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this program and been here a couple of times. he has a new program out where he goes out and does different things including riding in a sidecar on a motorcycle for 1500 miles with some guys on harleys. it's fantastic. he'll be here live. >> that's a guy who was retired on "full house" by the way. keep busy -- >> let er ride! >> keep the bugs in his teeth. senator joe lieberman hasn't been here in a while. he was law he was lauded in george bush's book. one on one with gretchen carlson and christine o'donnell. >> check out the picture of the last guest we'll have on the show today. mama rock, a.k.a. flowers, a 69-year-old d.j. who is a hugely popular force. >> there's the spinning materials right there. o'reilly may say the spin stops here. right there, it starts later on today on our wednesday telecast live from new york. >> now, your headlines. wikileaks founder julian assange landing a spotted on the most wanted list. they're issuing a warrant for his arrest now. he's accused of raping one woman and sexually assaulted another in sweden. we knew about those charges, right? now this is the latest. he could face espionage charges in the united states for dumping secret government documents on wikileaks. assange's whereabouts are unknown at this time. magazines continue to find him for interviews. records revealing disturbing new details in the case of zahra baker. unsealed search warrants indicate that the 10-year-old girl's body was likely dismembered in her family's bathtub. can hardly read this story. it shows she may have been attacked by two men who knew her stepmother. when police asked baker if she hurt her during a polygraph, she apparently showed deception. estimated two million americans will lose their unemployment benefits today after lawmakers failed to approve a last minute extension. both republicans and democrats said they were open to extending benefits but not if it means adding to the nearly $14 trillion debt. the fed expects the unemployment rate to hover continually around 9% for all of next year as well. the comic book artist behind beloved characters like jug head and g.i. joe has died. he died at his connecticut home of bone cancer. he came to the u.s. from italy going to work for the predecessor of marvel comics after training stan goldberg, he joined him at archie comics becoming one of america's most prolific artists. he was 81 years old. and those are your headlines. >> ok. yesterday morning, the much balan ballyhooed slurpee kicked it was owe white house at 10:30 in the morning. did anything happen? no. actually, the most concrete thing they decided on is they would have another meeting and the president of the united states appointed a couple of guys from his cabinet to go ahead and try to figure out some sort of negotiation and some sort of compromise. the white house really had a lid on the coverage. as you can see, they sent out a couple of pictures. there was no video spray. >> so was this a setup for taking president obama out of the mix here? was this a setup for saying hey, here i'm going to show bipartisanship and i'm going to appoint these two guys to really take over and do the dirty work? come on, the president and his administration know where they stand on these tax cuts, folks! just tell us. just tell us what you're gonna do instead of having meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting. >> meanwhile, here's the president yesterday talking about the meeting and where we're heading with the number one issue on his agenda. >> the american people did not vote for gridlock. they didn't vote for unyielding partisanship. they're demanding cooperation and they're demanding progress and they'll hold all of us and i mean all of us accountable for it. >> stopping all the looming tax hikes and cutting spending would in fact create jobs and get the economy moving again and so while looking forward to the conversation with the white house over extending all of the current rates and i remain optimistic. >> here's why i'm a little optimistic. i thought it was very interesting the president went out of his way and robert gibbs confirmed he'll be joining us later, over the last two years, he apologized and eric can'tor confirmed and said i didn't reach out enough and i'll look to do that and instead of turning that around and saying harry reid and nancy pelosi, take it from here. he called up his treasury secretary and his omb director and said i wanted you to sit down and hammer out a deal with john kyle and representative dave kemp, ways and means chair, come out with something when it comes to extending bush tax cuts. it comes down to extending every for two years. >> three years. >> or the geraldo rivera plan which he better get credit for which is taxing people who make over a million dollars. >> my point is, maybe i'm on the side of a lot of the american voters who came out during the elections who say enough of this dancing around. just do something! just do something! people are so tired about the way washington works and this committee and just like the debt commission that are supposed to come out with a report that they've been working on for three years, it's not coming out until friday. everybody knows where we stand. let's come up with a plan. >> the president is right there. he faced the cameras afterward and he could have simply said, you know what? at the end this month, the taxes on millions of americans are going to go up unless we do something. i'm going to compromise right now. let's extend it two years. let's extend it three years. whatever. he could have done it right then but as "the wall street journal" writes today, says -- they write and talk about how the president of the united states has joined dead enders, they refer to nancy pelosi as, as somebody who simply would not compromise. in fact, a lot of people are saying why wasn't nancy pelosi involved in this sort of let's make a deal thing? is it because she did so well on the last thing he asked her to do. >> last night, steven hayes who a columnist and frequent guest on "special report with bret baier" he weighed in on those exact thoughts. >> when he did the stimulus, when he did health care, he delegated to people in congress. this time as charles points out he did not do that and i think this gives him space, this gives him some distance from nancy pelosi, from harry reid who cannot enter these kind of negotiations and say, well, ok, we're open to this kind of compromise. nancy pelosi won't do that. she doesn't believe it and can't do it. >> they were at the table for the white house and they can say owned we can look at this and on the other hand, we can look at this. it gives this kind of space that charles is referring to. >> nancy pelosi's role, steven hayes right on the money essentially because her role will be for the next two years as minority leader as, yeah, minority leader in the house will be to reign in president obama who many fear on the democratic side will be too willing to compromise with republicans. she'll be coming down with the hammer. >> yep. yesterday, it was not nancy pelosi who had the hammer as the acting speaker of the house, it was democrat laura richardson and she was presiding over the house and indiana representative steve byer who has served 18 years in the u.s. congress, guy right there from indiana, he asked for the floor to yield. so he could do a little talking about what they were talking about. i think it was the food safety act. extraordinarily, the acting speaker of the house would not yield to congressman buyer and that prompted this eruption. >> the chairman is not here to present the bill, shouldn't we go to the next bill and it would therefore withdraw this bill? >> will suspend. the gentleman has not been recognized. >> i ask to be recognized. i ask you to address the house for one minute. i don't even see anyone on the floor to object, madam speaker. it's within your discretion. there is no one here to object. this is why the american people have thrown you out of power! >> ouch. see, the way the house works is you have to be recognized by the chair and she would not recognize him even though there was nobody else who was objecting to him talking about this. he eventually got a minute and he said wow. >> thanks so much. and he said no wonder i'm leaving after 18 years. he's through. >> crazy. >> today could be the day of reckoning for charles rangel. the house ethics committee expected to bring the censure resolution to the floor today. julie kirtz is in washington, d.c. with the very latest. good morning. >> this is a dramatic moment on the floor of the house could happen today. rangel is facing the most serious discipline possible in congress short of being kicked out. he needs to overcome a 9-1 vote over the ethics committee which is recommending censure for his financial and fundraising violations including failure to pay taxes. now, a censure, if you don't know would require one of the most senior members of the house to appear at the front of the chamber, the house chamber you saw in that last story called the well and have the resolution read by the speaker of the house. he also faces a loss of some of his perks as a member of congress if and when that happens today, rangel is expected to argue for a lesser reprimand and some of his colleagues will support him including democratic whip james clyburn. >> the violations that he admitted to or that he reaches that censure would be in order. republic reprimand i thought was more appropriate. >> here's another interesting thing. rangel had others ready to defend him, if needed, during his ethics trial last month, the one he walked out if you remember. according to documents released by the house ethics committee yesterday, donald trump was prepared to testify on rangel's behalf. today, the full house is close to deciding whether rangel will face a censure for ethical misconduct. >> all right, julie. thanks. we'll be watching and carrying it live. all right, the wikileaks revelations, tens of thousands of pages are out there. how do you break it down? here's a topic i think we should focus on. how different certain regimes and dare i say dictatorships have a public face and a private face. what they say to us behind closed doors and what they say to the world totally different when you look at yemen, saudi arabia, egypt, their view, for example, of iran is very much like ours. but you never believe it by what they say publicly. that was pointed out by the former secretary -- assistant secretary of state on that show the steven colbert report. >> like in the case of yemen and you probably will agree with this one, if we're going to -- >> don't count on it. >> we're going to be able to use military force against an al-qaida cell in yemen and the yemeni government says we can't tell our people that you do it, the united states, we're going to say we're going to do it. so we may need to have that conversation privately if oni wikileaks is going to put it all over the world. maybe next time the yemeni government won't be so willing to let us take out the terrorists inside yemen. >> that's the down side of those cables being brought to the forefront. good side is what the u.s. says in these cables is what they tell the american people. that makes them look better than some of the other countries. >> we'll talk about some of the fallout from hillary clinton, because assange says she should quit. >> like we should listen to him. >> she's in an important mission in kazakhstan. >> indeed. you saw it here, president bush's first thoughts when he hears his brother's name. >> jeb bush. >> should be running for president and is not. >> why not? >> you need to ask him. hey, look -- >> we will ask him. former florida governor jeb bush standing by live with us. >> we leaked out our first question. and unions are furious with president obama for freezing wages of federal workers. is he making a costly mistake? dick morris, former advisor to president clinton is up next. >> yesterday, president obama announced a two-year pay freeze for all federal employees. you know what that means? now when the tsa sticks his hand down your pocket, he'll be looking for spare change, too. i can't believe i used to swing ov those rocks... took some foolish risks as a teenager. but i was still taking a foolish risk with my cholesterol. anyone with high cholesterol may be at increased risk of heart attack. diet and exercise weren't enough for me. i stopped kidding myself. i've been eating healthier, exercising more... and now i'm also taking lipitor. if you've been kidding yourself about high cholesterol...stop. along with diet, lipitor has been shown to lower bad cholesterol 39% to 60%. lipitor is fda approved to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke in paents who have heart disease or risk factors for heart disease. 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because if he doesn't, i think he's just going to drive the economy way further down even if he only succeeds in increasing the taxes of those making more than $250,000. the polling suggests, brian, that this country has changed and we now understand that a tax increase on anybody is bad for everybody. >> right, we know that he's now dealing in a different situation now. we'll see what happens in the next two weeks. >> i think he's going to fold. >> right. ok. dick, stay right there. i can't tease that answer. you just gave it. but coming up next, dick sticks around and we talk wikileaks. we want to know one thing, does wikileaks prove that hillary clinton was trying to blackmail world leaders. will she actually resign? and a high school football player punished for this, kneeling down for a prayer. we'll report, you decide. know the stain. after an alpaca? i have. it was awesome. ♪ call 1-800-steemer [ male announcer ] don't let aches and pains in the morning slow you down. introducing bayer am. its dual-action formula delivers extra strength pain relief, plus it fightsatigue. so get up and get going with new bayer am, the morning pain reliever. >> got some headlines for you on this wednesday morning. 22 people are hurt after greyhound bus rear ended a truck filled with logs. it happened on interstate 85 near charleston, south carolina and took rescue workers two hours to get the driver out of the truck. meanwhile, the trial for elizabeth smart's kidnapper is expected to resume today in utah. yesterday, the defendant, brian david mitchell had to be removed from the courtroom on a stretcher after suffering an apparent seizure. >> lot of people have been taking heat for the latest wikileaks document dump including secretary of state hillary clinton. yesterday, the wikileaks founder told "time" magazine if it can be shown she was responsible for ordering u.s. diplomatic figures to engage in espionage in the united nations in violation of the international covenants to which the u.s. has signed up, she should resign over that. some say she's accusations show another side of hillary and according to dick morris, this sin the first time we've seen it. so dick, what do you make of this? i want to start by saying that condaleeza rice did the same thing in her position as secretary of state so it's not like it's something new to be getting information on foreign diplomats and such. >> it's something brand new. condi did it for one year and hillary continued it. it's bad for condi and bad for hillary if either of them run for president again, condi isn't but hillary will. it should be brought up and we should remember that. hillary clinton is the one who pioneered the idea of hiring private detectives in political campaigns to dig up dirt on the women who were complicated in having been involved with bill clinton so they could be blackmailed with the info and put into silence. that's all a matter of documented fact. now she's up to the same tricks at the state department. she's not collecting this information for her scrapbook. she's collecting it so she can find information which the united states and she can use to coerce foreign leaders. your frequent flier miles and your amex card say you took a trip to the caribbean that time and you may have told your family they were in brussels. would they like to know that? that's kind of the technique the communists used in eastern europe. >> are you saying assange is right? she should resign? >> no, i don't think it's a resigning offense but i sure do think it's a bad one. i want to comment on something gretchen said before i came on about the wikileaks showing that we're doing in private what we're doing in public. to me, the big thing in these wikileaks is the revelation of the vice president of afghanistan brought $50 million. he got it from drugs, where else does he get that cash? it's the surest proof that we have that this government is being used to keep in power a regime that is directly participating in the narco trade. >> in my defense, we have discussed that in other days when the documents have come out. >> don't get up that early all the time, gretch. >> we were discussing in detail. >> i missed you sometimes. >> the difference between how dictators talk to their people and how the u.s. government talks to their people. we were taking one tiny slice of the pie. >> going forward, if this guy is able to bring out all these government secrets and he walks, how bad does that make the united states look? >> well, i think it tells anybody that they can -- that they can't tell the united states anything without getting it published. i think we have to realize, though, that the united states is by far, far, far the freest press in the world. in britain and in europe, you criticize a politician or political figure, you can be sued for libel just as easily as if you criticize a public person. that doesn't happen in the united states and i'm reluctant to go crazy about this issue. as far as i'm concerned, it's pretty darned important that we learned that the vice president of a country we're propping up to the tune of $100 billion a year with $50 million in cash either of our money or drug money, i'm glad i know that. >> and saudi arabia rich people are still the number one financiers of al-qaida. that's also -- >> pretty mad about all that and glad that i know it. >> all right, dick. thanks so much. glad you got up for us. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> all right. straight ahead, a high school football player punished for a small prayer of thanks after a big touchdown. is that right? 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police say they no longer believe the children are alive. he was released from the hospital following the suicide attempt and taken into f.b.i. custody. there he is. his children, 9-year-old andrew, 6-year-old alexander and 5-year-old tanner pictured there have been missing since thursday. search crews will continue searching an area near the michigan-ohio border where he claims he left the kids. police say his motivation was looming divorce and a bitter custody battle. >> new pictures show the aftermath of bizarre pool accident at a high school in wisconsin. a 17-year-old was sucked through the viewing window of the pool when it shattered and police just releasing the 911 call from another student after the teacher jumped in to help. >> i'm calling from the high school. the gym teacher went into the water, i guess the window is broke down there. >> the teacher suffered minor cuts and bruises. the student's condition still not being released. brian? >> sports and religion collide at a high school football game. here we go. ronnie hasting is a running back in washington. after scoring a touchdown, as you see here, he dropped to a knee. like we see so many times and thanks god and the refs flag him for unsportsmanlike conduct. a 15 yard penalty for talking to his maker. he's been doing this all season long, he says. > >> i've done it every game and then i got flagged for it. >> the rules state a player can't draw attention to himself during celebrations. they went on to beat east valley 63-27. hasting says the next time he scores a touchdown, he will pray by the rules. >> he's praying up. he's not going like that. >> i guess some people dunk over the, you know, over the uprights and other people point to god. >> different ways of showing celebration. let's take a look at what's going on in the weather on this wednesday and take a look. powerful storms rip through mississippi. and move into alabama on tuesday causing major damage to houses and ripping large trees out of the ground. six people suffered minor injuries. that's one of the big trees. fortunately, no deaths have been reported. a lot of picking up. meanwhile, you can see the storm that moved through that region. it is now marching to the east all the way from new england to the mid atlantic. it looks like actually according to this, it's a little snow on the backside of the system. heavy stuff, though, as you can see all the way from portions of pennsylvania down through the virginias, middle part of the country is nice and dry. meanwhile, the current readings, man, it's cold! kansas city is 22. denver 29. lot of spots under freezing. the temperatures in the 50's and 60's right now here in new york city 57 later today in the big town. it will be 33 in cleveland, ohio and 66 down in tampa, florida. >> today is day two of the national summit on education reform, an annual event that aims to address problems in america's education system. >> and appropriately, one of the major issues on the table is the controversial dream act up for debate during the lame duck session of congress currently under way. >> joining us from the event in washington, d.c., the founder and president of the foundation for excellence in education, former florida governor jeb bush. good morning to you, governor. >> good morning. >> great to have you. let's talk a little bit about the dream act, you know, there have been a lot of people saying they can't possibly jam it through during this lame duck session of congress. and in the meantime, there are a lot of people who say if we were to pass that, essentially, it would offer amnesty to millions and millions of people who are in this country illegally right now. what do you say? >> well, what i say is first of all, it's not really part of what we're here to talk about. we're focused on education reform. >> right, we'll get to that. >> the dream act deals with the, you know, the challenge of a forced border over the last generation of time. we have kids that have come as babies that are graduating from high school that aren't going back to their country of birth, their parents' country of origin that can't move on to college. so -- but the answer to this is to secure the border, to give people confidence that the border is secured and then move towards comprehensive immigration reform. i don't think that will happen in december. >> well, a question about the dream act would be the type of question that you would be asked to respond to if, in fact, you decided to run for president. i know you've said what you've said but i want you to hear -- i want you to hear what your brother, the former president of the united states said about you. >> jeb bush. >> should be running for president and is not. >> why not? >> you need to ask him. i love the guy. he's a great governor of florida. great governor of florida. >> so he says you should run for president. >> what else should he say? >> brotherly love. however, he says that you should run for president but you won't. is he right? >> he didn't take all my advice either. >> and? >> you're ruling it out? >> how many times do i have to do it? i'm not running for president. but i'm happy to talk about education reform with my good friend governor wise. >> you know, that is the perfect introduction because sitting right next to you is bob wise, former governor of west virginia. you guys are down there. tell us what you -- it is day two, things are wrapping up on the national education summit reform down there and governor wise, tell us about how you would like to see the classroom of today become more modernized, use digital stuff that is at our fingertips right now. >> well, that's one of the important -- important measures that's taking place here at the summit that governor bush has organized and will later be rolling out 10 principles of the digital learning council. 10 principles for getting digital learning, using technology effectively in the classroom and providing a road map for governors across the -- across the country, state legislators, policymakers, educators and teachers. and i think it's important the commission that governor bush and i have been co-chairing has roughly over 100 members from education, nonprofit world, philanthropic world, for profit, but everyone knowing that we can make great strides in education improve the student content and be cost effective at the same time through digital learning. >> and governor, could you run us through some of the specific suggestions? for example, on the -- on the digital -- on the digital way, for example, you talk about access to high quality digital content on the on line courses. >> yeah, i mean, the states provide and create restrictions because the laws were created long before digital content was even dreamed about. so eliminating some of the restrictions so that you can bring content in from all around the world to change the certification process for teachers to make sure that there's broadband, we move -- as we move away from textbooks to make sure that the quality of the digital contents, high quality is to the standards. there's a lot of things that need to get done policy wise and this is the way, i think, that you can improve the content of the delivery of education at a lower cost and most states right now realize for the next 10 years they're not going to have additional money. >> the prediction -- one prediction about -- >> governor, i want to get this in. the idea of replacing textbooks with digital content is very progressive. it's a cost saving measure. schools are so strapped right now for cash. >> they are. almost every state budget is tanking. we've got a situation is what i call the general motors moment. we have demand for greater outcomes and yet at the same time, less money. we know that through technology we've seen what happens in other forms of industry and business effective applications of technology and so textbooks over time are going to be replaced by digital devices. the -- but what's important is how we get content to the classroom and how we make the teacher a multiplier. how do we help that teacher get more effective education for their students? >> how do you do that under budget? >> well, again, there are many examples in the rest of life outside of education where you can improve quality at a lower cost embracing technology. right now, technology is kind of a periphery of education. you'll see a computer on the side of this classroom but we've organized our classrooms and our schools just as they were organized in 1950. >> that's right. >> and this is a chance, i think, to reorganize, move to a customized learning environment, student centered where teachers are empowered with this incredible array of new abilities to adapt learning to customize it for students and you can do it at a lower cost. this is not -- >> can i ask you one quick question about the documentary "waiting for superman." i understand both of you saw this and there's been so much tension about the state of our public schools in this kunlt. i know it's near and dear to your heart. so much of this movie was about the stranglehold that the unions have on our public education system. i'd love for both of you to comment on that, if you could. >> real quickly, i saw the movie. it broke my heart. it gets me angry when i see clips of it and it's heartbreaking to see the children are -- whose parents don't have choices, are trapped in failing schools and there's no sense of outrage about it. there are versions of "waiting for superman" all across the country. this is not just in the urban core parts of the united states. and it's tragic. >> governor wise? >> it's an incredible call to action and what we also ought to remember is there are a lot of good teachers out there, too, what we want to do is empower them and make sure that they have the tools that they need in one of the means that we can get higher quality education to all those children and in particularly a lot more that are waiting in line via technology. >> would you say the unions are hurting this process? and hindering the progress governor bush? >> i think in most places, unions are resistant to change. they're focused as they were organized to do on the economic interest of teachers and we need to move to a student centered system. most places unions resist the kind of changes we need to make. >> a student centered system is absolutely critical that the student has to be the center of all of our goals and aspirations. i am seeing some positive movement because i think there's a lot of pressure out there and we want to keep pushing for it. >> all right. governors bush and weiss, thank you both for joining us today from washington, d.c. have a great day and thanks for joining us. >> thank you, guys. >> you bet. >> all right. >> the president's debt commission is ready to release a big list of cuts to get our spending back on track. will lawmakers listen? 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>> gretch, the president's deficit commission is supposed to wrap up on friday but one panel member says there may be a delay in the vote. >> they can't get a vote. this as president obama's summit with the republican leaders kneeled no results yet. is there too much talk and too little action on this economy? charles payne is the ceo of wall street strategies and great host here. charles, no deficit commission conclusions. >> well, they've got conclusions but they're not going to -- they're not going to be pushed forward. in other words, you know, you got two people. they've been in a room. they've hammered this out their way. they've come up with what i guess they think is a pretty good compromise. >> they released information two weeks ago. >> the fact is it's not going to make it to the wide vote and in some ways, it's a shame. you know, listen, i don't agree with everything. i thought they could have actually been bolder to be quite frankly with you. you have two people not up for re-election. let er rip! you know what? go after -- >> right, go for the third row, you know, go for -- talk about medicare. talk about things that we need to have an adult, serious adult conversation. we keep avoiding the tough stuff. >> so things that they have mentioned is, perhaps, eliminating the home mortgage interest deduction. >> all deductions! >> yeah, all deductions as well. >> you know, well, i thought that was not too bad if the top tax rate was 23%. you know? >> when it it's close to 40% -- >> that's what we're talking about now. people have to sit down and figure out, is it worth me only paying 23% at the high end and not having a mortgage deduction? >> i can't afford this house anymore. >> you know what i thought was encouraging is you're saying we need to get more from the rich and we need to cut spending, they're a little imaginative and say we have to cut the corporate tax rate. there was a lot in there. >> that's the most brilliant thing. that's absolutely brilliant. we want to spark this economy. we want this economy to go -- right now, we're in defensive posture and like an amarillo or something, you know, we're like an ostrich. we need to look at how to spark the economy and it starts with freeing up corporations to invest money. >> speaking of businesses all across the country, they were looking to the white house yesterday and maybe that meeting at 10:30 and maybe they'll say we're going to go ahead and extend it for two years or three years. >> we got another mini committee going together. can you believe it? listen, they fiddled while rome burned. these guys are playing dueling banjos. realistically it's amazing less than 30 days away, the president starts every speech that the american people did not vote for gridlock. you have to erase your line in the sand. >> all right. we'll be back here. you'll be back here next week on the couch and we'll be talking about a new deal. it's slightly delayed. >> i'm somewhat optimistic, too. i can't believe anybody would be that crazy to be called leaders of america and let this happen. >> five days not completed and charles yelled to me and it just happened. varney & company he's hosting. guess who you have on? >> this guy is the ultimate trial lawyer, ambulance chaser and a good guy but our audience loves to hate him. >> good. i'm sure he loves to be called an ambulance chaser. >> i'm just ribbing him. he's a good ambulance chaser. he chases them from his helicopter. >> charles, go get em. look forward to watching back and forth. i'll be going between channels. taxpayer dollars being used for this, picture of jesus covered with ants. the artist being pulled. the museum is keeping your money. is this a good use of your dollars? >> don't call it the christmas village. the name has been changed to the holiday village. seriously. we'll reveal who is behind this -- bah humbug. >> not going to be happy. 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>> well, what we're concerned about is this is a museum that gets $5.8 million in taxpayer dollars and in the middle of a high deficit, 15 million unemployed americans, they decide to have money to spend like this. this is a museum that, by the way, has next to it a display of the american president on the other side, elvis and then you go through -- which is really perversed, fixed up ashes of an aids victim in a self-portrait eating himself. male nudity. ellen degeneres grabbing her own breast. lots of really kinky and questionable kind of art. they claim that this is not paid for by tax dollars. yet, this is a public building with publicly paid staff, public heating and air conditioning, if you will. public security so there's no question that taxpayers are subsidizing this and it's no different than the pentagon going out and paying $500 for a hammer or the national park service going out and paying $300,000 for an outhouse that has been done in the past. it's a waste of tax dollars and during these hard budget times, we can't afford it. >> somebody that agrees with you is congressman eric cantor. here's what he said. this is an outrageous use of taxpayer money. taxpayers have the right to expect that the museum will hold up common standards of decency. i understand that private donations actually paid for that specific exhibit which has been taken down. what you're saying is you want to stop the taxpayer funding of just the building itself. what we're saying is if you're going to squander dollars like this when we're looking at a $1.3 trillion deficit, then you're probably wasting a lot of other money and the smithsonian budget just like any other federal agency should be under the magnifying glass right now. we have to find ways to balance the budget. >> how do you answer to this response? usually when these controversies come up, people on the other side say it's art and they're able to hide over with everything by saying it's art. >> i support freedom of expression and i support art. if it is privately funded and they want to show a picture of jesus being eaten by ants and they think at christmastime that's the proper thing to do, then they should do it on their own nickel. not on taxpayer nickel. this is in a public building with public taxpayers funding this exhibit. to say it's privately funded is a joke. >> here's the statement of the director of the national portrait gallery. the artist's intention was to depict the suffering of an aids victim. it was not the museum's intention to offend. we are removing the video. i guess the problem is the aids victim looked just like jesus. >> well i think there was no question who the aids victim we're supposed to look at. this is an exhibit that you can do whatever you want with private dollars. this is public. this is the museum supposed to be bringing us to higher standards of american history. >> all right, congressman jack kingston, good to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks a lot. >> the president talking a lot about tax cuts. is he ignoring the elephant in the room? 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"fox & friends" hour two for wednesday starting right now. >> check out this huge big guest list we have coming up for you. moments away, robert gibbs, spokesperson for president obama will be talking about the tax meeting yesterday and wikileaks. >> one of the funniest and successful guys around, bob saget talking about his new project and laugh a little on our very couch. >> from the world of politics, senator joe lieberman, the independent from connecticut and from delaware, christine o'donnell will be joining us and to wrap things up, d.j.mamy rock. >> is she going to have us all rapping? >> she's a spinner of all sorts of music. she's 69 years old. there's her equipment right there. we're going to have her spinning the platters right here in studio e live on this first day of december. >> if we move back to retirement age, we'll ask robert gibbs, it would be ok with this d.j. to move it up to 70. she doesn't want to retire. >> i see how you're both deflecting the idea that you may have to dance again. >> no! >> coming up at 8:50 this morning. watch it, folks. >> julian assange landing a spot on interpol's most wanted list today. they are issuing a warrant for arrest. he's accused of raping one woman and sexually assaulting another. that apparently happened in sweden. assange could face espionage charges in the u.s. for the latest dumping of secret government documents right now, assange's whereabouts are unknown. more violence in mexico's deadly drug war. a female police chief in the northern mexican town, well, in one of them, she was shot and killed while driving to work. she was just named chief of the police force last month. police say drug traffickers were likely behind the attack. more than 28,000 people have been killed since mexican president calderon declared a war on drug cartels four years ago. americans will lose their unemployment benefits today after last minute extensions failed on capitol hill. both republicans and democrats said they were open to extending the benefits but not if it meant adding to the nearly $14 trillion national debt. federal reserve expects the unemployment rate to hover around 9% for all of next year. the show did not go on for susan boylr. while singing live on "the view" boylr's voice cracked. instead of pushing through, she cut the music short. >> ♪ hear the angels voices o night ♪ >> after boyle stood silently for a few seconds host whoopi goldberg and sheri sheppard rushed over to console her. it's unclear whether she realized the show was being taped live. she retaped the song and aired on the west coast version without any mishaps. >> it sound like they put her in a box. that has to be a little bit of a problem. >> smoke up to her knees. >> and then evidently for the west coast, they cut it out and made her redo it or chose to redo it. >> so there, people in los angeles, now you know what you lost. >> all right. let's talk a little bit about what happened yesterday. the president of the united states in his post shalacking showdown brought over some members of the opposition party and they sat in the roosevelt room and one of the white house photographers took a couple of pictures and essentially we'll give you the highlights. nothing happened. >> don't need to be so vague. >> nothing happened. they couldn't decide something about the tax cuts but instead, they said you know what? let's have another meeting. you're absolutely right. the president did name -- let's go over to the group of six now. did name timothy geitner who runs the treasury and the omb guy to kind of be the key negotiators and then you got, as you can see right there, a couple of senators and some congressmen from each party as well. they're going to try to figure out what to do with the tax cuts thing that expires just in 31 days. >> all right, brian, i know that you see some optimism in coming out of this meeting. i mean, i guess when two sides are so far apart, that the idea that they can actually sit in a room together, i guess that's progress. but for me, i'm a little frustrated that they just can't make a decision. come on. we know what this side thinks and we know what this side thinks. so let's just get it together and make a decision because businesses all across america are waiting for that decision as well as every living, breathing taxpayer. >> well, if you're looking for someone to maybe give a little bit of it, it was the president. congressman eric cantor tells us what happened. >> yeah, i was encouraged by the president's remarks regarding his, perhaps, not having reached out enough to us in the last session. and that this meeting was the beginning of a series in which we could work together in a different fashion for the benefit of the american people given the problems that we face. >> they had 33 minutes where they were saying let's go into another room. no note takers. no staffers and let's try to hammer something out and you know that's where the real substance took place or the groundwork was set and the lame duck congress has to end so we're going to get a lot of answer to these questions on the tax cuts and then we'll have two options. republicans are not going to -- no one is going to let everything lapse and the republicans are not going to budge on the upper tax rates. >> here is the thing. the president by appointing tim geitner and jack to be charge of these meetings is taking himself out of the equation. there's a political reason for that and that's what has so many people, i think, frustrated. he's taking himself out because he wants to remain close to his base so it really won't be on him if, in fact, they extend the tax cuts to everyone. >> that could be true. could you also say it's encouraging that nancy pelosi is not involved and she's the one by -- >> she's the minority leader now. >> right, but she's a democratic leader, temporarily so the speaker, and she was the one who told rahm emanuel, we're going for everything when it comes to health care. >> sure, that so-called group of six now is going to be meeting again today and today also could be the day of reckoning for charlie rangel. julie kirtz is joining us live. is today the day they're going to censure him or could something else be in the cards for mr. rang snerangel? >> it looks like that's going to happen today. we just don't know when. if it does, the house does vote to censure rangel, it will mark the first time that the house have censured a member of congress since 1983. it is the most serious discipline possible in congress short of being kicked out. the ethics committee in a 9-1 vote is recommending censure for rangel's financial and fundraising violations including, as you know, failure to pay taxes. now, a censure would require one of the most senior members of congress, rangel to appear at the front of the chamber called the well. and have that resolution read by the speaker of the house. he also faces a loss of some of his perks but not his pay or pension. rangel continues to argue for a lesser punishment and some of his colleagues will support him when it's time to vote including democratic whip james clyburn. >> the violations that he's admitted to or that egregious a censure would be in order. reprimand i thought was more appropriate. >> by the way, guys, rangel had others ready to defend him if needed during his ethics trial last mochlt the trial he walked out of. according to documents released bit ethics committee, donald trump was prepared to testify on rangel's behalf. and again, today, the full house is poised to censure charlie rangel two years after he referred himself to the ethics committee in an effort to clear his own name. >> how did that go? >> not a good move. >> all right, julie. thank you very much. >> interesting. >> very curious that donald trump would be, perhaps, on the docket considering the fact that he's famous for saying "you're fired". you're fired. >> and even the president wanted charlie rangel to fire himself. and step aside. but i also thought it was very interesting that donald trump could actually be the next president. he may have to deal with charlie rangel. >> if in fact he decides to run. let's tell you what else is going on with the lame duck congress. on the agenda today is the 4.5 billion child nutrition bill and the debate on the new temporary spending bill. that will be a continuing resolution. but there was one senator yesterday who got caught up with that pesky little open mike. colorado senator michael bennett. he just said this about the whole process of a lame duck congress. >> it's all rigged. i mean, the whole conversation is rigged. the conversation with the fact that we don't get to discuss anything before the break about what we're going to do and what ends up, it's just rigged. >> it's all rigged so there you have senator michael bennett. his chief of staff immediately came out and said, look he's been saying that all along. that it is rigged against having a real conversation about tax cuts, state tax and defense authorization during the lame duck. >> right. >> nothing new. show's over with. >> all right 9 minutes after the top of the hour. holidays are back and so are -- >> did you say the holidays? >> the holidays are back. >> don't you mean the christmas season? >> the holiday season is here! >> today is the first day of hanukkah. >> true. >> and some people are outraged that we're not saying it is christmastime. that we're saying holiday time. and once again, a town has shifted gears. >> i think what people get so upset about is when something has already been named christmas something like in this case in philadelphia, named the christmas village for years and years and years and years and years. and then suddenly, why would they suddenly change the name to the holiday village? when it's been the christmas village for all those years. >> three years ago, they built a german christmas village there on the grounds of city hall -- >> and sang in german. >> exactly right. they try to depict what goes on in germany where people have shops and stuff like that and extraordinarily, in the last week or so, they took down the word christmas and they're going to put up holiday. currently, it just says village. anyway, here's the guy who was behind the name change, the managing director, richard negren. >> now jewish vendors and muslim vendors in the village, it's more accurate and makes more sense. more in keeping with the spirit of the holiday. it's called holiday village. >> by the end of it, his voice is cracking. i don't know if this is a good idea. here's what they say. the city of great diversity, one shouldn't be surprised there's a difference of views when it comes to symbols and words. >> know we're not going to celebrate anything. the christmas village organizer said this. the whole concept of christmas markets in germany is about joy, fun and entertainment and not a place for religious conflict. we want to invite everybody no matter what their culture believes to join our winter wonderland. we're following the tradition of german christmas markets. that's why the event will keep the name christmas village in philadelphia. >> right. in the brochures and in the pamphlets. meanwhile, for 70 years down in tulsa, oklahoma, they have had their christmas parade of lights. couple of years ago, two years ago, they said we're going to change it for christmas creative lights to holiday parade of lights and the senator from that state said you know what? i'm going to boycott until they change it back. i don't like it. i'm not coming. >> then he voted against earmarks and voted to keep earmarks in. >> i think that's unrelated. >> pretty sure. 12 minutes after the top of the hour. everybody talking about tax cuts but this high level meeting turning out to be more like a high priced dog and pony show to some. which side had the upper hand and which decide would actually get things done? we have a political panel to weigh in next. >> grandfather showing some tough love. could you call the cops on your own granddaughter if you found out she was behind a high priced heist? >> tough. 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ok. very good. so it was a big bag of nothing. >> it was a process meeting. and i don't think anybody should have expected -- >> process meeting. we wanted something done. this is washington. >> this is a process meeting so they agreed to have another meeting. look at the state department. this would be considered a great victory. >> professor? >> yeah, no, it's kind of like the beer summit, they came, they drank and they left. it was no better than the beer summit. nothing happened then. nothing happened yesterday. >> well, although the president did name two people, geitner and lew from his cabinet to try to, you know, wrangle to use that word. >> no pun intended. >> some sort of compromise out of the congress. >> look, i think that there's going to be bipartisanship and i think president obama and the republicans -->> the president has not been bipartisan so far. >> he's going to have to start because independents are the prize voter in 2012 and they want to see the parties work together. they want to see something that gets done. you cannot have legislative gridlock for the next two years. >> yeah, but for him to pass it off. pass the buck even though the buck stops there, essentially he was doing the same as voting president. you know, i'm not going to solve this, those guys are. >> yeah. but also to the issue of bipartisanship, keep in mind the role of nancy pelosi here as the newly minted minority leader, her role is to make sure that there is no compromise between the president and republicans. >> is that why she's not involved in this? >> exactly. and that's what her rule is. her rule is to make sure that doesn't happen so she can rescue the defeated democrats from the doldrums. >> i think that's a lot of d's. >> she wants the tax rates to go up. they believe in higher taxes. they want to fund more government programs. i think she would be quite content to have these tax cuts expire on december 31st and let the republicans try to revive it. >> forget about nancy pelosi. let's talk about the president of the united states. we know he probably is closer aligned to her. he's got to look at 2012 down the road and to your point, if i'm going to get re-elected, i need to show some wiggle room here. >> he should. i think republicans would make a mistake if they agreed to a two year extension of the tax cuts. that simply puts it into the 2012 election cycle and we'll go into this goat rope again. >> the goat rope. the so-called gang of six or whatever we're going to call them are going to meet again today. what could they possibly get done? >> i think they'll agree to have another meeting. >> so in other words, they're meeting -- it's like a faculty meeting. >> it is. >> professor. >> i think they have to get something done by the end of the year. there's no choice. it is not in obama's or republicans' interest for the tax cuts to expire for 98% of americans. >> i think democrats are in trouble. that's clear that democrats are in trouble but in terms of the expiring tax cuts, if they want the tax cuts to expire, then fine. republicans will come in and do a retroactive tax cut in january and see who wins that battle. >> no, i mean, i think that the white house is in its best bargaining position right now. and it's not going to be in january. >> and forced into it by the republicans. ok, great panel. we're going to continue. stay right here. the goat roping continues. the man who leaked thousands of u.s. secrets continues to point the finger at u.s. diplomats. he wants hillary clinton, that woman right there to resign! the panel will weigh in on that. the ambassador has a big smile on his face. and it's been admired for more than 1,000 years. and the search for whomever desecrated a historic piece of art. that straight ahead. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration foa $599 lease offer on the 2011 x john: yea, well, there you go. beth: yea, so what else is new? 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>> all right, brian. wikileaks founder julian assange on interpol's most wanted list on unrelated charges. he's calling for hillary clinton to resign as secretary of state. would the man who exposed top secret info be pointing fingers, should he and should the administration go after him? we continue the conversation with our political panel. ambassador john bolten, let's start with you. what he's saying is that if hillary clinton ordered the intelligence apparatus of this nation to spy on other leaders, she should quit. or she should resign. >> stay seated, i'm going to defend hillary clinton. number one, she didn't see that cable. the secretary of state signs every cable. there are hundreds of thousands. >> how do you know? >> it was too low level. it was not, i think, a state department cable. i think it was an intelligent community cable. it was mistakenly put in state department channels and you don't ask state department foreign service officers to field documents from copy machines. they wouldn't be very good at it. he's completely off base again. >> well, does this kind of thing happen at that level? >> no, i don't think what state department officers do is consistent what's in that cable. of course, they report on their meetings with foreign officials and the like. that's perfectly understandable but the kind of collection details in that cable reflected it's an intelligent community effort. >> hillary clinton herself has said life could be lost with the stuff that's in this. a great big document. >> out of 50,000 cables when people give off sensitive information sometime for a dissident in an authoritarian country, it's dangerous to be seen talking to an american official. >> you say it's time to go after this guy. >> yeah, and, you know, as a human rights lawyer and at the risk of being water boarded by my human rights colleagues, i essentially say at this point, it's contrary to enemy combatants. >> not espionage. >> enemy combatant. i think that, in fact, everything that he's been doing he's essentially declared war on the united states. i wouldn't say on the world community i would say on the united states. and he should be treated as an enemy combatant so e-mail folks who want to waterboard me after this. >> ok, i'll make sure i forward them to you. >> i'm shocked he's being called the whistle blower. there's nothing in the cables that shows the united states is engaging in activities. there's no surprises. there's no revelations in there. he's put i ddiplomacy at risk. you want to have private negotiation so we don't have to go to war. >> this has been a great panel today. thank you for joining us live. job well done. >> merry christmas. >> thank you very much. >> to you. >> all right. coming up by the way, just a couple of minutes, press secretary robert gibbs will join us live. we'll talk to him about -- i got a feeling that the subject will come up when we speak live from the whous. -- white house. are you struggling to put merry in christmas today? a lot of people are because times are tight. dave ramsey with advice on what to do this christmas straight ahead. talk about tough love. grandfather calls the cops on his own blood. his granddaughter. we'll tell you why. lwpk[:??vntjñtpowññ?ç÷n[ó ♪ [ male announcer ] opeup a cadilc during our season's best sales event. and receive the gift of asphalt. experience the cadillac of crossovers, the striking srx. it's the one gift you can open up allear long. see your cadillac dealer for this attractive offer. backed by the peace of mind that only comes from cadillac premium care maintenance. the season's best sales event. from cadillac. >> the white house called wikileaks and the others behind the release of this confidential material criminals and said president obama was "not pleased" which is -- sounds like someone is going to open a can of bipartisan exploratory committee whoop [beep] on somebody else. >> that's funny. we're going to have robert gibbs coming up at 7:45 in 15 minutes from now. he'll join us live to take the questions about wikileaks as well as what happened at that tax meeting yesterday? anything? expect more from your politicians? >> get the can ready absolutely. 29 minutes before the top of the hour. now your headlines. >> the u.s. and south korea has drills aimed at north korea this morning. south has another round of more maneuvers could take place off the southwest coast by the end of this month. the drills started four days ago after the north shelled a south korean island killing four people. >> the father of those three missing boys in michigan under arrest this morning and charged with kidnapping. he is out of the hospital after sow side attempt and now in f.b.i. custody. police now fearing the worst and they believe all of the boys are probably dead. his children, 9-year-old andrew, 6-year-old alexander and 5-year-old tanner have been missing since thursday. search crews will continue searching an area near the ohio and michigan border where he claims he left the children. police say his motive was a looming divorce and a bitter custody battle as well. >> classes resume this morning at a wisconsin high school where a 15-year-old student was held, as you know, 25 people hostage and then took his own life but questions still linger about why samuel snapped. family members say they saw no signs anything was wrong. >> in the coming days and weeks as we talk to other people involved, in this incident, we hope reasons surface so we, too, can stop asking ourselves why. hostage at gun point for five hours, and he died yesterday. the school providing grief counseling for students. gretch? >> a case of tough love. a grandfather in arizona turns in his granddaughter to police after she took $6,000 worth of jewelry. >> going to have to see hard love sometimes and that is the real only appropriate thing that i can do. >> garcia, a former marine and his wife raised their now 20-year-old granddaughter chelsea for most of her life. he says he still loves her but doesn't regret reporting her to police so what would you do in this tough situation? e-mail us. "fox & friends." >> when you call the cops, it's always -- on one of the kids, it's always weird around christmastime. >> no kidding. let's take a look at the weather. kind of a grab bag through portions of the midwest. we have rain and wind. we have a little bit of snow moving through. the storm all the way from portions of the great lake states down to the mid atlantic. heaviest currently moving through the western areas of new york state, also pennsylvania as well. a little bit of the snow on the backside of it. as you can see from this map, it is much colder. look ahead of it here in new york city, we have almost 60 degrees but behind it in cleveland, it's 31. it's 26 in chicago. and 13 in rapid city. >> it is chilly. >> you're right. brrr. brrr. today's daytime high, 61 in new york city. about the same for the mid atlantic and 40's across much of dixie land. today through the gulf coast, temperatures in the 50's and the 60's. out west in los angeles, looking for a daytime high of 66 degrees on this first day of december. >> my name in the teleprompter. >> this is for you. i actually like you to cover your ears, if you could, all right? this will hurt your feelings. minnesota vikings today, they have been approached to move the team to los angeles. >> what? >> yes. the vikings lease ends this year and the team has been frustrated, as you know and you talk about the lack of progress getting a new stadium approved. everybody is tight with the budget. they both left town in the 1990's when i got there. more on that later. it's the number two market. the city plans to build a new stadium downtown. >> that's only called leverage. never will happen. >> we'll see! >> i'm going to report. she has so many opinions. former florida state legend is returning to coach one more game for a worthy cause. he's 81 and heading to an undisclosed military installation in the persian gulf next month for a big flag football game with american soldiers called the connect the home ball alongside american military personnel, the game will also feature former nfl greats like zach thomas, thurman thomas and jim kelly who joined shep yesterday. it's a shoe brand largely popular with babes, with women. but the new face for uggg books will be none other than pate rotsz quarterback tom brady. >> what? >> yes. there's two models in the brady house now. the maker is betting -- >> so huge. >> you're actually talking louder to me now. he's betting that uggs, the three time super bowl champion will make the boot more appealing to men. specifically in chilly new england. he's no stranger to fashion. he's married to supermodel giselle buncheon seen pictured there. >> every day a different tom brady story. >> another chapter. >> pick up "the post" this morning. >> the holidays create a financial burden for many families. how do you get more for less. what's the best way to tell your children about the financial situation if you can't afford everything they're asking for. dave ramsey joins us now. this is tough for a guy in your business, isn't it? >> no, not really. i mean, it just gives us an opportunity to say hey, you can do any part of your life including celebrate christmas and have a great time with a plan. you don't have to be out of control and spend like you're in congress. you can have a plan. >> all right. he says what's wrong with telling your kids there will be no christmas gifts this year? am i being cruel? they already have too much. what's your answer to ann? >> what? where do you live, siberia? you're not giving your kids christmas gifts? wacko. seriously, you give your kids christmas gifts. oh, my gosh, of course you do. listen, i agree with you that they have too much. the ramsey kids have too much and so what you need to do is make giving to others, single mom, adopt an angel in the angel tree. giving to others is part of their christmas season. so they understand the reason for the season is giving and not receiving. >> maybe the thought of the gift and not the price of the gift. maybe they lost a shoe and you buy a left one instead of a right one. i don't know. nancy from california says this, my mother-in-law loves to gamble. while she needs money and usually give her for christmas, i don't think that's a good idea. she usually gives great gifts. any ideas on what to give her? >> where do we get these e-mails? oh, my gosh. >> don't judge, just answer, pal. >> let's try giftcards, ok? giftcards. maybe she can't cash those in and gamble with them at best buy or whatever. gift cards. >> oh, my goodness. >> right. from nebraska writes i'm a single dad of four kids. my divorce and poor financial management for years, prior to the divorce have left me deeply in debt. i'm slowly digging out. and can't do for the kids what i used to do. do you have any advice that will help me help my kids understand what i am doing and why? >> well, any time you have to have a tough conversation with your kids, you do it age appropriately. you'll have a different discussion with a 4-year-old than you would with a 14-year-old. i don't think we talk about the divorce and we don't talk about the ex. we just say hey, because of the split, my finances are here. i'm going to do some stuff for you. but you live in a different world now and i live in a different world so just be very, very real with them. if they're 14, 15, 16, they're going to grasp that. they're not necessarily going to like it. we'll get reasonable gifts but not expensive ones. >> exactly. some of the custody checks that allows you to have what you have in your mom's house, that's for me. that might be a good explanation, too. >> thanks so much. >> always good to be with you, brian. thanks. >> steve and gretch? >> always a gamble for him. thanks, brian. >> high level tax talks at the white house end up with no real results. are you surprised? so what's going to happen next? we'll ask press secretary to the president, robert gibbs when he joins us next. >> and forget about "full house" and america's funniest home videos. comedian bob saget is looking for big foot. he's coming to the studio to explain that. come on in, bob. first, the trivia question of the day. born on this date in 1960, she is the face in the u.s. but a movie star in italy. who is she? e-mail us, friends at foxnews.com and you will win something from bob saget. 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>> white house press secretary robert gibbs joins us live from, there you go, the briefing room in the white house. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, guys. how are you? >> doing ok. although how are you doing? a lot of the headlines today encapsulating what happened yesterday at the slurpee summit that essentially, nothing happened. nothing got done. >> well, look, i don't think in -- i don't think anybody here and i doubt anybody on capitol hill figured that we'd spend a couple hours and solve every one of our differences together. look, we have two political parties because we have two different philosophies but i think that yesterday's meeting from the president's perspective and from what i heard from capitol hill's perspective was a productive discussion, the beginning of a new relationship and now we have a path forward for discussing and negotiating on an agreement for taxes but also to talk through issues like a nuclear reduction treaty that the president believes can and should be done by the end of the year. so i think the meeting was productive again, certainly our expectations were not that all issues would be solved in two hours. >> yeah, and i do give you an a for optimism on that. the american people want the answers now. the tax cut thing is gone in three weeks. people expected more to happen. face it, president obama on the tax issue, it's not like it's a surprise, right? he knows where he stands. >> but understand, we live in a world where democrats and republicans have to work together. that's what the president talked about yesterday. that's what republicans talked about. this isn't going to be just what one person or what one party wants. the message coming out of this election was not more gridlock, not more partisan political games. but can people sit together at a table, work through some issues, make some progress, move this country forward, strengthen our economy and ensure most of all that middle class families don't see their tax bill go up at the end of the year. you're absolutely right that we've got until the end of this month to make sure that we solve this problem because when we celebrate new year's eve, we do not -- or the new year, we do not want to see tax rates for middle class families go up, not in this economy. and not ever. and i think that's what we're going to start doing today. our budget director, our treasury secretary, are going to go up to capitol hill and talk with members and senators and see if we can't get an agreement. >> did the president take himself out of the equation by putting those two in charge so he can appease the left? >> no, no. listen, let's understand that jack and tim knew exactly who they worked for. they work for the president of the united states. and they're going to go up there to work right now on what the president would like to see and that's to ensure that middle class families don't have their taxes go up on january 1st. >> i want you to hear what eric cantor about what the president said to him behind closed doors without note takers or staffers, here he is yesterday. >> yeah, i was encouraged by the president's remarks regarding his, perhaps, not having reached out enough in the last session. and that this meeting was the beginning of a series in which he hoped that we could work together in a different fashion for the benefit of the american people given the problems that we face. >> that was with -- that's why i'm optimistic, optimistic that something could happen because during the last two years, i've never heard anything of republicans saying the president said that. will it be easier for the president to reach across the aisle with a diminished nancy pelosi? >> well, look, i think we live in a world certainly at the beginning of the year where the republicans are going to control one house, the democrats are going to control the senate and obviously, the president is going to be a democrat so in order to make progress, we're going to have to work together. the president certainly didn't just do that in the private session but did that in front of everybody and said, he -- he takes some responsibility for not doing enough and wants to do his part in doing better and to create that relationship, to reach out and to make progress. it's going to have to be a 2-way street and i think the leaders from both sides understand the message out of this election was how do we strengthen this economy? how do we keep our country safe and how do we do that together? >> all right. let's shift gears to wikileaks. i'm sure you've heard there's this guy, he put a bunch of stuff on the internet. a lot of it embarrassing for the united states of america. i know the department of justice is apparently trying to figure out how to prosecute this guy and it's a little tricky because of all sorts of reasons. but why haven't we heard from the president on this issue? >> well, the president through the secretary of state and through many of the people that work here have spoken -- >> why not the president? >> clearly on how they are upset on the fact that hundreds of thousands of documents, many highly classified have been leaked. just as we saw earlier in the year, battlefield reports from the previous administration leaked. none of that helps our national security. we have interest as the american people and the world has a great interest in the united states of america forcefully pursuing a foreign policy that keeps the world safe and reduces nuclear weapons. >> this is by many accounts the largest security breach in american history. and the president of the united states has been very busy doing other things, talking about the federal pay freeze, talking about taxes, and not one statement about this. >> well, that's, again, the secretary of state works for the president of the united states. i think that that's pretty clear where he stands on this. understand that the president has, as you mentioned, lots of responsibilities to make sure this economy is strong and growing, make sure this country is safe and secure. we are stronger than one guy with one web site. we should never be afraid of one guy that plopped down $35 and bought a web address. our foreign policy is stronger than that. we're a stronger country than that. we're not scared of one guy with one keyboard and a laptop. >> embarrassment and things have been compromised. let me ask you this -- has the attorney general let the president down by waiting until the fall and not going after this guy in the summer when he had his first major document dump. what was the major waiting for investigation on espionage charges? >> look, guys, there's an ongoing criminal investigation and because of that, i'm really not going to get into the specifics of this. understand that we've got to look at a whole host of things including how somebody can put a thumb drive in the computer and copy documents and ultimately leak them to this web site or to anybody. that's not helpful to our national security but again, guys, let's not be scared of one guy with a laptop. >> we're not -- >> the fact that we see the damage. >> but let's not be scared of that. >> ok. >> this isn't -- this isn't something that we have to shy away from. we're the united states of america. we have a robust foreign policy that pursues our national interest and ensures the safety and security of those around the world. that's something this administration and administrations in the future regardless of what one guy with a web site or what somebody does when leaking highly classified information. those people are criminals and they'll be punished as such. >> all right. >> let's not be afraid, we're the united states of america. >> before you go, i ask a question. bob saget is live in our studio right now. which was your favorite "full house" or "america's funniest home videos." >> got to be "america's funniest home videos." you still see that on tv and you still laugh. >> right? >> i will say that's got to be hands down plus i'm sure that there are people on "full house" that are still cringing at what their hair looked like way back then. >> thank you very much for joining us today. thanks, guys. >> bob saget is coming up in this moment. >> on this date, the they had the number one hit "leader of the pack." to stay fit, you might also want to try lifting one of these. a unique sea salt added to over 40 campbell's condensed soups. helps us reduce sodium, but not flavor. so do a few lifts. campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ mom in the history of moms has ever turned down a hand-made ornament. that's why we've set up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. where kids can get their picture with santa. and, this weekend, make a chrismoose ornament. and it's all free. >> gretchen: carol alt winner, congratulations. >> brian: he became famous playing a widowed dad on the show "full house," now in his latest project, strange days with bob saget, he travels with a crew on a yearlong journey to investigate the lesser known parts of america. back saget joins us now. where did you come up with this brilliant idea. you are a genius. he doesn't have to work anymore. >> i couldn't hear this morning. it's all come back to me. this show does not need a volume knob. >> brian: i apologize. >> i like it. i came up with it ten years ago i came up with it 10 years ago and it wasn't right for the time and now it was an idea of studying subcultures and my bucket list of things i never did. i never went to camp. i never joined the frat. i joined the cornell frat which is on next wednesday. i went into the world of wrestling. and i studied backyard wrestling and dragon gate and looked at vegas, with jeff ross. >> lot of liquor involved in that? >> there's booze in every one of these things. i try not to drink on camera especially because you can't drink and do -- >> not supposed to. >> what about when you're on the motorcycle? >> i'm in a sidecar of a motorcycle. motorcycle. proud of, but they shouldn't have let me do it. >> gretchen: what was the craziest stunt, if i can call it that, that you did? >> the one i aired last night was looking for red foot with infrared gear. i was trying to find out where to go to the bathroom in the woods. >> brian: everyone looks at you and says hi, you're not a biker, you're bob saget. >> normally i'm marla gibbs. which is a lot of work to get to this. you go out and people know you. it's like being in a big bird suit. you go to the airport and hopefully kids like you for auris cats. >> gretchen: i take it people will laugh a lot? >> i any so. it's a comedy documentary. comedy, documentary. >> brian: you are making america a better place. i'm glad to be an american because of you. >> i'm glad to be an american myself and i'm glad you literally have the best volume on television. >> steve: an the a and e every tuesday at 10 p.m. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up, study says allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military can't hurt. will the decision makers and congress agree? we'll ask senator joe lieberman. >> brian: we'll talk about a christmas tradition being ruined., >> gretchen: "good morning america." i'm gretchen carlson along with steve and brian. thank you for sharing your time. america should not be afraid of one man and a laptop. yep. that's what white house press secretary robert gibbs just told us about the wikileaks documents exposing national security secrets. what do you think about that statement? >> steve: you want it done right, well, do it yourself. the president apparently taking over for nancy pelosi, shutting her out from this week's table talks about taxes as he realized compromise is the only remaining option. >> brian: a high school football player punished for unsportsman like conduct. he thanked god after scoring a touchdown and they threw a flag. "fox & friends" starts right now >> brian: look at that. that's 69-year-old ruth flowers, also known as dj ma'amy ross from great britain, but joining us in studio a today to spin some platters and put us in a musical mood to start wednesday. >> brian: i guess the rest of america. ♪ >> gretchen: look at that. >> brian: she's in the zone and wearing blue blockers. >> steve: you need those head phones, brian, for your radio show. can you imagine? you would look like lib rachy. >> brian: that's always been a goal. >> gretchen: he has these ear buds. looking forward to that to end our show today. a couple headlines because the estimated 2 million americans will lose their long-term unemployment benefits today after lawmakers failed to approve a last minute extension. both republicans and democrats said they were open to extending the benefit, but not if it means adding to the $14 trillion national debt. the job market isn't expected to improve very much. the fed expects the unemployment rate to hover around 9%. they're already saying for all of next year as well. the u.s. and south korea wrap up military drills aimed at north korea this morning. the south says another round of war maneuvers could take place off the southwest coast by the end of this month. the drills started four days ago after the north shelled the south korean island, killing four people there. records revealing disturbing new details in the case of ten-year-old glare a baker. unsealed search warrants indicate her body was likely dismembered in her family's bathtub in north carolina. it shows she may have been attacked by two men who knew her stepmother. when police asked her if she hurt zahra, it apparently showed that she may have lied. 31 years ago, great tran was born in the gulf. thailand. now the philadelphia financial analyst has gone to hawaii to see both. >> this is wonderful. i never thought this day would come. i always thought about meeting other marines, like coming to see the ship because my parents told me a lot of stories. i never imagined this would really happen. >> gretchen: her family was among 400 vietnamese refugees picked up in 1979 and had been attacked and the boat was sinking. richard reed is a minister and says it was the encounter with the refugees that inspired him to go into the ministry. a great story. >> brian: i don't know how the administration could possibly spin something positive out of the wikileaks. you look at all the classified information out in public, let alone the people that could be dead now who are informants in the iraq war expended up helping us out, especially in the sunni triangle, or in pakistan, where the taliban has names of those giving out intel. and there is little things like someone being called feckless. when robert gibbs was on as press secretary, i was a little surprised on his take. >> gretchen: this was what he said about julian assange. see if you agree. >> look, our foreign policy and our country is stronger than one guy with one web site. we should not and we should never be afraid of one guy who popped down $35 and bought a web address. our foreign policy is stronger than that. we're a stronger country than that. we're not scared of one guy with one keyboard and a laptop. >> gretchen: what? >> steve: that one guy who plopped down and bought that domain and has the laptop and skyping around the world talking about what he did has caused great embarrassment for the u.s. government, and when we asked mr. gibbs why haven't we heard from the president, he said, you know, we heard from the secretary of state and she speaks for the president. >> gretchen: it's caused a heck of a lot more than embarrassment. you are talking about major, major national security situation here. for robert gibbs as a spokesperson, i don't know, i was shocked to hear him say we shouldn't be afraid. who thought of that line in the administration, we shouldn't be afraid of one guy? doesn't sound like they're going after this guy. >> brian: when you want to talk about hard core, how could the administration be in control of one private in one building, blasting lady gaga, that was able to transfer all this vital information to wikileaks? >> steve: they made it too available. >> brian: no one is saying the president is responsible, but the fact that only one guy is under arrest, that might be a little concerning. the fact that the president hasn't cam out, that might be concerning. the fact that the attorney general waited six months to push australia and interpoll to do the thing is concerning. and maybe it's not in other countries' best interests to know what private communications are like behind the scenes 'cause that, for whatever reason, it jeopardized them in their country. maybe they won't be so candid with us behind closed doors. >> steve: let's talk about reaction to some of these cables. bill clinton, former president says people may lose their lives and others could lose their careers because of the leak. also hillary clinton has weighed in. >> brian: that's that statement right there in light of what robert gibbs said. >> steve: considering the fact that he know -- the former president know what is kind of information is in those. >> gretchen: the first document dump, as you recall, about the wars in afghanistan and iraq, put 100 people's lives in danger. we don't even know if they're still alive. these were the informants who were working to help the united states as double agents in afghanistan and iraq. their identities were exposed in that first document dump and you're telling me that is one guy with a laptop and we shouldn't be afraid of him? >> brian: we know the special forces in pakistan working with the pakinstani military. we know there is a major concern at the highest levels of our government about pakinstani nuclear weapons getting in the hands of terrorists and some of them maybe in the inside of the pakinstani nuclear program. okay. great. i think there is a reason why that was top secret because we're doing things behind closed doors. now that we know that they know that they know that we know, i think that might be a little more than being scared. >> steve: that's a good way to put it. >> brian: thank you. i'm going to read it back if i know what i said. >> steve: this is reaction from the united states. when you go around the world, suddenly a lot of people who live in some of these countries where diplomats are talking about the leaders of those countries, if they're lucky enough to have some sort of information available to them, they're saying of the united states, wait a minute. i never heard that stuff before. dictators like to clamp down on information that their people get. jamie ruben, former assistant secretary of state talked with steven colbert about that. >> like in the case of yemen and you'll probably agree with this one, if we're going to -- >> don't count on it. >> we're going to be able to use military force against an al-qaeda cell in yemen and the yemeni government says we can't tell our people that you do it, united states. we're going to say we're going to do it. so we may need to have that conversation privately if wikileaks is going to put it all over the world, maybe next time the yemeni government won't be so willing to let us take out the terrorists inside yemen. >> gretchen: jamie rubin thinks it's more than one guy's laptop. i guess he does. >> brian: it's astounding. >> steve: the guy with the laptop is in trouble because interpoll is going after him on unrelated rape charges in sweden. the other headline about him is he says hillary clinton should resign if it is true that she signed off on some sort of surveillance of world leaders, although we had ambassador bolten on the program earlier and he said that at that level, her signature appears on stuff, but she doesn't actually sign off on stuff. that should put that to rest. >> gretchen: what would happen at those tax meetings yesterday? negotiations on the bush era tax cuts? they're going to start anew today on capitol hill. the meetings come one day after president obama sat down with congressional leaders. julie kirtz is -- wendell goler it is now. live from the white house. you don't look anything like julie examine -- and she doesn't look anything like you. >> very happy at that. >> gretchen: take it away, please. >> the president's budget director, sitting down with representatives of the house and senate from both parties to decide whether all the bush tax cuts are extended or just those for the middle class or what's more likely, some compromise that either raises the income level of the tax cuts extended permanently or temporarily extends the upper level income tax cuts. robert gibbs, who you talked to a short while ago, says he's confident they'll reach some kind of an agreement. but the president made clear yesterday, it's not just the income tax cuts he wants to extend. here is a bit of what he had to say. >> this includes a tax credit for college tuition, a tax credit for 95% tax break for 95% of working families that i initiated at the beginning of my presidency, as well as a tax cut for thousands of dollars for businesses that hire unemployed workers. >> the president and congressional leaders kicked their aides out and met privately for a while yesterday and afterwards, both sides talked bipartisanship, but there are differences over the tax cuts remain. republicans saying not extending the upper income tax cuts would punish some small businesses and keep the economy from growing as fast as it might. >> i think republicans made the point that stopping all the looming tax hikes and cutting spending would, in fact, create jobs and get the economy booming. we're looking forward to the conversation with the white house over extending all of the current rates and i remain optimistic. >> the house plans to vote on thursday to extend just the middle class tax cut, even if it passes in the house. it's unlikely to get through the flat. but what it may do, as democrats prepare to turn over control of the house to republican, is force republicans to vote against extending the middle class tax cuts and then defend that vote in 2012. >> gretchen: wendell goler live at the white house. thanks very much. >> steve: give our best to julie. >> i'll do that. >> brian: pentagon study says allowing gays to serve openly in the military cannot hurt. but not everyone in congress agrees. senator joe lieberman weighs in next. that's a picture of joe. >> steve: it is. and a tradition changed forever. the christmas village is being renamed the holiday village. frustrated family joins us coming up. >> gretchen: we're ringing in christmas with the help of the marines. they're standing by with hundreds of toys. we'll explain what it's all about coming up. >> brian: welcome back. >> gretchen: tomorrow the senate will begin hearings on the pentagon's don't ask don't tell report which indicates military respondents believe lifting the ban would have little to no impact on their ability to fight. democrats seem confident they can get the controversial policy repealed. >> brian: with us is one senator who has been outspoken against don't ask don't tell, connecticut independent and democratic independent who caucuses with the democrats. member of the armed services committee, senator joe lieberman. before we talk about don't ask don't tell, can i ask you about what robert gibbs said to us about ten minutes ago, the press secretary for the white house? he says the wikileaks leak, we shouldn't be fearful of them. he's just one man who paid $35 for a laptop. in your mind, is he diminishing the impact julian assange has made? >> , i need to hear it in context, but based on what you said i don't agree. we ought to be angry at him. this is a guy who has done terrible damage to our country and to a lot of other countries around the world. in my opinion, the u.s. government and ally governments ought to be doing everything we can to close down wikileaks. i mean, to try to get other countries to deny him access to servers and i think we ought to be doing everything we can with our allies around the world to arrest this guy. he's a menace. in my opinion, he's risked lives. >> gretchen: that's exactly what i was going to say. president clinton said in a statement that the work of wikileaks has possibly caused lives to be lost. you don't have to even hear robert gibbs in context. he said it very plain and very straightforward, we should not be afraid of one guy with a laptop. do you think that that is the correct policy for america to have right now in one of the largest security breaches in our history? >> let me try to give the benefit of the doubt to bob gibbs. america is not to be fearful of anything, so long as we take action to stop people who have hurt us. and this guy and wikileaks have hurt us badly and i fear still that they're going to have blood on their hands of americans and others who are mentioned in these leaks and their enemy also take action against them. so fearful, that's not the point. the point is we ought to be angry at wikileaks and we ought to do everything we can to shut them down. incidentally, this is a little bit like the pirates off somalia. we got all the navies of the world, china is out there alongside us trying to stop the pirates 'cause the pirates affect every country in the world and so does wikileaks. so together, if we can't shut this guy down, shame on the civilized world. >> brian: they do a study in the military and they talk to over 100,000 families of those serving in the military. men and women serving right now. they asked about don't ask don't tell and evidently most don't feel it will hurt the performance of the military and it should be repealed. where do you stand? >> i'm very supportive of repeal. way back in 1993 when don't ask don't tell went in, i thought it was a mistake because look, in america, we judge people not by their race or gender or religion, but our sexual orientation, but by how they do the job. and i thought this policy -- this policy is actually resulted , since 1993, in over 14,000 members of our military being crossed out not because they violated the code of conduct, or inadequate soldiers, because they were gay. that's not only not american, but it's not good for our military when you think of all the money we spent to train those people. so the one big objection has been and worry has been if we repeal this unfair policy, will it adversely affect the u.s. military and i think this study says no, it won't. i hope we will repeal it before the end of the year. >> gretchen: let's listen to some of the opponents who are on the other side of how you feel about the issue. >> okay. >> there may be times to make these kind of changes. i would start with the fact that now is probably not the time. >> i think this is not the time with a lame duck congress, dozens of people who have been defeated. >> brian: john mccain is also, a good friend of yours, he also doesn't think this is the time. why is this a priority, senator? >> it's been a priority for 17 years 'cause it's resulted in people being tossed out of the military who we could use. a lot of mission critical skills and we need those people now, particularly as we're in combat. but it's never the wrong time to do the right thing. this happens to be the right thing in terms of american values of equal opportunity and i think it's the best thing for our military and a study that came out yesterday really says that. the most interesting and to me, positive number was that over 90% of members of our military who believe they've served with somebody who is gay have said it's not been a problem in terms of military effectiveness or cohesion or morale. i think the u.s. military is one of the great integrating institutions in our country and they're ready for this. >> brian: they're the ones fighting the wars. they should make that decision. senator lieberman and you are one of the biggest supporters of the military, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up on the show, a plane plunges 7,000 feet in seconds when the pilot takes a bathroom break? the plane was going so fast, it nearly broke the sound barrier. how could this happen? >> brian: then don't call it the christmas village. it's now being called the holiday village. another example of political correctness gone amuck. yes, our next guest says we got to stop it. >> gretchen: couple headlines. shocking video released of a california teen moments after he escapes from captivity. you see him running into a local gym in his underwear with a chain around his ankle begging for help. he was allegedly in prison by his aunt and three others for almost a year. they now face 30 years behind bars. yahoo releasing the top three tunes of the year. miley cyrus, the sound of the -- guests, candy cane and someone complaining about the word christmas. this time let's take to you philly where the third annual german christmas village was asked to drop the word christmas from its entrance sign in favor of the word "holiday." johning us is columnist and philadelphia native, aaron procter. thank you for joining us. >> happy to be here. >> steve: three years ago, there on the grounds of city hall in philly they built essentially a replica of a german christmas village and you heard about it and you decided to take a friend of yours there and what happened? >> that woman now is my fiance. >> steve: congratulations. >> thank you very much. we actually we want there on our first date. so it's definitely something that's near to my heart and something that my fiance and i look forward to going to every year around the same time. >> steve: so you did this past monday, you wanted to go back to the german christmas village and wait a minute. they changed the sign. what is that about? >> yeah. the sign is gone. it says village. and there was still signs up that said christmas village. i didn't hear anything until i got home and on the news, they said that city hall had decided that christmas is somehow too offensive. don't ask me how somebody is offended by the word christmas. i never understood that and has to be called holiday village. >> steve: at this particular thing, and we're looking right there. i've seen christmas trees. i've seen christmas ornaments. they're obviously having christmas music as well. do they have other traditions represented there, kwanzaa or hanukkah or anything? >> there were a couple of i guess what you would call ethnic stores, but i didn't see those type of things, then again, i'm not looking for them because that's not christmas. >> steve: exactly right. we've got a sound bite from the city managing director, he's the guy who pulled the plug on the name, "christmas." >> there are now jewish vendors and muslim vendors who are in the village. it's more accurate, makes more sense, more in keeping with the spirit of the holiday to call it the holiday village from now on. >> steve: so aaron, that guy says that some people might find that name offensive. what do you say? >> i think that if you find the word -- of all the offensive things that exist in this world today, if you find the word christmas, and if you find a christmas tree offensive, you really, really need a reality check and get a life because i personally know a few people of different faiths. i don't know anyone who is offended by christmas. it's not an offensive thing. people are joyful. why that i that joy away from people? why change the name of something because one or two people have to start trouble around this time of year? that's really what it is. >> steve: all right. aaron, we thank you very much for sharing your time. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas to you as well. >> steve: thank you. e-mail us. what do you think about what philly is doing? meanwhile, voters aren't the only ones fed up with business as usual on capitol hill. >> this is why the american people have thrown you out of power? >> steve: a football player punished after thanking god after making a touchdown. he said he's done it before and no one had a problem with it until this time. plus, age is not slow in this grandma down. at 69 years old, this dj topping the charts. ♪ >> gretchen: welcome back. 8:30 on the east coast. a lot of times people have said wouldn't it be nice if members of congress acted more boieserous on the house floor like we see in other foreign noises? yesterday we saw a little bit of that when congressman steve bullier from indiana got a little upset. >> the chairman is not here to present the bill. shouldn't we go to the next bill and it would therefore withdraw this bill? >> will suspend. the gentleman has not been recognized. >> i ask to be recognized. i ask to address the house for one minute. i don't even see anyone here on the floor to object, madam speaker. it's within your discretion. there is no one here to object. this is why the american people have thrown you out of power. >> brian: he's sitting in an empty room trying to get permission to talk. >> steve: they have rules. parliamentary procedure. you've got to be recognized by the speaker. and today the acting speaker of the house was there. he was asking to speak, will you yield me some time? she just stood there. he was frustrated and he said what a lot of people are thinking. why don't you get it? >> brian: in the end, he got a minute. his response was, wow. >> gretchen: he's retiring, so it will be one of his last times to speak after 18 years of service. >> brian: 28 minutes before the top of the hour. in the news, let's start here. send sewer for charlie rangel likely delayed. that vote is likely not on schedule today. rangel asked for a reprimand instead of a censure, he claims they're not serious violations. everybody else disagrees. he wants to go back to the islands and get some rest. >> steve: a copilot's bathroom break nearly forces an air india flight from dubai to crash. the scare started when the copilot was covering for the pilot who was using the bathroom. apparently the copilot accidentally thumped the control column sending the plane into a 7,000-foot nose dive. copilot became so panicked, he was unable to open the door and get the pilot back into the cockpit. the pilot used an emergency code to gain access and managed to bring the plane under control. the plane reportedly going so fast, it nearly broke the sound barrier. oops. >> gretchen: i would have passed out on that. sports and religion collide at a high school football game. ronnie is a runningback at a high school in washington. after scoring a touchdown, he drops to a knee and he points to the sky to thank god. >> brian: what's wrong with that? >> gretchen: the ref flags him for unsportsman like conduct. he said he's been doing this all season long. >> i give him the glory because he's the one who gives me the strength. >> i was confused because i've done that every game and got flagged for it. >> gretchen: the rules state a flair with not draw attention to himself during celebrations. he went on to beat their opponent. he says the next time he does score a touchdown, he will play by the rules. >> brian: he says he's not going to pray anymore. >> gretchen: that's what you get when other people have ruined it for you. >> brian: i'm sure that referee will get suspended. a picture of jesus with ants crawling across his face have been removed from washington. it outraged many and was pulled. who would have thought? the smithsonian said it was not paid for with public money. but earlier, georgia congressman disagreed. >> they claim that this is not paid for by tax dollars, yet this is a public building with publicly paid staff, public heat and air conditioning, if you will, public security. so there is no question that taxpayers are subsidizing this. >> brian: all right. kingston sits on the house appropriations committee and wants an investigation into the museum's funding. >> steve: we asked you to send us e-mails about whether you thought this was an appropriate exhibit for the smithsonian which does have a lot of public funds. doctor windsor at saint francis cemetery wrote, isn't it interesting that a young man cannot pray at his football game because of separation of church and state, but the smithsonian can show jesus being eaten by ants? where is the separation there? >> brian: lynn from virginia says this, we have been subjected to false premises that we can't sing of god in public steps, nor pray in public schools, nor place a creche on public lawns, yet we have to look at trash in public buildings. >> gretchen: harry says this, the smithsonian has had problems with their radical left slants before. the american people are tired of their tax cut dollars going to support some liberal slant that is, quote -- cloaked in the aura of free speech. do it on their own nickel. not with taxpayer money and not in an american museum. >> steve: all right. now we're going to go over across the studio, brian kilmeade is there with a great cause. >> brian: a cause many americans are familiar with. boy, do i feel safe between these guys. it's cold outside, but look who we have. members of the u.s. marine corps to warm us with holiday cheer. it's time for toys for tots. over 62 years, these men and women, marine corps for toys for tots and distributed more than 400 million toys for needy kids around the country and that's why they're here today. year 63. so far we're looking pretty good. let's meet two of the people making it happen. captain david peck and staff sergeant ivan lee brand. welcome. first off, captain, tell me about this year's quest. >> thank you and good morning. toys for tots, we collect toys from around the country, provide them to less fortunate kids who may have otherwise not had a good christmas. we started in 1947, collected about 5,000 toys and over the years, we've increased it and up to last year where we've collected over 16.3 million toys. >> brian: you go down down to the wal-mart, how does the system work that the marines gather these toys and get them to the people that need them most? >> the marines are pretty much the middle man. new yorkers take care of themselves. there is an outreach, they reach out and say they would like to start a drive for new yorkers. alt toys they collect at those individual businesses. we pick them up and we carry them over to a nonprofit organization for distribution. >> brian: what's hot right now? do you know? >> we're kind of partial to the g.i. joes. >> brian: wait a minute. that's army. >> well, it's marines, too. >> brian: is it really? because my favorite toy, if i can be totally honest, if you promise not to tell anybody, eagle eye. there is something about putting the lever on the back of someone's head that would be bad guys that i find attractive. you are you a g.i. joe guy? >> i am. but we need more girl toys. twilight is big this year. we find a shortfall with the eight to 12-year-old girls. we always fall short in that category every year. we're pushing for that. >> brian: you want toys. can we say this, you want the toys that the kids want? i know they want to get anything. is that possible? where do you go to find out what's hot? >> if you go to toys r us or any popular store, you could probably see things that move. those are the type of toys we would like. >> brian: i understand, according to my sources, i have sources in toys, baby alive is hot with girls this year. correct? >> yes, it is. it's very hot with the younger -- not so much the toddlers, but 4 plus. they definitely like those. >> brian: people all across the country are saying this is the year i'm going to get involved or make sure to get one or two. how do they do it? >> goes to takes for tots.org or the new york city web site. >> brian: you guys all got up real quick. >> eric, here in new york. >> brian: i feel better. >> here in new york. >> gretchen: brian from new york. >> from pennsylvania. >> new york. >> brian: brooklyn. that's close to us. a round of applause for these guys. marines doing some great work. tell us what's up next and go get your toys and drop them off. >> steve: thank you very much, brian. >> gretchen: thanks. coming up, former senate nominee christine o'donnell from delaware will join us live. she says the president is actually using some of her ideas in his quest to cut spending. >> steve: great. then she is pushing 70 years old, but age can't stop this grandma from spinning. dj bringing her incredible talent to our new york studio. >> steve: a quick look at your headlines on this wednesday morning. seven suspected terrorists under arrest in spain. according to police, the group reportedly has ties to both al-qaeda and the 2008 hotel attacks in mumbai, india. sundown tonight, the jewish holiday hanukkah starts. families will light the first candle of the menorah to celebrate the rededication of the holy temple in jerusalem and the victory of macabees. gretch, over to you. >> gretchen: anger still brewing over the release of thousands of classified documents and national security secrets by the web site wikileaks. the founder has called for secretary of state hillary clinton to resign and earlier this morning, white house press secretary robert gibbs said this. >> look, our foreign policy and our country is stronger than one guy with one web site. we should not and we should never be afraid of one guy who popped down $35 and bought a web address. our foreign policy is stronger than that. we're a stronger country than that. we're not scared of one guy with one keyboard and a laptop. >> gretchen: with me now is former gop delaware senate candidate christine o'donnell with her reaction to that. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: thanks for coming to the studio. so that was an alarming statement by the president's spokesperson. you would have to believe that that's how the president feels as well, that one guy with a laptop we should not be afraid of. >> right. well, i understand what they're trying to do is not elevate this ego maniac. he's doing this to say one person can take down the united states. but we can not undermine what happened. it's a major breach of security. he's risking not just the classified information that he released, but future classified information in that our intelligence sources are going to question whether or not it really is secure, whether or not they're jeopardizing their own safety by sharing that intelligence information with us. it's a delicate balance in that this guy is an ego maniac, but what he did was extremely devastating. but america still is great even with all of our economic troubles right now, we are still a major super power and a country that we love. >> gretchen: but this guy is going to strike again. >> he is. >> gretchen: 'cause he lived up to every threat. my question to you is, should the president have responded to this? he has not. >> yes, he should. i don't know if this is why he's not, but again, once the president starts talking about him, this guy's ego is going to go out of control. he's going to -- in his mind, he's going to think, i'm in battle with the president of the united states. we don't want to satisfy him that way. but at the same time, i would have liked to see hillary clinton call for treason. say that this man is an enemy of the state. wikileaks is a perhaps some sort of virtual weapon of mass destruction because it's that dangerous. >> gretchen: i want to bring up hillary clinton. you tweeted about the secretary of state and how she dealt with that press conference about wikileaks. here is what you said. some may cringe, but hillary, you go, girl. she's no reagan yet. her verbal lashing against wikileaks is tough. watch out, obama. why did you do that? >> because as i was watching her conference on your network, she had ager and she had a toughness and she had a resolve. you could tell that she was offended by what this man was doing to her country. i haven't seen that in this president at all. you don't see that anger that we need when terrorists attack our country. he's just kind of, whether he's making a speech about the economy or whatever, it's all kind of monotone. hillary clinton showed some emotion. she showed some toughness. she called it what it was, an attack on our nation, a moss still act of aggression that needs to be dealt with and i would love to see her take on obama in a primary. i think a lot of people would. >> gretchen: we'll have to wait and see if that happens. in the meantime, another issue with regard to the federal pay freeze. you say the president stole your ideas. what do you mean? >> not my idea, but what republicans were talking about. in the overall package that many republicans, candidates including myself presented in debates when asked what would you cut in spending, we talked about a freeze on nonessential federal workers. not just a pay freeze, but a hiring freeze. the reason why this isn't going to work for him is because he's trying to do what bill clinton did when he got a very strong message in the midterm election elections. bill clinton then just started adopting and signing off on the republican agenda that was being put forth. president obama right now is trying to piecemeal what was a bigger package, a bigger cutting tax, reducing the debt and deficit. you can't just piecemeal it. these aren't just sound bites that are going to work as isolated actions. >> gretchen: the timing was, you think, not coincidental when he makes this decision the day before he's meeting with the gop to talk about tax. >> absolutely. and to appease many of those americans who are frustrated right now. you could say that his reelection campaign started the day after election day. >> gretchen: what will you do now since you were not successful in your senate bid? >> well, whatever i do, i'm going to try to continue to be an advocate for issues. like right now we're trying to get the death tax on the lame duck agenda, trying to work with some senators there to let them know that come january 1, it's going to be reinstated and that's going to devastate many families. so we're starting a pack and i'm writing a book. >> gretchen: great to have you in the studio. i don't know how your dance skills are, but you may want to stay tuned for this. dj is pushing 70 years old, but age can't stop this grandma from spinning. the chart topping sensation will perform live on "fox & friends" next. this may be my favorite segment of the year. first, let's check in with martha mccallum for the top of the hour. >> i can't wait to see that. thank you very much. the debt commission is calling this the moment of truth. it may well be -- did you know that congress' own budget doubled since the year 2000? has your budget doubled since the year 2000? they'll take on that and a whole lot more. orrin hatch, karl rove, all of us here at the top of the hour. join bill and i. we'll see you then. >> steve: it was an idea. she is one of the hottest djs in all of europe right now touring the entire continent and playing in some of the most fantastic nightclubs in the world. but she's not your average dj and she's not your average grandmother at 69 years old either. >> gretchen: ma'amy rock is just getting started and on her way to becoming a music sensation. aka ruth flowers. >> good morning and thank you for having me. >> brian: welcome to our land. >> i've been to america many times. but i've never been to new york. >> brian: let me ask you, for the longest time, your music was a generational thing. my parents liked this. we liked this. grandparents liked this. why is it that you have transferred your likes for today's music as well as yesterday's? >> well, i think music is universal. you have to move with the times and the kids are so lively. fantastic. to me, they love the music i play because it's not just you. i knew nothing about elect throw music at all. and now i have to be advised, but i know a lot -- i've been singing since i was five years old. i trained for seven years. so i know music. >> steve: music is music. >> it's universal. >> steve: sure. now, i understand you actually got into this business when you were at an event in the last year. right? and you saw -- you went into the dj situation -- >> it was five years ago. for goodness sake, yes. >> steve: and? >> well, my grandson had a birthday and now they don't play games. they have a disco after the party. so i went along and the into at the door said, i can't think you need to go in there and i said i do because it's my grandson's birthday and the noise was horrendous. and the lights were flashing and i thought, my god. but i was struck by how much enjoyment they were having. extending that, what can be very dangerous, youthful energy, you know? i mean, it's channeled into dancing. what can be better? >> gretchen: i like your attitude. now you can baby-sit your grandson all the time 'cause you're the dj. can you show us some of your djing right now? >> i can do movements. >> steve: we'll get out of your way. >> we have our disk. we put it in. we get the right speed with this, you see. you tune in. you put your ear plugs. >> brian: can you see that? >> you put the ear plug in there. so i'm listening to just this one. and then we get the timing up which is usually -- >> gretchen: hit it. >> let's try this one. ♪ ♪ i feel good ♪ ♪ ♪ it's up to you new york, new york ♪ >> steve: very nice. beautiful! i feel like the yankees just won!

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