disappearance but never been charged. brand new video of amanda knox looking visibly nervous at a courtroom in italy where closing arguments are under way in her appeals trial. she was convicted of murdering her roommate in 2007. her lawyers have spent the past 10 months trying to poke holes in d.n.a. evidence used to convict her. if the conviction is overturned, knox's 26-year prison sentence could be commuted as early as next month. it's before 1:00 a.m. and the house narrowly approved a stop gap spending bill to keep the government operating only until november 18th but a possible shutdown on september 30th still looms because the bill will be dead on arrival when it hits the democratically controlled senate today. they are demanding more disaster relief funding and angry about the bill's deep cuts to clean energy programs. get out the hard hat. today's forecast, sunny with a chance of falling space junk. a 6 1/2 ton nasa satellite coming towards planet earth right now. it's expected to crash down this afternoon. nasa says it's impossible to predict exactly where the pieces of the satellite will land. but north america reportedly not in the strike zone. i don't know why you have your hard hats on but we live in north america. >> first thing you said was get out your hard hats. >> i want to make sure nothing gets hit. welcome back to the bob the builder program. >> i'll tell you what -- >> why don't you keep those on while we talk politics? >> fine, i'll be your catcher. >> i don't want to ruin my hair this morning. i put a lot of effort into mine. let's talk about perry and romney, they focused a lot on each other last night. they went back and forth and back and forth and the first thing they went at each other at is how they wrote in each other's books and whether they made any changes or amendments later on. >> as a matter of fact, between books, your hard copy book, you said it was exactly what the american people needed to have that romney care given to them as you had in massachusetts. then in your paperback, you took that line out. >> i actually wrote my book and in my book, i said no such thing. when i put my plan together and met with dan from "the washington post," he said is this a plan that if you're president you'd put on the nation? i said absolutely not. this is a state plan for a state. it is not a national plan and it's fine for you to retreat from your own words in your own book but please don't try to make me retreat from the words that i wrote in my book. >> did you notice that zing romney started with? i wrote my book looking at perry as if perry did not write his book and, you know, its one of those things in politics, a lot of guys don't write their book. >> it's so strange. you just know they're on a hair trigger so the minute perry or romney take one shot, they are both so dug in and schooled on each other, it's like unleashing two lions. >> indeed. here they are going at each other on the topic of education. >> i happened to believe we ought to be promoting school choice, all across this country. i think school -- the voucher system, charter schools all across this country. but there's one person on this that's for obama's race to the top, that's governor romney. he said so this last week and i think that's an important difference between the rest of the people on this stage and one person that wants to run for the presidency. being in favor of the obama race to the top and that is not conservative. >> governor romney? >> nice try. >> then he went on to defend himself. the most electric part of the debate that will resonate in the polls that we see in the following days will be when governor perry's plan that he does not run from, his plan for illegal immigrants in his state of texas, that exists even today to give them tuition discounts and allow them to attend colleges in texas, i think this is going to resonate the longest. i think it surprised somewhat senator santorum that perry did not back this off, he talked about having a heart. senator santorum put it in perspective. listen. >> i will say -- i will say that he is off on illegal immigration, i think the fact that he doesn't want to build a fence. >> got one question for him, have you ever even been to the border with mexico? >> yes. >> i'm surprised if you have but you weren't paying attention because the idea -- >> the answer is yes. >> that you are going to build a wall, a fence for 1,200 miles and then go 800 miles more to tijuana does not make sense. you put the boots on the ground. we know how to make this work. you put the boots on the ground. >> but it's not working. >> you put the aviation assets in the ground. >> it's not working. >> because the federal government -- >> you said you know how it works. >> the federal government has not engamiged in this at all. i'll tell you one thing, we'll put the assets on the ground, the boots on the ground, the aviation assets on the ground and we will stop illegal immigration. we will stop the drug cartels and we will make america secure. >> can we answer the question? is it working? >> the interesting thing there is rick perry seems to have the dichotomy in his illegal immigration policy because on the one hand, he does believe in this in state tuition and in fact, most of the texas legislature does as well. only 4 of the 181 members of the texas legislature voted against this. so it seems that texas is in line with all of this. but at the same time, he believes in much stricter enfor enforceme enforcement. he wants to build a wall. he's right, the federal government has not been very helpful in this whole process. >> one of the other candidates brought up, either romney or santorum who brought up that each -- giving in-state tuition to the children of illegal aliens can save those families, i think they said $22,000 a year over the course of, you know, a college career. it could save the illegal family close to $100,000 whereas, say, somebody from oklahoma, they send their kids to university of texas, they'd have to spend the extra $100,000. >> so there's a bunch of layers to this. senator santorum is saying, after governor perry came back and said, i think that through no fault of their own, they're in here, this country illegally and i think if you have a heart essentially you can allow them to go to college. you can go ahead and do that, why are we subsidizing that education? you're putting illegal immigrants ahead of american citizens and i think that's fundamentally wrong. governor perry did not back off that. maybe that's going to help with the hispanic community. i know it's not going to help with conservatives. >> trust me, the hispanic community is a very important part of this vote in 2012. it may be a smart, strategic move on his part. i think to finish out his thought process, brian, the reason that he believes that we should provide this kind of tuition for the illegals because he believes if we don't, they become a drag on society. as long as they're already here, not because they choose to be here, this is his argument, we should get them educated. otherwise, they go back on the government dole. bachmann fired back and said his policy acts like a magnet for all the illegal immigrants to come here but i think he's speaking specifically about those who are already here. >> one of the people who was on the stage last night doing some of the interrogation was chris wallace and you're about to see an amusing interchange between rick santorum who really wanted to follow up and then chris had to put him in his place because they were out of time. listen to this. >> can we answer the question? is it working? >> you know, you asked your question. he gave his answer, sir. >> ok. >> sometime we're frustrated with all of you answering questions. >> yep, that's right. >> keep in mind, you know, we're watching this situation where most of the focus are two guys in the middle because they're polling the strongest and they seem to have the most -- the money, the best organization and got the most interest but in 2008, at this very same time, rudy giuliani had the popular vote amongst republican voters. fred thompson was second and he was the flavor of the day. everybody saying wow, this can be the guy that cannot only play a president but become president and senator mccain had 15% of the vote, he was third. senator mccain would come back and get the nomination. >> this is what i think is the most important and fascinating thing that we've discussed in weeks because everyone thinks that it's come down to these two. every pundit, in fact, says that. they say michelle bachmann should drop out of the race right now but when you look at that, it signifies why maybe they shouldn't because things can change dramatically in 12 to 15 months. >> sure. who won? we'd love to have you e-mail us, friends at foxnews.com. we'll tell you what some of the blogs are saying this morning. rich lowry on national review says i thought rick perry would get better. he hasn't. he's been coming back to earth lately part on even debate performances. red states says the winner was herman cain. says the audience loved him and his answers were out of the park awesome. ann coulter twittered that governor perry losing the debate on his own tongue where she was talking about where he had the chance to whack governor romney on flip-flopping and just fumbled it up. >> coming up on the show, rick santorum and michelle bachmann will be on "fox & friends" later on this morning. >> and what a show! >> meanwhile, a record number of young people are out of work right now. whose fault is that? president obama's or is it their own fault? we'll report, you decide. >> yep. and a story generating strong reaction on both sides. should inmate be allowed to choose their final meal? 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joining me is matthew siegel, ceo of an organization called our time. good to he soo you. i'm glad you're a ceo at only 25 years old. what do you make of those figures? young people simply are not finding employment and i know that some people are deeming it as the lost generation potentially. >> young people are frustrated right now and they're frustrated because we're a generation whose potential is going completely untapped. we have all these social media technology skills. we view the world through a different vantage point in a globalized economy and we're not being able to contribute our perspective and our ideas towards growing the work force and that's a shame. >> why? >> well, we have an unemployment rate that's the worst since world war ii. we have more young people living at home with their parents in their parents' basement than ever before. college debt has never been greater. personal debt from credit cards has never been greater. and young people aren't an organized constituency that are voting in high enough numbers to show politicians we'll be there to vote them out of office if they don't create policy in our interest. >> in 2008, much of the success of the candidate barack obama was the young people. >> you're absolutely right. will that happen again in 2012? >> i think young people in 2012 are going to be very focused on taking ownership of the fact that policy today is not conscientious of us and what we need to do is hold our politicians accountable about long-term investments in education. you talked about earlier in this show investing in young people to make them not a burden on the states so that they have an education. training them so they have skills that are in emerging fields so they can contribute to economic growth. we want to invest in people at the beginning so long term, we can grow the economy rather than bail them out when it's too l e late. >> i want you to listen to candidate mitt romney last night. he talked about this exact thing. >> trying to define who is rich and not rich. i want everybody in america to be rich. i want people in this country to have opportunities. and i -- i wanted everybody to have the kind of opportunities that we on this stage have had. i want people in america to recognize the future will be brighter for their kids than it was for them. >> do you believe that as a 25-year-old? >> i think young people today are uniquely optimistic because we complete college in greater proportions. but, you know, this is a generation right now that views politics as toxic, and we're looking for politicians who are willing to say that the right things, make tough decisions that enable economic growth. we're also looking for ways we can serve our country. look at the young people that want to serve. they're willing to work below minimum wage in disaster relief positions, in green jobs, in the military, they're willing to serve and die for their country but there's not enough jobs to go around. has to be the focus. >> one thing you were a little disappointed about the debate last night, that you felt the candidates on stage did not speak specifically to your group, the younger people. why did they not do that? >> a lot of talk about deregulation and the health care bill being a burden to job creation. well, interestingly, young people yesterday in "the new york times" were shown to be the most benefited constituency from the health care bill. almost over a million young people can now stay on their parents' insurance plan and, you know, that kind of focus was not addressed about what we're going to do as a government to create jobs as opposed to getting government completely out of the way. young people view government as inefficient in some areas of life but, you know, to completely abolish the government as ron paul or michelle bachmann was saying seems a little extreme and young people, 4 out of 10 of us don't identify with political parties. we're up for grabs. if you're a candidate right now, go for us. >> there's a big group of young people. matthew siegel, the ceo of our time, stands up for economic interests of young americans. thanks so much for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> making fun of customers on line probably won't get you a raise at work. should it get you fired? and all the 401k gains you made in the past year, they've been completely wiped out. stu varney is here. does he have a smile on his face? he does. greetings, stu. [ beeping ] ♪ hush, little baby ♪ don't you cry ♪ soon the sun ♪ is going to shine ♪ [ male announcer ] toyota presents the prius family. ♪ walk if i want, talk if i want ♪ [ male announcer ] there's the original one... the bigger one... the smaller one... and the one that plugs in. they're all a little different, just like us. >> all right. quick headlines for you on this friday morning. the f.b.i. has arrested three suspected computer hackers including cody kretsinger accused of hacking into sony pictures data base. really? kretsinger along with joshua cavelli are believed to be former members of the anonymous hacking groups. meanwhile, top executives from solyndra will be on capitol hill today for a hearing before a house subcommittee over the solar company's $535 million loan. however, they are not expected to say much. the ceo and cfo will plead the fifth. >> the dow jones industrials tanked yesterday, down almost 400 points as investors became increasingly gloomy over prospects of the global economy and the possibility of another recession. >> stu varney says there will be a small bounce maybe because now the futures have changed since you originally were getting up this morning. >> that's right. two or three hours ago, the signals pointed towards a slight bounce. that's been reversed. we're now looking for a bit more selling. >> why? >> nothing's changed. absolutely nothing has changed overnight. you still got ben bernanke who doesn't have a functioning plan to get the economy going. president obama doesn't have a functioning plan to get the u.s. economy going. they're in recession in europe and nothing has changed. so in the absence of a big, new, bold plan. we still think there's a global recession in hand and down goes stocks. just a little bit more this morning. >> sure. ok. and the reason for it is because bernanke a couple of days ago was a blabbermouth and said everything is screwed up right now. >> everybody was expecting everybody, the big time investors were expecting that ben would chuck money out there. he'd print up a storm and away you go! well, he came up with $400 billion, switched from short-term securities to long-term securities. twisted. he did the twist. well, the market didn't like that and then when he said look, looks like we're going into a recession, in so many words, that's when the market fell apart. do you know that yesterday, $500 billion, a half trillion dollars was wiped off the value of american stocks? a half trillion in one day. and in two days, it was over a trillion. >> what about the fact that the imf, the new head of the imf says it looks like the economy is entering a dangerous phase. does that blow a role right here? >> yeah, that was a day and a half and two days ago when this came out. that started the selling and adds to the negative feeling. look, we are looking like a global recession. that's not good for stocks. >> right now it's about 1%. we'll get the latest figures in a couple of weeks. it's about 1% growth. that does not make it. that's not a recovery. that's not robust. that doesn't improve the jobs situation, doesn't improve housing and doesn't make you grow. >> to bring it back to individuals watching today, they've had their 401k gains wiped out in one day. >> that's accurate. down 6%, the gains are gone. there will be a lot of people that no longer look at their statement at the end of the month. >> you haven't all year. >> get it all back today. stuart, make it happen. come on! >> phone call. >> too much excuse. >> that's the reason to watch my show, is it not? >> 9:20. >> right. >> easy does it. coming up, presidential candidates asked to pick their vice president from the opponents on the stage with them and the answers very interesting. >> i don't know how you would do this but if you could take herman cain and mate him up with newt gingrich, i think you would have a couple of really interesting guys to work with. >> yeah, mate them up. hear who some of the other candidates picked straight ahead. >> after three decades, the vault is finally opening? priceless john wayne memorabilia will be auctioned off and we're getting a look at all the goods first. his son joins us next. >> first, happy birthday, bruce springsteen. he's from new jersey. >> yeah. >> and he's 62 years old. i'm just bringing it up. >> stuart and i live in new jersey, ok? >> i'm just saying. ♪ [ female announcer ] erybody loves that cushiony feeling. uh oh. i gotta go. 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[ male announcer ] get five dollars in money-saving coupons at v8juice.com. >> all right. america's election headquarters, the post game show. of course, last night with the orlando debate, it was fox news and google combined and, of course, google owns you tube which means that's that channel where people can put little snip et -- snippets on. there was a great final question submitted by somebody, he appeared on camera, asking, all you candidates up there, if you could pick somebody here on the stage as your vice president, who would it be? here's some funny answers. >> and i would say that, you know, right now that, you know, the guy that i'm agreeing with most up on stage is probably the guy to my left so i would say that newt gingrich would be the guy. >> well, staying with the game show idea here, i don't know how you would do this but if you could take herman cain and mate him up with newt gingrich, i think you would have a couple of really interesting guys. >> i don't know how you do it. >> there are a couple of images, i'm going to have a hard time getting out of my mind. >> that's one and gary johnson's dogs are the other. >> if governor romney would throw out his jobs growth plan and replace it with 999, he has a shot. if he does not, i would probably go with speaker gingrich who i have the greatest admiration for in all seriousness because of his history and because of his depth of knowledge. i could go on because i have respect for everybody up here. but it's a game. >> you know, i'm tempted to say when all is said and done, the two guys standing in the middle here, romney and perry won't be around because they'll bludgeon each other to death. >> great observation. >> the interesting thing is that isn't it sort of the prevailing thought process that you pick a v.p. who is maybe not exactly like you? i mean, because you're trying to pick up -- >> or brings something you don't have. >> because you're trying to bring that block of voters to your ticket so the idea that you would pick somebody exactly like you probably not always the case. >> i see newt gingrich as somebody's number two if he doesn't. let's see, bill clinton was the one that thinks newt will come back and win everything. if you watch his debate, not only does he have an answer to the question, he has a solution. >> he does. if you watched last night, we know it was on late, who do you think won? e-mail us. some of your answers are starting to come in. take a look at some of your morning headlines. palestinian leader abbas will push for palestinian statehood when he addresses the u.n. assembly later on today. he doesn't have enough votes in the security council but might request a vote in the general assembly and nobody can clear out a room like the president of iran. dozens of delegates walked out in the middle of mahmoud ahmadinejad's speech when he started spewing september 11th conspiracy theories and anti-semitic slurs, he also blasted the u.s. for killing usama bin laden. >> everybody had to go to the bathroom at the same time. shocker. >> prisoners who are going to be executed will no longer get a final meal of their choosing in texas. this is one of the smartest things texas has done in a while. the state ended the practice after lawrence brewer, this guy right here, who was executed for the dragging death of james byrd requested, get this, two steaks, a triple bacon cheeseburger, fried okra, three fajitas, a pound of barbecue and a pint of ice cream and he ate none of it. that's ridiculous. thank goodness -- it's not like they're going to go hungry, ok, they're going to get the meal that all the rest of the prisoners get that day. good deal. >> and their cell will be empty. a body builder, a governor, now an author, simon & schuester. did i add actor? announcing they've acquired world rights to arnold schwarzenegger's life story. but will it be a tell all? the governorator will talk about the end of his 25-year marriage to maria shriver. no word yet on how much detail he will get into because we know he's got a love child with a housekeeper. you might want to save that until the end. hope i didn't blow the inning for you. -- ending for you. book is out in october. >> i guess you could say he's in a latte trouble. a starbucks barista sent packing after posting a scathing commentary about the company. >> there's about a pound of fat in our coffee cake. it's just a cup of coffee. give me a break. i shouldn't have to put up with this making minimum wage. >> pretty good tune. you're looking at christopher criswell. he took his guitar and started singing after a particularly frustrating day at work. as it turns out, his venti sized frustrations didn't sit too well with starbucks. they canned him calling the song highly inappropriate and insulting towards customers. >> right. he took ron artest's wardrobe, i guess, took his shirt off and wrote a song. major progress to report on this and it's good news. a giants fan bryan stow was beaten at giants stadium. he said his first words since the incident and his family says he was able to give his birth date and even said that he would like to see his kids. the progress came after doctors at san francisco hospital implanted a shunt in stow's brain. two men are currently charged in the beating. >> they're famous for the super bowl shuffle and for being one of the best all time teams in the nfl history. >> ♪ ed mcmahon when i hit the turf i got no plan i throw my body all over the field ♪ >> now the 1985 chicago bears will finally get a visit to the white house 25 years after they won the big game, president obama who happens to be a big bears fan invited them for a visited next month. their original visit in 1986 post po postponed because the space shuttle challenger exploded two days after they won the super bowl and sadly, walter peyton won't be there because he passed away. >> my goodness, that's right. let's go to steve with memorabilia. >> that's right. john wayne, an american icon who still casts a giant shadow today and for the first time, you can own a piece of the duke. hundreds of his personal and one of a kind items from his legendary hollywood career are going up for auction next month. john wayne's son ethan is here to show us some of the spectacular stuff. good morning to you. >> good morning. real pleasure. i just held up something very iconic. if you saw rooster cogburn, you know that your dad wore this in movie. >> yep. funny to see that so many years later sitting here on the table. >> and all this stuff is going up for auction, why? >> i came in in 2003. i field phone calls weekly from people who call with requests to get some item of john wayne's because they have a personal connection with him. for 33 years, we as a family have said no to these people but it's finally time to say yes. >> sure. ok. somebody would love to have that on their mantle. there's a planet hollywood watching, how much would that hat go for do you think? >> we have a low and high estimate. what it actually will go for, i don't know. i hope it doesn't go to planet hollywood but hope it ends up in someone's house who appreciates it. >> one of the estimates for the house is $30,000. what about these boots? where are they from? >> i believe they are from the undefeated. we have a beret here from the green beret. >> i love that. what's the estimate on the boots? >> you've probably got it. i don't have it in my head. i'd have to open the catalog. >> $3,000 for the boots. >> what we did is we wanted to cut a real slice through his personal property memorabilia so we have items like the golden globe from "true grit" which is, you know, maybe a higher priced item all the way down to a great watch. this is a duke watch. >> every number on the face is 5. i guess you could call that a drinking watch. >> so it's always 5:00 somewhere. >> always 5:00. >> your dad wore this? >> he wore it constantly. >> you remember him wearing it? >> oh, yeah. oh, yeah. he was a fun guy. he did like to tip them back from time to time. but he was a positive person, you know, he was the first guy on the set. he worked hard and he played hard, too. >> speaking of the set, there's a script over there. what movie is that to? >> this script is from "the quiet man." >> this is the actual script that he used to study his part. >> this was the script. so let's see, this one i don't think is one that he used. some are annotated and some are not. this looks like it was a file copy. >> there's a cool one from frank sinatra to your father which is fantastic. but this is something i'd actually like to get and this is from? president nixon. >> president nixon, yeah. we have complete chains of correspondence from eisenhower through the time of my father's death. so we wanted to make sure that we didn't just give one portion of items and put them up for sale. we wanted an honest slice of his life and career. everything from the golden globe down to a coffee mug have -- >> you know, economically they're different categories but emotionally they're the stage. >> absolutely. i'm sure it's tough to put it up for sale but i know that it's a good cause. it's going to the john wayne cancer foundation. >> all right. thank you, ethan, thank you. >> thanks for having us. >> if you'd like more information, go to our web site and we'll connect you to their web site. johnwayneauction.com. solyndra execs will plead the fifth today. they have the right to remain silent but do they have a responsibility to tell us what happened to all of our money? 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>> thank you, brian. the solyndra scandal widens today after news that two of the company's top executives are taking the fifth now on capitol hill. so what do they have to hide or is this just standard protocol? >> fox news senior judicial analyst and host of "freedom watch" on the business channel joins us live. when people hear of those guys are going to take the fifth, you figure they have something to hide. if you were their attorney, what would you tell them? >> i would advise them to invoke their right to remain silence. i agree with you, it looks bad. on television and in the media especially when the government is involved. especially when tax dollars are involved. for people to say i'm not going to answer the question because my fifth amendment right allows me to remain silent. couple of basics. the f.b.i. raided their business last week. the f.b.i. -- >> they got the goods! >> right, the f.b.i. has yet to even tell them what they took so she don't know what the f.b.i. has. they don't know what charges, if any, may be filed against them, criminal or civil so the standard operating procedure is to tell them don't say anything. >> they know in their own heart if they actually did something wrong. i know that doesn't change anything. they know. one of the allegations might be that they knew their business was going under and they didn't provide the correct financial data even to the government in an attempt to get that loan. >> that's a very good analysis of what the problem might be. but if they were my clients and no charges have been filed against them yet, i would tell them to remain silent. that's the legal advice. this is a hotbed political issue as well. these people took half a billion dollars of taxpayer dollars and wasted it. and government bureaucrats allowed them to do that and the congress has every right to know and the people have every right to know how they got that half billion. that's the second half of this story. >> sure. so the ceo and the cfo later today are going to take the fifth. i can't say anything but you were talking about those government bureaucrats. they have their side of the story. if they were asked to show up, they can't take the fifth. >> that's correct. there are at least three bureaucrats from the department of energy who sat in on board meetings solyndra, government physically present while executive decisions are being made. congressman sterns and congressman issa can subpoena those people. they do not have a fifth amendment protection and they'll have to answer questions. if they refuse to answer, then the heat on the white house is almost unbearable. >> very interesting. we'll have to see how it all pans out. judge, good luck on your show tonight. >> thank you, guys. >> have a great weekend. >> you as well. >> i like that new jersey hair do you're wearing. >> thank you so much. i have the same cream you're wearing. >> a little dab will do you. >> ok. next on the rundown, we want our troops to come home. are we ready to rush out of iraq? 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was it somebody else? we'll take a closer look. >> i know rick perry won for biggest collar, that's for sure. and this morning, controversy over the funniest line of the night. >> my next door neighbor's two dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than this current administration. >> accused of, perhaps, not only stealing the show but stealing the joke. >> what? >> we will find out. >> we will. we'll get to the bottom of that and new jersey governor chris christie giving some campaign advice. >> posters, hang up posters in school for the campaigns, do you know? >> hang them up until they tell you to take them down. >> good advice. wait until you hear who he was talking to, we are talking to you, you're watching "fox & friends" hour two for a friday starting right now. >> hi there, this is fozy bear. >> and this is kermit the frog and you're watching "fox & friends" on fox. >> and friends? >> uh-huh. thank you very much. >> cute. grover will be here today. i'm excited. >> he's going to assist with the weather and a complete interview so strap yourself in, folks. >> fantastic. >> meantime, governor rick perry waking up with a few bruises this morning? kind of. after mitt romney lands a series of jabs at him in last night's debate. joining us with the wrap-up live from orlando bright and early is shannon bream. thanks so much for getting up early. >> it's my pleasure. i got to tell you, this place last night, this convention center was rocking and rolling, that debate hall was packed. there was tons of energy in there and the candidates seemed to be feeding after that, wasting no time going after each other. the two frontrunners doing a lot of that last night including this jab from governor romney. >> there's a rick perry out there that said almost a quote, that the federal government shouldn't be in the pension business, that it's unconstitutional. unconstitutional and it should be returned to the states so you better find that rick perry and get him to stop saying that. >> that was a big applause line for romney last night. perry used the same strategy and the issue that's going to be the toughest for governor romney to deal with, that's his universal health care plan that he had in massachusetts. here's what perry had to say about that. >> as a matter of fact, between books, your hard copy book, you said that it was exactly what the american people needed to have that romney care given to them as you had in massachusetts. then in your paperback, you took that line out. so speaking of not getting it straight in your book, sir, that would be a -- >> but while those two were going after each other, there were a whole lot of other candidates on the stage. these guys and gals are running for president as well and a couple of times they wanted to weigh in on similar questions and they know they're fighting for attention, headlines in the midst, for a lot of folks it's turned into a two person race. michelle bachmann was among them. i talked to rick santorum last night to him about the debate about how he felt. he's going to keep plugging away despite the fact that so much of the attention centers on those two governors. there were a lot of emotional lines last night as well. hardy round of applause for herman cain when i believe chris wallace mentioned he was a stage 4 colon cancer survivor. there was humor, as noted, governor gary johnson never disappoints. here was his best line of the night and maybe one of the best lines overall. >> my next door's neighb neighb dogs have created more shovel ready projects than this current administration. >> it got a lot of laughs and got a lot of applause. in all seriousness, our partner in this, google helped us to track what people were talking about on line. all of those thousands of questions that were sent in and by far, the number one issue for voters out there, of course, is jobs and the economy. gretchen, back to you. >> all right, shannon bream, thanks so much. >> shannon, great job last night. >> it was not easy. >> thank you. >> coming to a head this morning that possibly rush limbaugh actually said that shovel ready line about dogs first. maybe he actually did create it. >> yeah. >> it was a good line. >> came as a surprise to me. >> sure. it was perfectly placed. so there they were. what was interesting and you just saw former governor johnson right there, there were nine people on stage and it did seem like they did -- the moderators did a pretty good job where it seems not to focus on perry and romney specifically but everybody was on tv quite a bit but they did hammer each other, particularly mr. perry hammered romney on health care and romneycare and it went back and forth and back and forth. >> when it came to social security, that was mitt romney on the offensive and when governor perry came off his statement that he was interested in giving states the rights to handle the pensions, he said well, i want to know really, rick perry, how do we understand where you're coming from? what are you going to feel today as opposed to yesterday. i think rick perry was weak at one point trying to prove mitt romney a flip-flopper. that never came out and the reason why they seemed to spar is because they were mentioning each other in their answers and when you mention the person in their answer. >> 30 seconds. >> you get 30 seconds to respond. >> is that always the rule or just last night? >> i made the rule and i might change it. no, i think it was just last night. >> all right. anyway, that made for the fact that maybe you didn't hear from the other candidates as much as you may have wanted to. i know our e-mailers have a variety of opinions about who they thought won. we'll share that in a moment. let's go back in history a little bit. i find that fascinating. what are we now 14 months out from the election? if you go back to 2008 in a race then, guess who was at the top of the republican ticket at that point? not who ended up there. rudy giuliani had 28% of the voters behind him then. fred thompson had 23% and john mccain who ended up becoming -- being the nominee, 15% and this is fascinating now because a lot of discussion is should certain people get out of the race? well, if you look at those stats, the answer is no. unless they run out of money potentially. maybe they should stick it out. you never know who is going to end up on top. >> story in "new york times" today that we'll ask michelle bachmann about that she's running out of money. >> who do you think won or lost? rhonda from north carolina says herman cain and newt gingrich really helped themselves in the debate last night. cain's answers are clean and crisp and newt demonstrates a breadth of knowledge unequalled by anybody on the stage. i'm with gretchen. political pundits have written everybody off but perry and romney. >> the e-mail machine is called a computer. >> really? >> thanks. >> from north carolina says this, i think rick santorum, newt gingrich and herman cain were the winners. it would be nice if they had more questions. >> who won last night? the democrats. stop fighting yourselves! i know a lot of people feel that way with every party. you got to actually, to get the nomination, you got to rip the other guy or other woman apart. that's what happened. >> especially if they're the frontrunner. i just tweeted a few minutes ago, what was the surprise shocker that came out of the debate last night from herman cain? you're about to find out right now. you may have known he had stage 4 colon cancer. here's what he said had happened to him if that had happened under president obama. listen to this. >> the reason i said that i would be dead under obama care is because my cancer was detected in march of 2006 and from march 2006 all the way to the end of 2006, for that number of months, i was able to get the necessary c.a.t. scan tests, go to the necessary doctors, get a second opinion, get chemotherapy, go get surgery, recuperate from surgery, get more chemotherapy, in a span of nine months. if i had -- we had been under obama care and a bureaucrat was trying to tell me when i could get that c.a.t. scan, that would have delayed my treatment, and now i could do it on my timetable and not on a bureaucrat's timetable. >> yes. what he had said in advance of that was the fact that he's alive today because he had his own health care. and if, you know, if he was -- if obama care was forced upon him, he'd be dead today. it was very, very powerful. and according to red state.com, herman cain won the debate last night. >> didn't hurt himself. even his strongest critic would have to say he's very strong. he's very confident and seems to be gaining steam. he said the key was, he doesn't study the night before. they used to -- his staff used to give him way too much stuff. he says up until two days before the debate, you can give me stuff. up until then, forget it. i'll clear my head. concentration zone. >> rick santorum will join us next and michelle bachmann will follow him at 7:45 a.m. eastern time. in the meantime, bring you a couple of headlines for your friday. we have new video of amanda knox looking visibly nervous in a courtroom in italy, where arguments under way in her appeals trial. her lawyers have spent the past 10 months trying to poke holes in d.n.a. evidence used to convict her. if the conviction is overturned, knox's 26-year prison sentence could be commuted next month. and while you were sleeping, the house narrowly approved a stop gap spending bill to keep the government operating until november 18th. but a possible shutdown on september 30th still looms because the bill will be dead on arrival when it hits the democratically controlled senate today. democrats are demanding more disaster relief funding and they're angry about the bill's deep cuts to clean energy programs. get out the hard hat because today's forecast sunny with a chance of falling space junk! a 6 1/2 ton nasa satellite is hurdling towards planet earth right now. it's expected to crash down on our planet this afternoon. nasa says it's impossible to predict exactly where the pieces of the satellite will land but apparently, north america reportedly not in the strike zone. new jersey governor chris christie giving out campaign advice to a sixth grader? zach martini is running for student council. >> do you know? hang them up until they tell you to take them down. and the last thing is don't make promises you can't keep. all right? if you do, they won't vote for you in seventh grade, all right? it's a long -- >> i guess that advice works for every politician. christie also told zach don't tell people to vote for you. ask them to vote for you. and those are your headlines this morning. good luck to that zach and his student council race. >> and in a school race, generally what i found with many children who have actually run for things, candy with your name on it gets votes. >> that's not right, though. >> it's legal! >> that's not legal. >> yes, it is! >> can't give people a gift for voting for you. >> uh-huh. >> i'm in new jersey, remember? >> oh, i guess so! >> that's where bribery is ok. coming up on the -- >> candy is ok. >> it looks like a child's doodling but it's not. it's the signature of someone on the president's economic team. >> fantastic. >> plus paula back together with simon. but is she already regretting it? brian goes one on one with his old buddy paula here on "fox & friends." 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that's what we're saying. so yes, i would say -- i would say that -- i would say that he is soft on illegal immigration. >> and that is -- that was him then and this is him now. former senator of pennsylvania, rick santorum. strong interaction there. you have to be pleased about the way it went. i don't think governor perry is upset about the way it went. he's proud of the policy he has in texas approved by that legislature. >> well, look, i mean, this is a clear difference of opinion. that's what debates are all about. it's to let the public decide what kind of leader you want and i think if you look at governor perry on the issue of immigration whether it's providing benefits for illegals in this country, whether it's having strong border enforcement, i said last night, he's even talked about the idea of a binational health care system so he can make it easier for people to work in both countries so i just think it's -- he has a very different idea of what we need to do on illegal immigration than i do. i think that was laid out last night. >> i don't know if he had the same idea with you about don't ask, don't tell. i know you disagree with president obama which, by the way, got rid of don't ask don't toll ju tell just a couple of days ago. let's listen to what you said last night. >> any type of sexual activity has no place in the military and the fact that they're making it a point to include it as a provision in the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to -- and removing don't ask, don't tell, i think tries to inject social policy into the military and the military's job is to do one thing and that is to defend our country. what we're doing is playing social experimentation with our military right now and that's tragic. >> so you would go back to don't ask, don't tell if you become president? >> absolutely. you know, we don't even -- we haven't even begun to see what the consequences of going to don't ask, don't tell are going to be. the men and women who sign up for the military are now going to be placed in very difficult and uncomfortable personal situations. and very close quarter situation. look, this is a volunteer military. i mean, the other militaries where this is tried by and large have not been voluntary military. they've been required to serve. this is not. and so we got to recruit people who want to do this and now, you're going to put them in a very odd and uncomfortable environment. a lot of people, i believe, are going to leave. i think a lot of folks are not going to join who otherwise would have joined and that's going to hurt our readiness and hurt our ability to defend this country and we shouldn't be playing social experimentation, as i said last night, there is no role for playing, you know, sexual experimentation games in the united states military. this is about securing our country. >> let me ask you about this. tomorrow, they're going to have the straw poll down there in florida. and ever since the days of ronald reagan, whoever florida republicans pick has gone on to become the g.o.p. nominee. after the poll, are you going to make a determination whether or not you're in for the long haul? >> no. you know, this is a very different straw poll than what happened in ames where, you know, there was a long process and people, you know, invest a lot of money. i think for me, i mean, i've been down here one day. and i've come down to florida a few times and worked county dinners and the like but, you know, this is for me, this is not where my focus is. it's got to be iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, we're going to spend time in florida. we certainly want to do well, we hope we do ok in the straw poll but for us, this is not that big of a deal for us. >> i'll tell you what, if your family gets to vote in pennsylvania, you'll win. your family is tremendous. so if you get to pennsylvania, you'll be tough to beat. >> thanks, brian. >> and it was great meeting your daughter, actually at the super bowl. good job last night. look forward to the next debate. three within the last 15 days, not easy. thanks for joining us this morning. >> lot of fun. thank you, guys. appreciate it. >> paula settling back into the judges panel. is he comfortable sitting next to simon again? 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>> paula, stand up. >> how embarrassing. >> that's too high. that's too high. >> be a total nightmare. >> and you can -- >> it's like getting on a bike again. getting back together with simon, all it took was five minutes before the insults started flying back and forth. i mean, it's -- it's been fun, though, i got to tell you, i'm having the time of my life and, you know, the friendship that we have, we know that we can be transparent with each other. we can fight it out and we can also laugh about how passionate and focused we are as individuals and it all makes for a great, great competition and great television. >> you guys are getting along. >> i don't know. >> for now. >> now, he has the most on the line. he said i'm leaving the successful show. you said i'm leaving this successful show. i'm going to move on. but you probably have the second most on the line. how much pressure do you feel to make "the x factor" bigger than "idol"? >> you know what? i don't look at things that way. you're talking to someone who has been blessed to be a part of the first day in launching "idol" and now i'm here launching "the x factor." i'm very excited. i'm very blessed to be a part of this and i'm there for simon, you know, this is his baby. and the way he's treating the show and the crew and the team that he's assembled, he treats it with respect. he treats us all with respect. and we're working hard. we want this to work. >> and you do have some talent out there already. that was pretty clear. what about that? >> the talent is really what it's all about. >> ♪ got me on my knees i'm begging please ♪ >> with this show, not only are you seeing exceptional talent, but as a viewer, you're getting a bird's eye view into the spirit and psyche of these amazing performers. the adversity they have to overcome and you get to see it. that's why you resonate with it and become emotionally connected to these people. >> ♪ yeah ♪ >> look forward to talking to you along the journey and welcome, great to have you back on fox. >> great to be back. >> good stuff. >> 24, that's a lot of work, 24 rating. "the x factor" opened up at a 12. so simon is on this incredible winning streak. he's got to wonder, is he going to get it back up gradually or is america ready to say "the x factor" you're better than "idol"? i don't know if they can both exist. >> they can both exist, because they're on at different times of the season. i think "the x factor" has been amazing. i love it! i think it's incredibly produced. it's positive. it's inspirational. i love it. >> "the x factor." >> you have gretchen's endorsement, simon, so all is good. meanwhile, some bad news. >> yeah, car bombing with a dad and his two kids inside. was he tarpthed on purpose? judge jeanine pirro weighs in. that's what's left of his volvo wagon. >> michelle bachmann fielded some tough questions in last night's debate, how does she think she fared? >> it looks like a child's doodling but it's a signature from someone on the president's economic team. i'm so scared. i'm taking oall my money out of the bank. it's a slinky. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it. this is what we can gather from an ordinary crash test dummy. two million data points. this is what we can gather from a lexus crash test genius. 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as people head out the door or to school? >> i would guess right over there. right there. >> that's good. rain all the way from the great lakes up through the northeast down along the atlantic coast and portions of dixie land. it looks like atlanta has a lot of thunderstorms. by the way, your neighborhood, sesame street. >> yeah? yeah? >> it looks like it's going to be a rainy day here. >> oh, no! where's it looking good? >> where's it looking good? >> yeah. >> well, right now, temperaturewise, it's looking great in phoenix. >> let's go over to phoenix, then. >> good. >> it's much nicer, yes. it's nice over here. >> wait a minute, you can feel the temperature for whatever town i tell you. >> sure. sure. >> all right. you're suddenly up in rapid city where it's 41 mr. freezing. >> oh! let's get out of here! >> fine, you're in new orleans where right now it's 72 it degrees. room temperature. >> nice again. >> later on today, of all those temperatures, what town awould you like to be in, grover? >> you know what? by the end of the day, i would like to go back to "sesame street." >> you're gonna probably. 107 will be the high today in phoenix. a lot of 80's along the gulf coast and 90's in -- >> look at that. look at all those numbers. >> yeah. >> i wonder what they mean. >> yeah. yeah. you talk a lot about letters and numbers on "sesame street." >> i do. i love letters and numbers! >> for a monster. grover will be back with us this half-hour for the fact that "sesame street" has been on the air for 42 years. >> you got to be kidding me! >> congratulations. and you got some friends. if you got some kids at home, as you two do, bring them to the tv. >> yeah, yeah! >> can i ask a question? >> sure. >> go ahead. >> what does it do to grover's coat when he's caught in rain? when he's trying to get a cab. >> sometimes the dye kind of starts washing out. >> yeah. >> a little pale blue. >> ends up white>> you should be scotch guarded. >> that's a good idea. where's the hair girl? >> hair and make-up here? >> all right. erica, get out here. grover needs a comb. >> all right. bye. hey, now, your headlines, there will be a quiz. pay attention. a major showdown at the united nations happening today. palestinian president abbas pushing for statehood and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu pushing back. live now in the u.n. with the latest. usually we have to travel across the world to get controversy with the palestinian-israelis. it's happening by us now. >> it's just a couple of blocks away from you and maybe big bird can help. who knows? that's right, the face-off between palestinian president abbas and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will happen just behind me at the united nations. we pretty much already know the outcome. abbas is expected to present his proposal to the security council asking about the issue of a palestinian state. i asked him if he considered resigning if it doesn't happen. here's his thoughts on the situation. everybody wonders what happens after the speech. do you worry there could be a third intifada? >> i feel good there will be no armed intifada because the people believe that they will exist in this way, peaceful way, not in gaza. >> the late israeli prime minister yitzhak rabin and the late egyptian president anwar sadat paid with their lives when they came to a peace agreement. do you think you could be assassinated if you come to a peace agreement? >> i believe in god, i believe god decides so it doesn't matter. >> if you're unable to get an upgrade in status at the united nations, would you consider resigning? >> if we have elections, i will not transform these elections. this is exactly what i said. and this is my position. to resign or not to resign, it depends on the consequences after we return back. >> here's a scary possibility, a senior palestinian official tells me if they have no more hope, they are considering handing over the entire palestinian authority to the israelis to take over, that will be a $3.2 billion burden. israeli taxpayers would have to deal with. send it back to you guys in new york. >> and france has moved. france will give you that vatican status. is that something he's actively considering? >> that's a possibility, one of the options that they could receive but they really say that's not enough. they want more. they want their own state and possibly turning over the keys to the israelis which the israelis do not want to see is a very serious possibility for them. >> wow. >> all right, good seeing you. stay out of trouble in new york city, all right? >> see you guys. >> i will! >> try. >> more headlines for you this hour, while you were sleeping, steven powell, the father-in-law of missing woman susan cox powell has been arrested. he's accused of having sexually explicit images of her on his computer and that's not all. the arrest video just into fox news, police say they found thousands of images of other women and minors being photographed without them knowing. susan's husband josh lives with his father and has been repeatedly questioned about her disappearance. but so far, never charged. >> all right. many people make poor decisions on having too much to drink. a new study says you should stop blaming the booze and start blaming yourself. the university of missouri studied this and finds that drinking has no effect on your brain's ability to detect and stop bad behavior? >> yeah, right. >> i'd like to see another study. however, the study did find drinking makes people care less about the consequences of their actions. i think this needs further review. who am i? >> meanwhile, it looks like a child's doodle. which prominent white house official signs their name like that? take a guess. the doodle is actually the autograph of budget director jack lu. >> i don't see it. it's not clear when or why lew adopted the creative john hancock. as budget director, lew plays a key role in the debate on how to reduce the national debt. and that is how he signs his name. and that's a quick look at your headlines for this half-hour. now, at the debate last night. >> right, steve. >> there were some zingers. >> yes, there was. we're a nation of bumper stickers. one liners and we got a lot of them last night, let's take a look back at the candidates at their highest point. >> let me tell you the title that i want to hear said about president obama. and that is, former president barack obama. i don't think we're doing a service to the american people to keep banterring about what you call it or what you don't call it. the solution is fix it. >> but i believe it's fundamentally wrong to give people money for 99 weeks for doing nothing. that's why we had welfare reform. >> i love this kuncountry. i spent my life in the private sector, not in government. i spent four years as governor, i didn't inhale. >> my neighbor's two dogs have created more shovel ready projects than this current administration. >> very, very funny. when you only have one minute or 30 seconds, we need to be brief. >> now we have no time. >> let's go over to her. gretch? >> car bombing with his dad and two kids inside. was he targeted on purpose? joining me now is the host of "justice" with judge jeanine pirro. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so we talked about this story a couple of days ago. michigan, a dad with his two sons in the car. bombs go off. do you make of it? >> he's a business attorney and represents several companies and business interests, but i think more significant is the fact that he handles matrimonial cases as well as family law cases and as someone who has actually sat in the family court as a judge, i can tell you that these are volatile litigants and they blame the attorneys for the spouse's or the person they're suing for whatever actions they take. what is going to happen now is they'll look at all of his clients. there are probably clients who have indicated they're very unhappy or opposing litigators or not so much attorneys but other people, defendants or plaintiffs on the other side of cases. i think the sad part of this case is there were children that were in the car and so now you're going to see law enforcement very seriously investigating this. this is a serious car bombing. i mean, that thing pretty much melted. >> of course, people would think terrorism first. maybe that's what it is. >> maybe even indicated. we don't see this as terrorism. we see this as a targeted criminal act. >> let's move on to solyndra because the executives now have decided to plead the fifth. i guess that's not that unexpected, right? because the f.b.i. did an investigation and took some documents, maybe they don't want to say anything just yet. >> the scary part about this is after the f.b.i. had executed their search warrants, the president of the company and the executives say look, we're gonna -- we're still going to testify and all summer long, they went to congress and there were so many questions about this company and they said no, we're solvent, there's no problems. so they're reneging on everything. why are they reneging? who are they protecting? why is it that one of the biggest fundraisers for obama is one of the investors in this company? why did they restructure the loans? $535 million, a half a billion dollars and put the taxpayers at the end and the investors come out first. i mean, this smells from the beginning to the end and you know what they did, gretchen, they did the blame bush thing saying, you know what, the bush administration was going to do this until they unearthed a memo, an internal memo within the energy department that said we don't want this. unanimous, we're not doing it. >> even "the new york times" saying bush didn't have anything to do with this. we'll wait and see what these xekttives have to say when and if they speak. you're going to be speaking over the weekend. >> on this case, we'll go into the solyndra case as well as the bob ward case that should be going to verdict soon. >> all right. always good to see you. have good shows. how much of your money should you be able to keep? michelle bachmann was asked that question last night again. her answer getting mixed reviews. how does she feel about the criticism? we'll ask her next. 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"fox & friends" ready to start just about now. >> hello there. this is grover from "sesame street." do you know the way to "fox & friends"? >> steve: we're right here. >> gretchen: coming up, geraldo, who has been on "sesame street" and by the way, the singer of that band, man, she could win "american idol" or "x factor." >> brian: there is no age limit in "x factor," so you don't have to be a kid. >> gretchen: let's do headlines for friday. new video of amanda knox looking visibly nervous in a courtroom in italy where closing arguments are underway in her appeals trial. remember knox is the american student who was convicted of murdering her roommate in 2007. her lawyers have spent the past ten months trying to poke holes in dna evidence used to convict her. if the conviction is overturned, her 26-year prison sentence could be commuted. the gap narrowly passed a stop-gap bill until november 18, but a possible shutdown on september 30 on the horizon because the bill will be dead on arrival when it hits the democratically controlled senate today. democrats are demanding more disaster relief funding and angry about the bill's deep cuts to clean energy programs. topic decks on solyndra on capitol hill for a hearing looking into the solar company's $535 million government loan. however, they're not expected to say much. the ceo and cfo will plead the fifth. gop lawmakers say that they will ask questions anyway. it was bill clinton's global initiative conference, but his wife and daughter stole the shoal. chelsea clinton interviewing her mom, and revealing her dad is pretty much computer illiterate. >> focusing much too kind and gentle because both bill and i, you don't tell anybody, i'll tell you, we are primitive -- my father still refers to the internet as the world wide web. >> you can see why would win many arguments at home. >> gretchen: oh, my goodness. those are your headlines. >> steve: he seems able. >> brian: bill clinton? yeah, she seems very able. >> steve: indeed. governor rick perry waking up with a few bruises this morning after mitt romney and the other candidates on stage landed a series of jabs at him last night at the debate in florida. joining us now with a wrap-up, shannon bream who was live last night and did a fantastic job. hey, shannon. >> thank you so much, steve. good morning. you mentioned governor romney going after governor perry. a lot of folks were going after governor romney as well because they know in order to get attention, they have to land punches against the two front runners. listen to herman cain taking on governor romney on taxes. >> unlike governor romney's plan, my plan throws out the old one, that dog won't hunt. >> it was just one of the many applause lines that herman cain had last night, along with others. there was humor, emotion. of course, herman cain referring to his 9-9-9 plan. one of the questions that the candidates got as well was if you could abolish one government department, what would it be? there was an overwhelming response that had some commonnallity. listen to a couple of the candidates. >> i'm promising to submit a balanced budget to congress in the near 2013. that's a 43% reduction in federal spending. i am going to promise to advocate the abolishment of the federal department of education. [ applause ] >> what i would do as president of the united states is pass a mother of all repeal bills on education. i would take the entire federal education law, repeal it, then i would go over to the department of education, i'd turn out the lights. i'd lock the door and i'd send all the money back to the states. >> not only was the crowd here with the candidates on getting rid of the department of education, as you know, all night long we had questions on youtube where folks could weigh in. the overwhelming response from at home folks as well was get rid of the department of education and that was up against labor and epa and other unpopular departments out there. that's where memory going last night. talked to several of them who are heading out today, not wasting any time. not getting any sleep. they're back on the campaign trail this morning. steve. back to you. >> steve: shannon, we thank you very much. great job. >> brian: let's open the couch. geraldo rivera is here. >> hello, brian. >> brian: you got a busy weekend. i know you got an exclusive interview coming up this weekend with the drama taking place at the united nations. first, it was the third debate in 15 days. what did you think about what we saw? >> it's very entertaining programming. i think they should think about making it a program. every week and keep going. it's compelling viewing. i thought that by putting romney and perry next to each other, it's almost a self fulfilling prophecy that they will be the focus and i think they're the lead contenders and there is nothing that happened last night to dissuade me from the notion that it will be one of the as the nominee. >> steve: what about everybody ganging up on perry? the children of illegals get in-state tuition. he's for it. everybody else on the stage was against it. >> i'm for it, too. as you know. i think that what the other candidates don't understand is that the republican cannot possibly be elected president without the support of independents. a large percentage of whom are latinos. and as i've said on this couch before, latinos are extremely impressed with his moderation on immigration, so you have mitt romney who started his life as a liberal and who remember rudy guiliani said had a sanctuary state in massachusetts when he was governor in that relatively liberal state. suddenly has become an immigration hard liner. rick perry, who lives on the borrowedder and spent a lot of time pondering this issue believes that he has to be a compassionate, even handed approach and i think rick perry has a far better chance of winning those hispanic independent voters than governor romney does. >> gretchen: to be fair, governor perry was also a democrat first. romney was never a democrat. >> did i say democrat? i meant liberal. he was a liberal. no doubt about his liberalism. >> gretchen: he wanted to get elected in massachusetts. >> that, too. >> gretchen: let's move on -- >> he's an opportunist. >> gretchen: let's move on to the middle east discussion because i know you've been there a lot. you know a lot of the central figures. netanyahu and abbas speak at the united nations today, the prime minister of israel and leader of the palestinians. you have had some exclusive interviews on this. >> right. the first one is addressed to governor perry. governor perry said three very dramatic points about the current controversy about the palestinians seeking statehood in the u.n. he said that the obama policy toward the middle east was appeasement of the palestinians. he said that there was no -- >> steve: he who? >> rick perry said that obama's policy toward the middle east was appeasement of the palestinians. he said the palestinian move to get this election for statehood in the united nations was aggression and he said there was no moral equivalent between the suffering of palestinians and the suffering of israelis, that the israeli, you know, pain and suffering and all this is far more profound and relevant. those are my words, but they characterize what governor perry said. this is what the chief palestinian negotiator who i have known for over 30 years said about governor perry's statement. >> the governor of texas yesterday, i couldn't believe what i'm hearing. he's saying that it's not moral to equate israelis with palestinians? if this man is visiting pakistan and gaza, who is he serving? what he's saying is that for years to come in the hands of extremist. weigh the consequences of what you're saying. >> he's saying governor perry's statement could help fuel extremism. the other interview i had is with the former prime minister of israel and i mentioned the special election, congressional district 9 in brooklyn and queens in new york in which the republican defeated the democrat as a message to obama on his israeli policy. so i said, is obama really that bad on the -- is obama an enemy of israel? is he an appeaser of the palestinians and here is what the israeli defense minister said, thinking fearful that i might cut out his answer, here is what he said. >> you know, we are in -- i always speak to what i believe is the truth of the matter. a u.s. is a friend of israel. to step in at the price of losing the perception of being fully even handed with the palestinians, i can tell you this administration, obama's administration is backing israel in defense and security issues in a way which is probably unprecedented. so i don't think that we can honestly criticize the president. >> brian: 9% of the israeli public approves of president obama. so i don't know what he's referring to. >> well, a member of the cabinet, he is the most decorated war hero in israel's history and he's saying that president obama -- remember, this is coming on the heels of president obama's united nations speech in which he really was totally pro-israel. he abandoned his own position, it seemed to me, of being more even handed and as if he was reacting to the election out in district number 9. >> brian: what do you think will happen today? you know that he's going to ask for -- looks like he's going to ask -- >> i can't predict what will happen. i know that the palestinians have finally decided after all these years that they have nothing to lose and that the united states, i think, is losing whatever status it had as a legitimate peace maker here and -- >> gretchen: why do you say that? why is the united states losing its status? >> because the united states has tried enormously, gretchen, to try to prevent what's happening today in the united nations. the united states has said, please, trust us. please, we'll get negotiations going. please, give us another weeks, months, some time to get this thing resolved and the palestinians have finally said, listen, we're not going to wait anymore. >> gretchen: does that have anything to do with the current administration seemingly to be more pro-palestinian so that the palestinians now going to take that risk? >> i can certainly understand how people can make that assumption, that the president last year in his idealistic speech, a very grandiose said a year from now, we can have an agreement, but he overpromised and underdelivered. i think you could certainly make that argument that president obama helped precipitate this, but the palestinians clearly have said to the united states now, forget it. you're controlled by your own elected officials. we're not going to trust the united states. we're going ahead and i think they will at least get enhanced observer status like the vatican and the united nations. >> steve: geraldo, always delivers and he will this weekend. we'll be watching your program. >> thank you. >> steve: have abode weekend. >> gretchen: coming up, rick perry and mitt romney trading nasty jabs. it might be entertaining, but two people on our panel say the fighting will doom them both. >> brian: making fun of customers on youtube probably won't get you a raise at work. but should it get you fired? 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we continue now with the panel, angela, tony schaefer, and christopher. chris, you're the democrat on this panel. this has been called obama's enron. it does not sound good. >> i don't think it's as bad as enron. my major problem with this whole debauchle with solyndra is the way the white house political operation pushed this forward without really protecting the president and the program. >> steve: was it a dumb idea to give them the money in the first place! >> well, that may be true. >> steve: it is true! >> it represents 1% of the loan loans. >> steve: it's half a billion dollars! >> this is double trouble, solyndra and lightsquared. remember candidate obama? i'm going to clean up washington, d.c this represents lobbying, campaign contributions and paybacks at its best and at the hearing today, even though the executives will plead the fifth, it's playing out. >> the government officials didn't do due diligence either by design. they were either forced to go by or they were just totally forced by the white house to do it or else they're incompetent. they did not follow their oath of office. >> steve: the "new york times" writes that in a rush to help slip vertebra, the administration missed a lot of warning signs and ultimately it comes down to trust. we send our money to washington. we trust that they're going to spend it right and they're going to investigate. chris, they blew it. >> in a rush to get the first loan approved within 60 days, the political operation said let's go full steam ahead. they did not look out for the program. >> steve: but they don't separate, these are the policy people. these are the political people. it's the white house. >> bottom line, the gop has been looking for a reason to call obama out on something like this. >> you know what? they found it. >> they gave it to him. i agree, they should have been more careful. >> federal spending and you have people that don't have jobs? i know folks in mississippi that could use $500,000. >> lightsquareed issue, to me -- the white house can't legislate science and the bottom line is this, you're taking bandwidth, which is allocate for a certain person. and you can screw with not only the military, but trucks and everything else. >> steve: all right. let's let the engineers figure it out. great debate today. >> thank you. >> steve: next up, he was asking the questions at the debate. chris wallace joins us live after the break. and this video made these heros famous on youtube and now they're back on american soil and their first stop, "fox & friends." you'll see them. the u.s. air force band sidewinder here to perform, they're reporting for duty. ♪ [ male announcer ] heard this one? listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us. yesterday doesn't win. big doesn't win. titles corner offices don't win. what wins? 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[ laughter ] that's one. gary johnson's dogs are the other. >> if governor romney would throw out his jobs growth plan and replace it with 9-9-9, he has a shot. if he does not, i would probably go with speaker gingrich who i have the greatest admiration for in all seriousness, because of his history and because of his depth of not only. i could go on because i have respect for everybody up here. but it's a game. >> i'm tempted to say when all is said and done, the two guys standing in the middle aren't going to be around because they're going to bludgeon each other to death. >> brian: chris wallace, great job last night. you watched that debate. they actually ended on a fun note. that was the fun note. overall, what did you think of the format, the way google and you guys wove in the questions from the people as well as your own? >> you know, i was a little bit skeptical at the beginning, the reporters, you think we want to ask all the questions. i actually think it worked great. we added a little democracy to the debate and they asked -- you asked. we got 18,000 questions. a lot of questions that we wouldn't have had the wit to ask. and a lot -- not the sort of fancy stuff and process stuff and you said this, but that conflicts with that. it was kind of core principles about the states aren't -- the feds aren't enforcing our immigration rules. should the states do it, the tenth amendment and giving the states more power and not letting the federal government overrun things. i think it really, really worked well. my guess is that it was kind of a revolution and you're not going to see any debate where just the panelist is going to seem tired. >> steve: and at one point, rick santorum was going back and forth with somebody else on the stage. rick santorum wanted a little more time and you, being the rule keeper, had to stand your ground and you got in a funny. let's replay that. >> can you answer the question? >> you know, you asked your question. he gave his answer, sir. sometimes we're frustrated with all of you answering questions. [ laughter ] >> steve: that's very funny and it's true. you ask a question, sometimes they don't even come close to answering it. >> it's one of the most frustrating things about a debate because i can't tell you the amount of fun that brett and megyn and i spent trying to hone these questions and make them airtight and the fact is under the rules, you get to ask the question and they then get a minute, uninterrupted, to answer the question and sometimes any resemblance between the question and the answer is purely coincidental. >> gretchen: exactly. at this point i want to bring you back to 2008 because i think this is fascinating to look at who the top three were amongst republicans back then at this time. rudy guiliani had 28% of the vote. fred thompson had 23%. john mccain, who ended up being the nominee, only had 15%. you've been doing this a long time, chris. what do you make of that with regard to the current crop of candidates we saw from the stage last night? >> well, i think that perry and romney are legitimate front runners and if i had to bet, i would bet that one of them will end up being the nominee. i think your point is very well taken, gretchen. and that is, guess what? we are months away from the first vote being cast in late january or early february in iowa when they decide to hold the caucus. and the fact is, and wisely so, the pundits, the polls don't get to decide it. the people get to decide it. and that's one of the reasons i'm glad we're continuing to show aid or in this case -- eight or nine candidates because i don't think we should be in a position of win knowing the field and say that person isn't a legitimate candidate, they are at least until the voting starts. >> brian: you have david plouffe on this weekend, we haven't talked about the president in a while. we've been talking about the candidates. i imagine he's going to fire back over what you've seen and also try to defend the president's jobs plan which democrats are rejecting. >> well, that's exactly right. i think we're really going to focus on the president unveiled his jobs plan, what, two weeks ago, and then earlier this week, his deficit reduction plan and you're exactly right, it is being rejected not only by republicans, but a lot of democrats. he came in saying, i'm not going to have any budget gimmicks. this is going to be straight talk, straight accounting. one of the things that a lot of people are questioning is he claims a trillion dollars in savings because we're not going to prosecute the wars in iraq and afghanistan for the next ten years. well, you know, we all knew that. it's like saying, brian, you're not going to buy a rolls royse this weekend, so you're going to save $250,000. with your salary, maybe you will. >> brian: i make so much money, i don't know where it goes. >> steve: luckily i'm a little off. >> brian: and i want to pay more taxes. >> steve: chris, have is a great weekend. we'll be watching. >> thank you, guys. >> brian: meanwhile, we have more news. chris, jot this down. while you were sleeping, the father-in-law of missing utah woman susan cox powell was arrested. he's accused of having sexually explicit images of her on his computer and that's not all. the arrest video just in to fox. police say they found thousands of images of other women and minors being photographed without them knowing. susan's husband, josh, lives with his father and is repeatedly been questioned about her disappearance. but never charged. >> gretchen: in other news, she was kidnapped and held captive for 18 years. maui see dugard suing the federal government. she says parole officers could have prevented her nightmare had they kept better tabs on people. they came to the home lots of times and never saw her. she will give any money she's awarded to a charity that helps victims like herself. >> steve: prisoners who are executed in the state of texas will no longer get a final meal of their choosing. the state ended the practice after lawrence brewer, picture right there, who was executed for the dragging death of james byrd requested two steaks, triple bacon cheeseburger, pound of barbecue, fajitas and a pint of ice cream and in the end, he ate none of it. >> gretchen: crazy. >> brian: he's in a lot of trouble. a barrista in trouble after posting this. ♪ cappuccinos take a long time to make ♪ ♪ it's just a cup of coffee ♪ give me a break ♪ i shouldn't have to put up with this ♪ ♪ . >> brian: he took out his frustrating day at work, but venting his frustrations didn't sit well with the bosses. they fired him. expresso. >> steve: all right. let's take a look at the weather today and up in seattle, the home of starbucks and little rain. a lot of rain all the way from the great lakes up through the new england states, down through the mid atlantic and portions of dixieland. right now damp and some thunderstorms moving through portions of georgia. current readings, a lot of 40s and 50s. 60s and 70s across the east. current lease it's 57 in dallas-fort worth. dallas later today will crank it up to 87. it will be 20 degrees hotter than that in phoenix, arizona. and 77 today in raleigh. that's your fox travelcast for this friday. >> brian: you've seen the video. these heros were something else besides fighting for or freedom. listen. ♪ >> brian: all the way from afghanistan, the united states air force band sidewinder here live to perform. >> gretchen: and he was thrown in jail for his role -- ♪ >> gretchen: that's just a taste of it. they were thrown in jail for watergate scandal. now he's preaching to others to do the right thing. his story after this break, and sidewinder. >> brian: sidewinder is in new york and so is our weekend crew. >> that's right. that little clip is what i wake up to in the morning. ♪ new york ♪ . >> wow! >> coming up this weekend on the show, someone who knows something about debates, he's been in many of them. governor mike huckabee who ran for president is going to grade the republican candidates on ou our show this weekend. >> the obama administration's bill is driving up the cost of public school lunches. are the healthier choices worth the higher price? 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[ kristy ] she's definitely not like other moms. yeah, my mom is pretty weird. ♪ ♪ hush, little baby ♪ don't you cry ♪ soon the sun ♪ is going to shine ♪ [ male announcer ] toyota presents the prius family. ♪ walk if i want, talk if i want ♪ [ male announcer ] there's the original one... the bigger one... the smaller one... and the one that plugs in. they're all a little different, just like us. >> gretchen: welcome back. he was the first member of the nixon administration to be busted for watergate. but from behind bars, he found god. and credits christianity for turning his life around. he's now trying to start a national revolution focused on ethics. joining me now with his story is former aide to president nixon, chuck colson, good morning to you. >> good morning, gretchen. good to be with you. >> gretchen: i know that if you could go back in time, you would have done things a little bit differently. but that was before you had found christianity. is that what totally changed your life? >> yeah. jesus christ changed my life and i've never been the same since. i've been working in the prisons for 35 years and what i've seen, gretchen, is the complete moral breakdown. crime caused by people making wrong choices. so i have a passion now for this doing the right thing and we're starting a movement, a grassroots movement starting this weekend in 350 locations across america, a video series that we've launched which is good for schools and churches and families. we did it at princeton last year. it's a game changer. if people start watching this and doing what we're suggesting in this movement we started, you're going to see a change in the moral values of america. i think all of us would agree that we're in the middle of a complete moral breakdown. ethics is the way things are supposed to be, but we've lost that. >> gretchen: it's interesting to listen to you because a lot of people feel like when people go to prison, maybe they can't be rabbited, they can't change their ways and then they see somebody like you and the work that you're doing and maybe they have a different tune about it. right? >> i've had a blessing from god because i've seen thousands of lives transformed in the prisons and most of those -- many of those people are out working doing the same thing i'm doing. that's why this is a grassroots movement. that's why we have so many people working with us, because they know what the underside of life is like. they know what doing the wrong thing ends up with and they want to start doing the right thing. you can't have freedom in a society unless virtue flourishes. you have to build people of character and so i'm really devoting these years of my life to promote this idea that we can inculcate character in people. the government can't do it. it has to be a grassroots movement. the government is stuck. they're causing the problem. it isn't solving it. so we really have to get busy as people and learn what conscience is, learn what character is, learn it in our families. >> gretchen: i think so many people would be interested in your movement. so how can they hear this? how do they get involved? >> they can go tomorrow to one of 300 and some locations across the country. doing the right thing event.com. and they can come. all across the country, it's wide open. people can just go, listen to the discussion that robbie george and i and many others are going to have during this simulcast which takes place at 9:30 tomorrow morning eastern time. we will have opportunities for people to see it and then you can get the video series actually. it's thousands of them have been sold this year because it's such a pressing need and it's being shown in schools, in families. you can get that at the same web site or doing the right thing.com. >> gretchen: we'll link it to our web site as well. you're originally known as the hatchet man and now man, you're doing good work out there. great to speak with you this morning. thank you so much. >> thank you so much for having me, gretchen. god bless you and your work. >> gretchen: thank you. they became a youtube sensation when this video hit youtube. ♪ united states air force band, sidewinder, home from afghanistan and rocking out with "fox & friends" this morning. first let's check in with bill hemmer. >> in a moment here, the morning after the big debate, karl rove on the winners and losers from last night. we'll get his take. governor gary johnson, the newcomer on the stage is here to talk more than just about his neighbor's dog. also is the government headed for a shutdown? is all that talk on capitol hill bluster? the markets are in the gutter. we'll figure out what it means for your retirement and these executives from solyndra on the hot seat in congress. will they talk? we'll find out together when martha and i join you in 11 minutes here on "america's newsroom." even ragu uss chose prego. prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made? 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