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i can't -- i don't want to mess with that. >> a lot of people were at home for the thanksgiving day holiday. people taking back to the roadways flying again, perhaps, maybe hitting the trains and public transportation at a time when public anger is growing over all these invasive security measures at airports. could we start to see them elsewhere? malini wilkes joining us live from washington, d.c. this morning. good morning to you, malini. are we talking trains and buses now? >> well, that's not on the horizon just yet. the homeland security secretary is expressing concerns about terrorists tarrigeting other mos of transportation. that passenger threat to slow down travel by opting out of those new revealing scanning machines. homeland security secretary janet napolitano defended the machines in an interview this week saying they give us a much better chance to find liquids or gels to find in explosives. they are thinking what terrorists are focusing on in the future. she thinks they're continuously probing the system looking at attacking trains and other types of transportation and she's already focusing on how to protect those systems. >> i think the tighter we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about employing on to mass transit or the trains or maritime so what do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there? >> so could we actually see those body scanning machines in the subway or at the train station? napolitano did not address that possibility directly. but senator joe lieberman has authored a bill that would allow testing of body scanners for security at certain federal buildings. clayton, david, ainsley back to you. >> the question this morning, as to whether or not they work, are we going to start shelling out hundreds of thousands of dollars for each of these machines. we have an expert saying these machines don't work. taxpayers footing the bill for a possible infrastructure change to trains, buses at government buildings now sounds a little ridiculous. >> i want to hear why they don't work. if you look at the i mages you can see if they're hiding anything. >> we've been talking to el al authorities talking about how these bombs have been able to get through situations and the machines and hav't stopped them. >> does the tsa catch terrorists or is that done by intelligence? it may find a gun or knife as in the case of the jonas brothers but does the tsa stop terrorism? that can be debated. we're talking mostly domestic travel here. most of the incidents are coming from international travel and that we're not doing much about. >> something to think about. we all ride the trains. i don't know if you do at home. back where i grew up, we don't have mass transit systems but here up north, everybody relies on the trains or subways. it's something to think about. >> you can't screen everybody at the somebody. realistically, you can't do it. >> peter king, we had on the show last week or two weeks ago talking about this and talking about the public transportation problem. he said it's obviously a concern but it's nearly impossible. lebanon, pennsylvania, you have these old, old, like train depots in a lot of towns where amtrak makes all these different stops, who is going to pay for that? >> let alone manhattan who has hundreds and hundreds of subway stops, not able to screen a fifth of the people. >> you say your prayers and hope it won't happen on that day, i guess. >> talk about the jonas brothers. >> have you ever done something this boneheaded? i'll tell you my stupid story in a moment. >> good, good. >> this is good. >> joe jonas was bringing back some cooking knives. >> cheese knives, specifically. >> they aren't very sharp, are they? >> over in the middle east. he buys knives and comes through the airport and ends up trying to take them through securitiment they say hold on a second. no way. we're going to clamp down. the flight was delayed as a result of trying to sneak these knives on to the plane. >> his girlfriend who is a "twilight" actress, where did you put those cooking knives? they went through security. he said whoopsies and she quotes that's not going to do it here. they let him put them beneath the plane and we averted an international incident. >> here was my bonehead move. you know the liberty bell in philadelphia, pennsylvania. was taking some family one time through the security and wanted to show them they were in town, you do the tour thing and i had just moved so i had all my stuff in my bag and i couldn't find my box cutter for the longest time. where's that box cutter? go through security at the liberty bell in pennsylvania and the guy says to me do you have a box cutter in your bag? i said no, i don't have a box cutter in my bag. i said no. are you sure about that? absolutely, why would i be carrying the box cutter? like i would cut the liberty bell? sure enough, i had a box cutter. >> why did you have it in there? >> moving. >> let's talk about what's happening overseas this morning, fox news alert, what's happening in north korea. things are not getting any better. they have warned the north koreans we may be on the brink of war. there's reports there have been shots fired from the south koreans although i think if you relay the story, this was actually south koreans hearing their own shots. >> now we know more about this overnight because the markets were opening, there was a lot of panic. they were hearing artillery shells hitting the south korean side. they were north korean military exercises and that none of the shells did land in the south korean side of the peninsula but this just goes to talk about the heightened state of affairs over there right now. people hearing artillery fire in the middle of the night especially after this week's deadly firing on that south korean island. >> that's right. south korea is changing the rules of engagement. you knew yesterday, we reported that the defense ministers that resigned under president li. he allowed that resignation. he's changing the rules of engagement and he's going to make it easier for south korea to strike back. >> as they start to use more force, both sides begin to disengage and all sorts of experts say that the diplomatic experts say you cannot begin disengagement, force equals disengagement. they need to be coming back to the table. one of the key in all this is china but south korea needs to be on board in these negotiations. it can't just be the united states with the north koreans. it's an absolute hornet's nest. >> the u.s. has sent the aircraft carrier the uss george washington, i believe it is to the yellow sea. it will be there for exercises starting on sunday. that's the u.s. saying china, if you don't do something, we are there. we have south korea's back. it's time for you to get involved. >> president li has increased the amount of weapons and the number of troops guarding that island now. >> we'll talk to ambassador bolten who is coming up here on the show in a little while to get his take on all this. he says some of the state department had been denyers for years about the potential outbreak there and now maybe we're seeing the product of that denial. >> let me tell you the other headlines. what you missed while you were sleeping. wikileaks says it will soon release 2.8 million classified documents. they reportedly touch on a wide range of classified foreign policy issued including u.s. intelligence operations in other countries. the state department is worried some of the information could anger our key allies. they've already briefed canada, great britain and australia about these documents. new details this morning in the case of a missing college student. police now releasing a description of what 20-year-old jenny lynne watson might have been wearing when she disappeared. deputies describing a tan sweatshirt, a pair of blue, green and white pajama pants and white sox. police have been searching for watson since last friday. that's when the coed and ballet dancer disappeared from her family's home outside of syracuse, new york. she had just returned home for the holiday break. three teenage boys missing for 50 days and presumed dead are now safely back on land this morning. the boys were spotted by fishermen some 800 miles from where they originally went missing near fiji. they survived by eating coconuts and drinking rain water. despite being extremely dehydrated they're expected to be ok. rescue teams had given up their search weeks ago and funeral services were held in their honor. pretty good celebration for those families this morning and call it the first fur. the official white house christmas tree is on its way now to washington this morning. first lady michelle obama has the honor of lighting the 20 foot tall douglas fir later this afternoon. that sinlt the only tree in transit this morning. this giant fir left wyoming about a month ago. >> a month ago? >> a month ago. headed for the front lawn of the u.s. capitol building where it will be lit by u.s. speaker nancy pelosi early next month. >> couple of squirrels that live there, too, will be relocated as a result of that. >> today, all about shopping, as you know. biggest shopping day of the year. guess what? black friday well under way at some stores. sheri lee joins us from alexandria, virginia, at a best buy. you've been open there for an hour now. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. they had hundreds of people lined up out the door ready to rush in right there at 5:00 this morning. you can see people still coming into the store right now. a lot of those folks who are in line are already making their way out. we're seeing them come out with laptops and tv's. nice 55 inch tv i have my eye on. the people that went in this morning, they start with a plan. they come in and do their reconnaissance and know exactly what they want. they got it all mapped out and they're out the door. they're the ones heading home right now. it's been a busy, busy morning here. still a lot of deals. very popular electronics out here. there you go. you see a 32 inch tv coming out. i think that one is running about $399 and it comes with a wii system, i think. so not a bad deal out here and folks just say, you know, this is what it's about. it's a buzz one woman told me. back to you there in new york. >> unbelievable. yeah, and thanks so much, sheri. >> everybody is walking out with a huge -- >> have a plan. she's right about that. if you don't go in with a plan, can you imagine just casually going window shopping like this? you get knocked over. people knocking you over. >> why i don't go on black friday. i don't shop with a plan. most guys wander until they pop up. >> i need some undershirts. >> it might be worth it if you're going to save a lot of money. if you're going to save $25, it's just not worth it. right. >> let's throw this question out to you. new study out this morning. which gender do you think spends more money? men or women? on -- is it specifically black friday, right? it's specifically america's buying trends on black friday. who do you think spends more? >> i think women shop a lot more but men probably spend more. >> see, here's the problem -- here we go. it turns out men actually spend more. you know why? >> you buy the big items. buy tv's, golf clubs. >> oh, you know what? she needs that new blender so we go out and buy that. >> you better not ever do that! >> and women, they buy a lot of other things. they kind of add up. >> i think also men tend to procrastinate and then so later in the game, you just plunk down too much money on, say, a little piece of jewelry. that probably tips the scales a little bit. >> we don't mind that. >> i find that surprising, though. my wife spends far more than i do. she's the one that shops for the kids and relatives. >> she's buying baby clothes, you know, and all my friends that have kids, their shopping goes out the window. >> which states do you think spend the most on average per year for the holiday shopping? holiday shopping? >> that's not surprising. >> who lives in connecticut? perfect! >> this does not include mortgages, right? this is what they spend -- >> the shopping, california and texas falling in there. >> that's how much people are spending $57,000. >> shopping. >> i think lastly was west virginia on the list. >> if you can afford to live in connecticut, i can understand why. connecticut is outrageous! >> this makes sense. we've been reporting a lot of stories and a lot of young adults back home living home with their parents. i'm sure they're not buying a ton for christmas. spending $688 for christmas. unbelievable. >> let us know what your plans are. i want to see some of these photos. send them to us at friends at foxnews.com and you can find us on twitter and show some of the black friday photos a little later in the show. >> good stuff, he's losing support in droves. how can president obama win back key voters with two years left on the clock if the economy does not turn around? >> the fed breaking some more bad news. unemployment, they say, will stick around at 9% for at least another year. we're asking charles payne, should you be saving your money or -- for even darker economic days? are things going to get better? we'll ask them. >> and sheets of ice make the street look like a bumper car ring. ♪ [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] got a cold? 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[ indistinct suting ] what's in your wallet? >> welcome back to "fox & friends" on this black friday. the tsa says those controversial body scanners and invasive patdowns are all procedures that will keep us safe. is it just giving us a false sense of security? with us now is renowned security expert and author of many books on this hot button issue, bruce snyder. nice to see you this morning from minneapolis. welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> first of all, the response. i want to play a soundbite for you from john pistole, the head of the tsa and earlier this week said on "fox & friends" these new advanced screening technologies are necessary. take a listen. >> latest intelligence obviously indicates from christmas day that an individual with a nonmetallic bomb that could and should have gone off, frankly, given the concealment design and everything, we would not have been picked up through the walking metal detector so the advanced imaging technology machines that are in about 70 airports now, about 400 machines, give us the best opportunity to detect that kind of device. it's so they opt out of that which umar farouk abdulmutallab could have on christmas day if he was here, they want to make sure he had a thorough patdown. that type of device would have been discovered. >> i imagine you disagree with that comment. >> yeah, i mean, it's looking at it far too specifically. i mean, yes, the question is not whether we would have caught the underwear bomber because he picked a plot we weren't looking for so sort of by definition, what we looked for is not what they're going to do and i don't like security that requires us to guess correctly. i'd rather us step back and spend the money on investigation and intelligence. stuff that works regardless of what the next underwear bomber does. >> we have a number of experts on the show that seem to suggest this backscatter technology and full body scanners that we're seeing here don't work in the first place and we're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars for this. for technology that doesn't work. >> sorry. they catch some things and not others. so we're looking for plastic explosives, what the shoe bomber did, what the underwear bomber did and in some instances, it will find it but it's not going to catch body cavity bombs that we know have been used. it's not going to catch -- if it's very thin, it's not going to catch it if he blows up his explosive in the security line. so playing this game where we're guessing. >> and i guess you're suggesting that the homeland security department is doing this in an effort to appear they're doing something. >> there's an interesting political game going on. when something happens, the public demands that something must be done. and you have to do something to make sure that thing never happens again. otherwise, your career is over. even if it makes more sense to do nothing which in this case it does, you have to appear to do something and that was true against 9/11, against the shoe bomber, against the underwear bomber. it's not either party. you have to look strong. so you're forced to deal with yesterday's threat instead of tomorrow's threat. >> something more that is a question and answer session than hundreds of thousands of dollars, is that something that you suggest? >> the biggest airport is about the size of sacramento airport. it's a small regional airport in the united states, we can't take the israeli model and scale it into the u.s. it's not going to work. >> the israelis might disagree with you and say one airline lands at a gate, that's the same all over the country. bruce snyder, appreciated you joining us this morning on this post holiday friday. thanks, bruce. toss it to ainsley to find out what's coming up on the show. >> thanks. the fed says unemployment will stick around at 9% for years to come. so should you be hoarding your cash just in case things get worse? and does president obama have any chance of getting re-elected facing such a dire prediction? well, charles payne from the fox business network is here and he's going to be with us next after the break. also, should you spend the rest of today hunting for deals or should you wait until cyber monday to get more for your money? we'll explain the differences in those deals and a big happy birthday to tina turner, the queen of rock 'n' roll is 71 today. you wouldn't know it if you go to her concert. she's amazing. happy birthday, tina! join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration foa $599 lease offer on the 2011 x >> all right. welcome back here to "fox & friends" on this black friday. >> time for your shot of the morning. high school football team in indiana channelling its inner glee, if you will, to win their school a little cash. take a look at their beyonce work. >> ♪ all the single ladies all the single ladies all the single ladies put your hands up ♪ >> this scene reminds you of something you saw on that show, the decatur central high school team imitating a scene from "glee" for a local video contest, the spoof won the guys $300. that's not all, though. the team says the performance triggered a three game-winning streak. what does that tell high school football teams? >> yeah, exactly. >> time to dance, fellas. >> was that you in high school? >> yeah. >> it does look a little bit like me. i had some moves back then. they're all gone now. >> i like the little jazz hands you have, too. >> all right. >> the man known as the honeymoon killer is heading to alabama next week to face murder charges in the death of his wife. dave watson who served prison time in australia after his wife drowned on her honeymoon returned to the u.s. on thursday. alabama was forced to agree not to seek the death penalty before australia would extradite the man. clayton? >> the afghan president's chief of staff says it was the british who were duped into believing the taliban's second in command was ready to negotiate a deal. muhammad daldazi says another afghan presidential advisor identified the man as not taliban. he says the episode shows negotiations with the taliban should purely remain afghan business. >> what a nightmare there. two americans and a russian back on earth following months at the international space station. the astronauts touched down safely in kazakhstan. americans shannon walker and douglas reloc had been in space since june. during their mission, they worked on dozens of experiments. the new group is set to go to the space station neksz month from kazakhstan. >> borat will be on that. >> very nice! >> seattle is still cleaning up after a snow storm caught residents and drivers who you didn't see off guard. look at this. just look at the bus! good nls. that's scary. >> whoa! >> wait for it. >> whoa! >> oh. >> almost hurt there. >> seattle roads turned into a slippery slope, as you can see, with cars crashing into each other and the driveways, poles, bushes. more than 1500 accidents were reported to washington state troopers after several inches of snow fell on the seattle area. >> that's not my stop. >> they're pulling a little lever. let's talk a little sports now. good day in the nfl. it can be unpredictable this year, as you know, one thing we can count on recently is the jets beating the bengals. last night, no exception. the cold and rainy new jersey where the home team was sluggish early. carson palmer to jordan shipley from texas. boy, is the rookie looking good there? bengals lead 7-3 at the half. jets would dominate from there. the former missouri product, 89 yard kickoff return and did it with only one shoe. one shoe, check it out. that was impressive. jets beat the bengals for the third time in less than a year. 26-10 your final. all right, football not going well in the lone star state. game of the day, in dallas, cowboys-saints, late fourth quarter. looking to put the game away. roy williams gets tripped by malcolm jenkins. saints have some life. drew brees, your super bowl champion finding lance moore for the go ahead score. saints up by three. one last shot, from 359 yards out. plenty of leg. not going to do it, though. saints survive 30-27. early game. in detroit, lions playing the role of turkeys yet again. this time against the patriots. tom brady, boy did he have a second half. four touchdown passes all in the second half. that one to deion branch who had a couple of scores. pats overcome an 11-point deficit to win an easy one. 45-24. lions have lost seven straight on thanksgiving day. ouch! lions -- excuse me, jets and patriots next week in new england. that ought to be a good one, friends. >> have the cowboys ever won in the home stadium yet? >> they are struggling, my friend. cowboys and university of texas 8-15. >> alabama is playing auburn today. >> for the iron bowl, national title implications there. 2:30 eastern time. >> let's turn our attention now to the unemployment numbers. a lot of people out of work this holiday season. that's not good news. it's not good news we're learning that the federal reserve predicting these unemployment numbers could remain at this level, over 9% for years to come. even as the economy continues to grow. >> it's disheartening. >> yeah. >> don't want to hear that. >> what does this mean for president obama who made jobs a central issue in his campaign? >> our fox business contributor charles payne is the c.e.o. of wall street strategies. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. >> what's going on, buddy? how was your thanksgiving? >> fantastic. i barely made it here. >> pick a number. >> in time to get here. what's all this mean? i mean, it's tough to read the numbers because we found out from the fed and from the university of michigan the next two years don't look really good. on the other hand, we heard that american companies have one of their best years in terms of profits ever on record. >> and this is a disconnect that's confusing a lot of people who would be investors, you know, a lot of people saying listen, unemployment, housing market, by the way, continues to spiral out of control. yet, there's a lot of corporate profits. what we don't realize is most of these corporate profits are being -- are coming from overseas. and so there's a disconnect and one of the things i've been trying to do, it's been so hard the last couple of years getting people to invest in the stock market because they see the carnage around them. they're intimidated or afraid of the administration, fiscal policy, the fed printing money and all those are 1,000% legitimate concerns and yet, they've missed opportunities of a lifetime. when you buy apple, they're making half their money overseas. it's not necessarily a reflection of their domestic economy. >> that's why they're not hiring in america because a lot of profits are being made, you're saying, they're american companies but they're -- what the products are being sold overseas? >> they're being sold overseas. in some cases, they're being made overseas. the world is -- this is what the -- the quandary that we're in right now. in the past when we stubbed our toe as a nation, we had no competition for capital or resources. >> right. >> now, you know, there's a pool of money, it's considering maybe going to brazil, vietnam, india, china, this is -- we're at a crossroads in this country without a doubt where we're going to have to figure this out because we can't just -- we just can't rebound simply because we're america. we have to make it happen. >> we talk about the american resiliency and, of course, president obama out there talking about this repeatedly, he was over there in portugal talking about this as well. this morning, we're learning that portugal might have to get a bailout this morning. is this american resiliency a kanard? are we not going to be bouncing back any time soon? is china risinrising? >> it won't happen because we think it's going to happen. another thing that we have a quandary, we're pushing our dollar down to be more competitive around the world. germany's finance minister made a good point a few weeks ago when he said listen, germany isn't a great export country because we have a weak currency, it's because we have products that people are willing to pay extra for. our coffee machines and cars and things like that. i think manufacturing is the key and personally, if i was the president, i've been thinking about this for a while. i would set up something maybe two, three years from now, akin to the world's fair but the america's fair. i would set up a fund, maybe $50, $100 billion, i would put american minds to work and put manufacturing excellence on display. if you think about the chicago world fair, it ushered in american exceptionalism and ushered in incredible sort of innovations and really sparked a run in this country where we became the number one country in the world. >> he's going to have to do something. how is this going to affect the elections in 2012? >> some people will never blame the president, we know that, you know, no matter what happens, some people will think it's bush's fault but i got to tell you, beginning the elections and i hope they can put politics aside. this is so critical and this is why, again, for me, it's tough because i -- i've seen so many people not make money in the last couple of years. i begged people -- i've given people stock ideas that were grand slams and the stock is up. they already sold it. >> i didn't give you stock. what? >> i'll give you the two weeks free trial. >> i thought we were friends, charles! >> that's the most -- i got to tell you guys how heartbreaking it is for me. let's say wednesday i had a great winner in guess jeans. >> guess jeans? >> up huge. >> i just recommended it november 18th. up huge. i go, a couple of people had already sold it. people in this country are so afraid. while they should be afraid, as far as investing is concerned, the rest of the world is beating down -- beating down our necks and there's a way to make money off that. >> you can see more of this expertise today. i'm going to be joining charles. he's hosting "varney & company" today and i'll be sitting in with you all show. i'll get these great stock tips the entire show and i won't pass them on. >> good. >> i'm looking for one, buddy. >> at the commercial break, hook me up with one. >> you got it. >> come up on the show, don't like these patdowns? the statements coming out of the white house have money wondering, are they coming to our trains, subways, even buses? >> an entire church is uniting in one common dream. can they lose weight as a church? they pulled it off. miracle pastor joins us next. >> to a warehouse in mesa, california, several people are in custody and an unknown amount of marijuana has been seized. earlier this month, feds seized 30 tons of marijuana. ainsley? >> thanks. it's a leap of faith as two church congregations, they planned together for a preholiday weight loss challenge and the man behind this mission is doran, the senior pastor at the church and joins us now from the d.c. bureau. i love the name of this church. that's great. it says the too fat church. explain what this means to us, pastor. >> well, i'm going to take the charge to say that i was the too fat pastor. i was 353 pounds and i came to a conclusion that i've been teaching discipline, trying to teach people to have faith and i myself was losing the battle of the weight. the battle of the bulge. a few of my friends got together and we decided, ok, we need to lose the weight and then i had a diagnosis from the doctor that i just really needed to get on blood pressure medicine so i asked a few people on the church if they'd join me with it to reduce my high blood pressure medicine, try to come off of it and they said they would and before they knew it, turned into a mandate. we all got together and we changed our eating habits, changed our exercise routines, we changed just about everything about us in a 90 day mandate. >> how much did you lose? >> i lost 42 pounds in 90 days. >> good for you. how much did the church -- you have a few churches, from what i understand. how much combined did you lose? >> we have a church in georgia and one in maryland. combined weight, we lost approximately 3900 pounds. >> wow. >> and myself, i lost 42 pounds. i went from a size 48/50 waist to a now 42, possibly 40. but i think today put on an extra two inches. yesterday put on an extra two inches. >> that's great. i love this because you actually stand there, you preach to the crowd and you said, you looked at yourself in the mirror and you said i need to change something. how has this affected your church as a whole? >> well, it's brought so much energy. we are -- we're not over. we're in the next phase where we're maintaining it and developing new habits. but there's an excitement that's come back to the church for the first time and for the first time, i can say i'm actually happy. actually gotten the weight off, emotional weight as well as physical weight. >> that's the thing. you said first, it starts with the emotion. so you have to get into the groove and you have to start those habits. what's the hardest part of all this? what was the hardest part? >> i kn au >> i think the hardest part for me is i went on a raw diet. i was under the impression, i learned you could reverse heart disease and reverse blood pressure on a raw diet so i went raw so it was hard adapting my palate, i'm used to eating lasagna and pizza. >> in the holiday season. >> right. >> so i went raw. the good thing is i looked up and like even yesterday, i didn't even have an appetite and i only ate one time which for me is amazing. >> you are wonderful. what an inspiration for all of us. i wish you the best! >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. well, call her the president's latest problem. worries that nancy pelosi could squash his good faith attempts to cooperate with the g.o.p. plus black friday or cyber monday? where do we really get the better deals? we'll talk to a consumer expert about that. ♪ [ male announcer ] open up a cadillac during our season's best sales event and receive the gift of asphalt. experience the exhilarating cadillac cts with a direct injection v6. it's the one gift you can open up all year long. see your cadillac dealer for this attractive offer. backed by the peace of mind that only comes from cadillac premium care maintenance. the season's best sales event. from cadillac. >> black friday is already here and people have started lining up at sears, the store opened at 4:00 a.m. today and it was open yesterday on thanksgiving. sandra smith of the fox business network joins us from chicago. hey, sandra! >> hey, good morning to you. it's an early morning here in downtown chicago. doors opened at this sears flagship store at 4:00 a.m. and guess what? there's been some big giveaways. this gentleman over here just won a $500 gift card. pretty awesome and what -- come on, come on. what are you going to spend it on? >> yeah, there's a lot of stuff in mind. >> like what are you going to buy? >> the gifts for family and stuff. we are new in chicago. like we came from india just five months back so we have to set up our home. >> one of $500 gift cards. you need to get shopping and you have the local radio station in here. so a lot of these stores, a lot of the retail stores, the department stores are doing whatever they can to get people through the door. that was your job. >> that was it and i'll tell you what, man, that line was up michigan avenue and people were here to get tv's and appliances. we had giftcards for the first 50 people in line, we gave away three $500 giftcards. it was huge! >> the deals. >> i know. that's definitely the sentiment around here. we have some shoppers here, too. everybody wants to know, what are you guys going to be buying? >> if i had the $500, it would be a tv. but has to be a sweater. >> now it's going to be a sweater. we don't want to hear that. there's all kinds of doorbuster deals out here. there's shoes for $500. there's tv's half off so you have people that are out here shopping, whether or not they're going to spend more than last year, that's in question but sales are expected to be up a couple percent this holiday season. >> i love your guest there who said he just moved here from india six months ago and got $500. good for him. welcome to america. >> i know. big win. exactly. >> welcome. >> thank you so much. all right, i'll hand it to dave. they'll answer your question, sandra, what's better, shop today or shop monday? >> that's what we're going to find out. should you hold out and wait for cyber monday? that's the question. >> i think wait but let's ask. christine is the editor in chief of consumer search.com and go ahead and rain on those folks' parade. are they all wasting their valuable time and should they have just slept in today and shopped on line? >> well, if you're not in line already, you kind of missed the boat but it's ok. it is not too late. black friday has really turned into black friday season. really. so just like last year, we're going to see deals all up and through christmas. so if you overslept today, don't worry about it. >> so good deals coming all weekend, you can -- these deals continue not just today. let's start with some of the first tips and important about shopping on line or in stores, finding deals. how do we find these deals? we did a segment here yesterday on the show, almost impossible. our producers had to dig through and find some of these hidden nuggets out there. it's difficult. >> yeah, cyber monday is different from black friday because you don't have a bunch of circulars that you can put on the living room table so it's all about social media. sign up for your store's facebook pages, you can always unfriend them after the holidays if you don't want to keep them around. that's really how it is to find about these stuff is sign up for the social media thing. a little fuzzier cyber monday. >> best buy won't be hurt if you defriend them after the holidays. >> no. >> if you see a good price, don't stop there. why? what do you do? >> well, it's -- we did a lot of comparison shopping when it comes to the prices. just because it's in a really big font or says it's a daily deal does not mean it's really a great price. so do a quick google search, plug it in. see what prices come up and a lot of times, probably 50% of the time, we found a better deal at another store. >> you can use one of those red laser things on the iphone, scan the bar code and an instant coupon. it's free. a lot of those apps are free. number three, on your list, what a great price from a store you've never heard of? >> you need to be a little cautious if you see a terrific price and you've never heard of the store or it sounds kind of familiar but you're not really sure. check the store's ratings on a site like bizrate.com that lets people rate the store experience. that's a great idea. also, if it's a really, really low ball price, be sure that you're not getting a refurbished model. this is especially dangerous for electronics. just make sure you're not getting an open box or -- >> that can easily happen on amazon and web sites like that. look for the new button. >> that's right. >> one thing my wife always does is look for free shipping. why is that so important? >> well, it's easy to see that a great price can go away really quickly if you have to pay a lot for shipping. >> eat up the entire savings. >> exactly. most sites will have free shipping. general cutoff date looks to be about the 16th for the end of the free shipping deals. so get your orders in by then. >> next problem and if your final tip, check for the return policies and watch out for those restocking fees that they seem to hide there for you. especially for some of the bigger ticket items, right? >> electronics especially, computers, open box, laptops, if you've opened up the bobbix, th have to put all that packaging back together. if you need to return something, they need to hit you with a restocking fee. that's a big bummer. it can be as much as 15%. >> i've heard some computers going up 20 and even higher. bottom line, get in line and go fight the crowds on friday or is cyber monday just as good if not better deals? >> cyber monday is just as good and on-line shopping throughout the season is going to be good. you can do it in your pajamas which i personally like a lot. >> we can do a show in our pajamas, if we could. >> you've almost done all your christmas shopping and been shopping since july so it's not all done in these two or three day period. >> have a great holiday. thanks so much for sharing these tips. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> the web site is consumersear consumersearch.com. coming up on the show, who thought this was a good idea? 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"fox & friends" continues right now. >> happy black friday. welcome in to "fox & friends" on this friday. we hope you had a wonderful thanksgiving holiday and you are recovering this morning. i'm clayton morris, ainsley earhardt and dave briggs in for steve, brian and gretchen. >> for some it's a happy black friday. for some it's a nightmare in there. a lot of people doing their shopping through their mobile phone this year. not even logging on to their computer at all. >> some of the apps are pretty incredible. amazon created a window shopping app at the ipad. you're window shopping. >> you can put your product in it and tells you where the best deal is. >> right. unbelievable. we've asked you to send in your black friday photos. we've already gotten a bunch of photos from people, viewers who have braved stores. one guy said eases at the fourth store already. he was there at like 4 clock alcohol-- 4:00 and he's sent some photos of some lines. >> tat a time when public anger is growing over invasive procedures at airports, could we see these patdowns elsewhere? malini wilkes live in d.c. this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning, those body scanners are expensive and not even at every airport yet. it's unlikely you'll see them at public places any time soon. though homeland security secretary janet napolitano is expressing concerns about terrorists targeting other modes of transportation. first day went pretty smoothly despite the new body scanners and patdowns at airports and that passenger threated to slow down travel by opting out of the new revealing scanning machines. napolitano has defended the machines. in an interview, she said they give us a better chance of finding things that could be used as explosives. she said terrorists are continuously probing, looking at attacking trains and other types of transportation and she is already focusing on how to protect those systems. >> i think the tight are we get on aviation, we have to also be thinking now about going on to mass transit or the trains or maritime. so what do we need to be doing to strengthen our protections there? >> so could we see those body scanning machines in the subway station or the train station? napolitano did not directly address that possibility but senator joe lieberman has authored a bill that would allow testing of the body scanners for security at certain federal buildings. clayton, dave, ainsley, back to you. >> on our air how expensive the infrastructure issues we're trying to do that would be nearly impossible. >> impossible. and i think janet napolitano is well aware of that. the secretary knows we cannot body scan pat down every person at every subway station but something needs to happen. you and i have talked about this a number of times. how many thousands of people go into the subway systems every day with no screening whatsoever. let alone amtrak as well. >> and we're relying on see something, say something. you know, you see someone leave a bag there. that's what our security level is right now in some of the subways and public transportation but, you know, the tsa folks are fighting back a little bit this morning. a lot of the tsa employees not terribly happy. they're saying look, we're not bad. we're doing our job. a lot of these tsa employees who you interact with and go to the airport, they're wonderful, wonderful people but now they're being thrust into the new arena where they have to do the scans and they're coming out with a bit of a message this morning, at least some of them. >> what are they saying? >> they're saying look, we're not perverts. that's a quote from a tsa agent saying look, we're just doing our job. we're not perverts. >> if you read the material about how they do the full body scans, you might not know this. the guy or the woman who is actually looking at these images is in another room. they don't see your head but see your body. >> the patdowns are a different -- the technology of the scanners and then there's the patdown. you have one choice so the people that are having to do this, the frisking, and the groping and all of that. >> even the back of their hands, big deal. big deal. let's get over it. there's that one guy in california, he was on the news saying let them pat me down. at my age, i want them to! not everyone is against it. >> it was a relatively trouble-free national opt out day and has been pretty smooth. there was a bit of a hiccup for one of the jonas brothers, however. joe jonas, when flying from the middle east back here to new york had a bit of an incident. he bought some cheese knives while he was over in dubai and thought he'd bring them back to new york. when he got to security, his girlfriend says honey, where did you put those knives that you bought? and he said "whoopsies". he had them on his carry-on luggage, some knives. it was not an international incident, though. they allowed him to take them out of his luggage and store them beneath the plane. all was ok. >> flight was delayed as a result getting out of the gate. >> for one of us, they'd say throw the knives away and wouldn't hold up the plane and go store them underneath. >> and joe jonas with that -- you got to watch that language. whoopsies. that's like dave briggs language. >> right. >> let's get to the headlines it morning. start with a fox news alert. the situation on the korean peninsula continues to deteriorate. north korea warning of war now if the u.s. and south korea go ahead with military maneuvers. fresh artillery blasts were heard near the south korean island that was attacked earlier this week. those blasts turned out to be north korean training exercises. this as south korea reinforces its defenses and the u.s. commander gets a tour of the damage following that attack. wikileaks says it will soon release 2.8 million classified documents. they reportedly touch on a wide range of classified foreign policy issues including u.s. intelligence operations in other countries. state department is worried some of the information could anger key allies and they've already briefed canada, great britain and australia about the documents. new details this morning in the case of a missing college student. police now releasing a description of what 20-year-old jenny lynn watson might have been wearing when she disappeared from her family's home in upstate new york. deputies are describing it as a tan sweatshirt, a pair of blue green white pajama pants and then white sox. police have been searching for watson since last friday. the coed and ballet dancer had just returned home for the holiday break. and the official white house christmas tree is on its way to washington this morning. first lady michelle obama will be presented with the 20-foot tall douglas fir later this afternoon. that isn't the only tree in transit this morning. take a look at this, huge tree. this giant fir left wyoming a month ago for a nationwide tour headed to the front lawn of the u.s. capitol building where it will be lit by house speaker nancy pelosi early next month. >> it's almost as bigs the mountain range in the background. >> shoppers getting an early start this morning. we've been talking about this. in search of the best black friday deals. some stores among wal-mart and target are among thousands of retailers that dramatically stepped up the deals on their web site hoping to lure those on-line shoppers. in stores today, if you're heading out for black friday, need to look for the expanded hours and the deep discounts. do your homework. >> tips for you up on foxnews.com we should mention, too, in case you missed our last segment with christine, great info about the deals and where to find them. >> nbc named the developer behind the mosque near ground zero to its list of people of the year. will it come at the cost of credibility? our political panel weighing in on that subject next. >> then sheets of ice make a seattle street look more like -- >> bumper cars. >> a bumper car ring. >> missed out on the fun. naturally colorful vegetables are often a good source of vitamins, fiber, or minerals. and who brings you more natural colors than campbell's condensed soups? campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ stella: hmmm. we're getting new medicare benefits from the new healthcare law. jane: yea. most people will get free cancer screenings. and 50 percent off of brand name prescription drugs if you're in the donut hole. stella: you read my paper. jane: i went to medicare.gov. it's open enrollment, you know. so i checked out all the options and found a better plan to fit my budget. stella: well, you know what they say...knowledge... jane: knowledge is power. >> welcome back to "fox & friends" on this black friday. well, the controversy over the proposed mosque just two blocks from ground zero is back in the spotlight this week. as nbc named the developer to a list of influential people. here's what he had to say about the mosque plans and not holding his faith accountable for the attacks on september 11th. >> it is going to be a community center to cater to the largest growing residential community in new york state today. >> but it is a place that muslims will come to pray if it's completed. this will be a center for prayer. >> absolutely. well, there's going to be a prayer component. not once have i held my faith accountable for the horrific events of 9/11. >> one of the people of the year, let's bring in our political panel, fox news contributor doug shoen, and the human events columnist and democratic strategist robert zimmerman. nice to see you all. welcome to the show. what was your first reaction to reading this story in>> i have to say my first reaction was this was a joke. i mean, it's an obviously controversial project. the developer has some real financial issues in his past. he has partners who have ties to terrorist organizations. this project is not really something, at least i think is going to promote tolerance and probably going to provoke intolerance so i was really befulgb befuddled and confused and don't understand. >> is it part of that befuddlement because they are the most influential or problematic figure of the year. >> nbc has claimed they've chosen people that inspire outrage and inspiration. this is a guy who not only has been evicted for thousands of dollars in, you know, not paying for his rent in soho but he's also, you know, been known as someone who is very thuggish and has, you know, threatened supposedly someone who was an opponent of the ground zero mosque. not someone i want revered but outraged i'm fine with that. >> outrage or revere, what do you find? >> i'm a little bit questioning why doug isn't particularly befuddled by kim kardashian being chosen. >> i am. >> he's inspired by her. >> he might be inspired by her. look -- >> no. >> whatever we may think of him, the more important point is he has sparked a national debate in our country about the way we look at ourselves, the way our nation relates to the muslim faith, the way we, in fact, relate and understand our constitution. so anyone who is opposed to this and let's recognize he's not being honored. anyone opposed to this is really opposed to open debate and our constitution to the hallmarks of america's greatness. >> doesn't it speak to some of nbc's reporting. they have been positive in the past, this mosque at ground zero and we've seen a number of coverage pieces where they have been. does this support that bias, perhaps? >> it certainly suggests an expansive willingness of what should be a person of the year. i think the problems that she raised are real problems. i certainly have doubts and bob, i don't doubt the constitutional principles. i doubt this choice because this is not the kind of person who i think is deserving of respect and recognition. >> i agree it's sparking national debate in our country which i think is very healthy but do we honor the victims of 9/11 the way we relate to the muslim faith? the way we respond to our own faith and our national principles. >> if that debate is what we were focusing on, that would be fine. this developer is not worthy of recognition. no problems with you, bob. lot of problems with him. >> if you saw the preliminary interview, it looked like a softball interview. i didn't see the full segment. >> we should -- >> let me say, nbc -- >> before we're talking about thuggishness. >> nbc in the past on coverage of this has been extremely not empathetic to people who oppose this morphisque. let's say that. they've been very quick to criticize sarah palin and then they talked about people who -- people who oppose the mosque, they say, don't understand the constitution or don't care about it. this was not about constitutional integrity. >> this is right and wrong, you're exactly right. this just doesn't make sense. >> i oppose it. >> who in the media said people who oppose the mosque don't understand the constitution. >> they said they don't care about it, actually. check out on nbc. they have said that in the past. >> i don't think one reporter -- let's remember most of our leading conservatives recognize that while they are opposed to the mosque, they recognize that that constitution is -- >> right. they have a right to -- >> can't be stopped constitutionally but to recognize a developer with financial issues, ties to shadowy partners with ties to terrorism, that doesn't make sense. that doesn't advance the debate. that's just plain wrong, bob. just plain wrong. >> the fact that we're having this debate. >> debate is a lot better than this choice. >> that choice was -- >> nbc made a mistake. >> i'm not suggesting that we take this guy to lunch. >> we'd to pick up the tab. >> well, we want you guys to continue the discussion on some other topics. great debate on this this morning. in the 8:00 a.m. hour, we'll talk to a retired new york fire chief whose son is a firefighter and died on 9/11. we'll ask him how he feels about nbc's decision. that's coming up next hour on "fox & friends." will nancy pelosi's far left policies prevent president obama from making compromises with the g.o.p.? more with our political panel. i can tell bob can't wait to weigh in on that. then their families thought they were dead but today, news of a miraculous rescue at sea. how these teenage boys survived stranded for nearly two months. >> welcome back. quick headlines for you. french government announcing a new search for the wreckage of air france flight 447. it crashed off the coast of brazil nearly a year and a half ago killing all 228 people on board. investigators have yet to find that plane's black box voice recorders and more explosive chemicals found in a suburban san diego house. police are now afraid of physically moving that home for fear it might actually blow up. they say they've found enough chemicals to do a lot of damage in that neighborhood. over to you. >> thanks, ainsley. will house speaker nancy pelosi prove to be president obama's newest hurdle if the president starts negotiating with incoming congressional republicans? we're back with our political panel this morning. and let me start with you. isn't it nancy pelosi's agenda now, though, to try to push through the progressive agenda? and isn't president obama having to move more towards the center given the midterm elections and doesn't that create a natural conflict of interest? >> actually quite to the contrary. nancy pelosi because she represents comes from california which is the largest congressional delegation and because of her credibility with the left wing of the democratic caucus can help move them to a more centrist position. here's the challenge that president obama faces and speaker boehner faces and that is the republican party has moved so far to the right wing that you see leading conservatives like bob bennett from utah, lisa murkowski from alaska and mike castle from delaware, they were, of course, prominent conservatives but they were dumped because they weren't extreme enough for the republican party to the challenge is going to be whether john boehner who now is in a leadership position can unite his caucus and not just be the speaker of no but provide solutions. >> you're shaking your head. john boehner represents the extremist g.o.p.? >> i was shaking my head at lisa murkowski who is a closet leftie beyond measure. what i want to say is that pelosi is representative of everything that has been rejected this 2010. there was a huge g.o.p. landslide in 2010. the tea party was largely responsible for a lot of that momentum and this is a rejection of the pelosi agenda. >> was it the case, though? we look at all the moderates who lost in this election and it really was the moderates to lost out. she didn't represent the moderates, did she, doug? she really represented the liberal wing of the democratic party. >> and the liberal wing re-elected her and bob is a dear friend of mine but we do disagree. she has shown no signs of moving to the center, acknowledging that the 63 seats that the democrats lost were as a result of policies, people found were out of step with their philosophy on spending, taxing it on big government. the president has begun to move to the center. he's got to move back there to win independents if nancy pelosi doesn't move her caucus, they'll face a big problem in 2012. >> president obama ran as a liberal. he ran as a liberal. did you see him running as an independent voice? >> we're not talking about red america or blue america, united states of america. >> he ran on health care but he ran on -- >> against the individual mandate. president obama has governed contrary to how he was elected. nancy pelosi has been true to her principles. they're just not the principles of the american people. >> here's the challenge. speaker boehner stays true to his party's mission which is to both dismantle medicare for future retirees -- >> i don't think that's going to happen. >> house republicans voted to do that in 2009. if he supports overturn willing wall street regulations and overreaches and attacks these basic mainstream issues, he will lose the mainstream. >> if the republicans overreach, you're right. right now, there's been a mandate for a rollback in the size and scope of government. the republicans and particularly the tea party, you beened be right, may well go too far. there's got to be a centrist consensus in this country to get moving on our problems. whether boehner and pelosi can get together, huge question. >> what speaker boehner is going to represent, hopefully is going to be yes, a big rollback in the size and scope of the federal government. bringing the 10th amendment back to its rightful place, constitutionally and in our society. and in repealing and replacing obama care and replacing it with cost efficient free market solutions. let me just say in response to what you've said before. when people on the right came out to vote and they were looking for what they're voting against, the three faces they saw were nancy pelosi, harry reid and barack obama. >> final word. >> senator boehner has to talk about what he's for. we haven't seen that yet from the republican leadership. >> and americans want -- americans are tired of the party back and forth. neither party particularly happy right now. >> they want conciliation. >> they want to bring people together. unless nancy pelosi and john boehner govern from the center, we all lose. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning. thanks for coming in, folks. happy thank giving, i know with all that turkey, it was hard to get out today. let's it toss it to dave and whs coming up on the show. and ainsley. >> don't forget about me. north korea with a warning to the united states. our military and its allies are on the brink of a war. fox news alert when we come back. >> americans getting a head start on their holiday shopping this morning. some probably haven't even slept yet. a live report on the black friday madness! when we return. ♪ [ male announcer ] open up a cadillac during our season's best sales event and receive the gift of asphalt. experience the exhilarating cadillac cts with a direct injection v6. it's the one gift you can open up all year long. see your cadillac dealer for this attractive offer. backed by the peace of mind that only comes from cadillac premium care maintenance. the season's best sales event. from cadillac. ♪ we need to finish tho projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪ ♪ sally, i'm gonna need 40 copies, obviously collated ♪ wht's going on? 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you bomb your neighbor's house. you bomb your neighbor's house. hey, come over to my house. that's what north korea is doing here. it doesn't make much sense to me. >> a lot of pressure on the president of south korea right now and he's saying they're changing the rules of engagement. he's increasing troops and heavy weapons, heavy artillery on that island that was bombed, when was it, two days ago, it was tuesday night, because i was working that night. and he's accepted the resignation of his defense minister as well. >> yeah, dethat and many people think that was a political move but the defense minister, a lot of people in south korea were very vocal saying why didn't we fight back and do much to engage back with north korea after they bombed us? >> the problem is north korea -- this comes on the heels of north korea with their enrichment programs or facilities, two different facilities there, nuclear facilities with capabilities to build nuclear bombs, many believe. >> the man you want to hear from, john bolten, the ambassador will join us live coming up on the program and he will have the answers to what the u.s. ought to do. does the president really have any options? is the six party talks on the table here? military action, clearly not. >> in other headlines this morning, three teenage boys missing for almost two months in the south pacific and presumed dead now safely ashore this morning. the boys from new zealand were spotted by fishermen some 800 miles out from where they originally went missing near fiji. officials say they survived by eating coconut and drinking rain water. despite being extremely dehydrated, you can see them there hooked town tup to the i. they're expected to be ok. funeral services were already held for these boys. >> doing eulogies. unbelievable. >> dave? >> two americans and one russian are back on earth following months at the international space station. the astronauts touched down safely in kazakhstan. americans shannon walker and douglas weilock had been in space since june. during their mission, they worked on dozens of experiments. a new group now set to the space station next month from kazakhstan. >> well, seattle still cleaning up after a snow storm caught residents and drivers off guard. look at this video. unbelievable. seattle roads turned into slip and slides yesterday. cars crashing into each other, poles, bushes, more than 1500 crashes were reported to washington state troopers after several inches of snow fell in the area. they don't get a lot of this out there. this is unique for them. >> next time, this is an interesting story. next time you're in a japanese restaurant, ask for some mozart on the side. "the japan times" is reporting food processors in that country regularly exposed fruits, vegetables, noodles and even sacky to mozart's music. they say it makes the food taste sweeter and better. consumers apparently agree. the paper says japanese shoppers are willing to pay a premium for food exposed to the music generally and mozart in particular. >> you know, have some claims about that in the united states, of course, where the babies, you put baby mozart and all that stuff, whether or not it works. >> yeah, while you're pregnant, you're supposed to listen to classical music. >> i think we should run it beneath the show for three hours. >> talk a little sports now. while you were sleeping, the jets-bengals met for some late night turkey at the meadowlands stadium, new one, of course. to chilly new jersey where rex ryan's team looked like a little sleepy early on. carson palmer to jordan shipley for the touchdown. former longhorn gets it at 7-3 but the jets dominated this game from there on. brad smith, he's got some skills. the former missouri tiger, 89 yards to the house. and he did it. check it out! with one shoe. that's impressive. 26-10 your final. the third time in less than a year the jets have beat the bengals. next to detroit, lions extended a dubious streak this time against the patriots. tom brady outstanding. four touchdown passes. all in the second half. two to deion branch including that one for 79 yards. pats overcome an 11-point deficit to dominate it 45-24. the lions have lost seven straight on thanksgiving day. that's kind of their deal. that hurts! how about the game of the day in dallas? cowboys-saints, late fourth quarter now. dallas up four looking to put the super bowl champs away. roy williams, hang on to the ball, buddy! he's tripped by malcolm jenkins. saints very much alive. especially withdrew brees leading them. hooking up with lance moore right there. go ahead, score. saints up three. one last shot for dallas but you'd need 59 yards to tie it. >> oh! >> plenty of leg, just a bit less. saints survive 30-27 and today should be outstanding. the auburn-alabama game, 2:30 eastern time. going up to tonight, boise state, nevada at 10:15 eastern. >> i love it. there's like football every day. >> all day, buddy. all morning. >> nonstop. >> you do love it. the wives hate it! you love it, too, don't you? >> you had your black friday. you had your shopping. >> that's true. today is black friday. it's finally here. this after a barrage of advertising throughout the entire month of november. wnyw reporter julie chang joins us outside of a best buy here in new york city. hey, julie. >> hey, guys. i've got just a way to burn off that turkey. how about lugging around this thing? a 55 incher! humongous and it belongs to these guys. you know, i can see where you were going with this. you're like i'm going to get in line and get a doorbuster sale but then you didn't think about how you're going to carry this home, did you? >> not at all. >> i've been watching you guys. you've been standing here for quite a while. how are you going to carry that home? >> hopefully a cab. been calling a couple of friends to see if they could do me some favors. >> i'm no geometry expert, i'm going to tell you, this thing is not going to fit in a new york city cab. how long did you wait in line? what did you pay for that? >> actually i didn't wait in line. i got off of work, came straight over here, paid about $1500. >> how much did you save? >> about $1,000. >> wow! >> wow! ok, now you're going to have to spend $1,000 getting it delivered to your home. i'm just kidding. >> hopefully not. >> all right. all right. you know what? he got lucky. there are people just lined up. i would say about 500 people when i showed up around 4:30 this morning. the first guy in line got here on tuesday night at 10:00 p.m. he had to have his thanksgiving dinner out here. his mom brought him a plate. so crazy. i don't make this stuff up. let's find out what these folks got. what did you get? you got a digital camera? >> yeah. >> how much did you pay? >> me? >> yeah. >> $217. >> how much did you save? >> $187. >> ok. that's pretty good deal, right? yeah. eggs right on the line here. that's a lot of customers they're getting these digital cameras, a lot of folks getting laptops. that's because they've got some great deals. they've got $50 off on ebooks and $200 off on laptops. $300 off on flat screens so you can see why people are rushing in. all right, guys. that's the latest from here. any of you guys want to volunteer to carry that 55 incher home for this guy? >> julie, you should do that. >> tell him to wait for clayton, tell him to hang right there. >> i'll come over and help him take it home. it will be to my home. >> i'll give him the memo. this is the only best buy in the entire country that's open 24 hours. >> which one is it? >> open until -- >> at union square. union square. >> thank you so much, julie. as evidenced as some of the people she was talking to, you can tell they had not slept in like four days. when a microphone is in your face and i'm asking you a question, who me? are you talking to -- yes? >> either these people have been out there for like a week and a half. >> our whole studio erupted in laughter. >> that's an important tip. think about how you're going to get this stuff home. i guess that's really only a problem in new york where you take a cab or subway. >> you're saving $1,000, who cares how you're going to get it home. >> have you been to a target parking lot after people are trying to get the big televisions in there. they're standing there like math wizards trying to jam it in the back of the stationwagon. >> they have like a ford fiesta and bought a 55 inch television. >> that brought us to a good point. you saw the guy there with the 55 inch television screen and saw the next guy with a very expensive digital camera and that gives you an idea which gender might spend the most money at this time of the year of the historically you would think women, right? instinctually, you think that women go out and buy these expensive rings and what not, no, it's men who spend the most probably because of those darn tv's. >> big ticket items and i think dave backed me up on this, we wait until the very last minute and then we run out at the very last minimum you knit. we realize we didn't get what we should have gotten earlier. we get one big item. got that bracelet for you. >> spend more every time when you're last minute shopping. >> that's how i structured my gadget segments. best gadgets for dads first last week. and waiting for the best gadgets for mom the weekend before christmas because that's when dads will go shopping. >> best gadget for a mom. a nice piece of jewelry. >> oh, yeah. see what's why. men wait and we spend that much money. we broke down these numbers interestingly enough by state. where are people spending the most money? connecticut tops the charts. >> that's not at the holiday season. people are seeing those numbers and saying wait a minute, that's shopping throughout the entire year. the state of connecticut, number one, followed by d.c., hawaii, california, texas. i do believe it was west virginia at the bottom of the list. who spends more? old or young people? >> old or young? i would say older because you make more money as you get older auto. auto more disposable income. you got that right. young people $469 on average this time of year. it's that older demographic, though, that you want to target. they're the ones out there buying those big tv's. >> that's interesting. i want to find out how much do we -- those numbers that we were showing with connecticut being the highest doesn't include your mortgage. how much would you spend if you went to your bank account and looked up and added up how much you're spending on clothes, anything that you buy that you don't necessarily need, because i'm going to do that. i'm going to go through. >> i don't want to know. >> do you go on line? >> if that number is close to that, that blows my mind. >> i know. i know auto. au -- >> $57,000. that's the price of a couple of cars. >> we want your photos and stories. shoot some cell phone video and send it to us at foxnews.com. get us all three on twitter as well. companies who backed the president financially starting to see big drops in their bottom lines. are the president's policies to blame here and what the tea party has to do with this. >> traces of lead showing up in the so-called environmentally friendly shopping bags. so can these products make you and your family sick? we'll ask a doctor. >> who is still using lead? aren't we past that? first, though, the trivia question of the day. hey boss! do we have aflac? nah. we have something else. but if you're hurt and miss work does it pay cash like aflac does? nah. or let you spend it in any way you want like for gas and groceries? nah. or help with everyday bills like aflac does? nah nah nah. 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have they taken the bags out? >> yes, what the stores -- the stores were very responsible in how they reacted because they would never sell something as a consumer product that was dangerous. so they immediately called their manufacturer where they get the bags from and asked them to reduce the lead level and they told their -- their -- their people who use the bags they can get a refund if they'd like. >> we're talking about a lot of lead that was found in those bags as well. >> some bags were up to 700, 800 parts per million and acceptable at this moment in time is 300 parts per million. >> still a lot. >> we get to reduce that hopefully. >> and i remember as a child drinking out of plastic cups and some of them had disney characters on the outside of them, what are we learning now about these cups? >> again, we've had -- we've been exposed to lead for the millennium, the problem is we know lead is a toxin and very, very dangerous and if you think about some of the really controversial things like why is autism on the rise and why are we seeing so much adhd, you can get into a good argument and start to say there's a lot of toxins in the environment that we women and young children but especially women when they're early on in pregnancy are being exposed to. >> how do you know? we're surrounded by products. i don't know what has lead in it. how do you know? >> unfortunately, you just have to keep a vigilant eye. things generally that are coming from overseas, you know, china still uses leaded paint. in the united states, we banned that back in 1978 so our country -- we need to be a little more vigilant of things that are coming, that are being imported from out of the country. >> why is lead so dangerous? >> because it's a neurotoxin and in babies in particular if you become, what it first does is makes you anemic and anemia many children can cause loss of i.q. points and that's at low levels. if you get higher levels of toxins, you go into literally brain damage, disability, mental retardation and even death. >> what are some of the signs that parents can look out for? you said anemia. as a parent, how do you know if your child is anemic? >> that's a good question. one thing about pediatricians is we screen for lead. we do that twice during the day the first two years. we do lead screens. >> how do you do that? >> during a blood test and it's routine and no one gets out of it. if you're going to a board certified pediatrician, we'll screen your baby for lead at 9 -- between 9 and 12 months. >> how often do you see the lead -- do you see the increase in lead in babies? >> you know, that's a good point. we're not seeing -- despite the lead in the bags, we're not seeing it as a pediatrician myself, i'm not seeing an increase in massively elevated lead numbers. but the lead numbers are being brought down, we consider acceptable back when i first started in medicine, it was up to 40. now they've brought it down to 10. any child who has a 10 and over, we consider -- you need to look in your house and see where that's coming from. >> interesting. can the lead get in the food? >> no. it would be very, very unlikely. it's on the outside and even on the outside, unless you're washing it or the paint chips off, really not going to get a significant amount. >> dr. mary ellen, thanks so much for being with us. you practice here in new york? >> yes. >> thanks for being here. have to come back. >> thank you. >> companies who back the president financially starting to see big drops in their bottom lines. we'll try to explain that coming up. but first, on this day back in 1942, casablanca debuted. what a great movie. described by many as the best movie ever made. and in 2000, george w. bush is declared the winner in florida. and the presidential election nationwide. and in 1967, the strawberry alarm clock had the number one record. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration foa $599 lease offer on the 2011 x >> all right. we're back and the answer to the trivia question of the day, well, linda hunt. linda hunt. that's the answer. my mom had it wrong. sorry, mom. the winner is rita from hollywood, florida. good work on that one. all right. now let's talk about a tea party survey happening. a newly released nationwide survey finding that general electric's favorability rating dropped by more than 30% after people learned that the company supported president obama's policies. more specifically, talk about cap and trade and health care are at the heart of this survey. now we're learning that tea party activists are willing and able to punish companies that lobbied for obama like g.e. and johnson & johnson. here to explain, fox news contributor so if that wasn't exactly clear to folks, what dick armey and freedomworks want to do is ask people -- how do you feel about g.e.? how do you feel about johnson & johnson and then they came back and asked the same question. if i told you they supported the obama policies, now how do you feel about these companies? >> this research was conducted by two companies. here the deal. big businesses are on a collision course with tea party activists. remember, tea party activists are for limited government. that was the message that they sent to our, you know, politicians during the midterm elections so clearly, they are influential with this. and the poll was conducted to educate consumers, especially conservative consumers that there are companies who are pushing obama's big government agenda which is against tea party activist values. >> and specifically, i think the policies we're looking at involve cap and trade and health care specifically. what's the hope here of a group like freedom works, dick armey's group. is it that they can educate the consumer and therefore, put pressure on a corporation not to support democratic policy? >> here's the thing. you have consumers who are for limited government. g.e., for example, is supporting cap and trade legislation. cap and trade was going to cause energy costs to go up. consumers, now that they're educated they don't have to purchase g.e.'s products. if they're against their values. johnson & johnson, for example, was promoting obama care. we have states that are suing and you have companies that are looking for waivers so how is that working out for them? when consumers are educated they can vote with their wallet and not buy these products because they are against their core values. >> boy, there's a lot of leaps to be made there, ok? g.e. and johnson & johnson are huge corporations. you're asking the average joe consumer to not only think about what policies these companies support but most importantly, they have thousands of diversified brands, probably hundreds of thousands of products. that's a large -- that's a very long leap to make to the consumer to be that educated. >> well, there are other products on the market that consumers can purchase if they are within their values. why would you buy products that are, you know, going to pay and lobby against your core beliefs. >> this is what we're doing. this is what this poll demonstrates. numbers were staggering, especially johnson & johnson who has baby products and they're so concerned about their core image. their numbers plummeted like 50 points based on conservative voters feedback, what they found out that they supported obama care which is a toxic policy and not good for our country. >> this is very interesting because typically it's the corporations with all the power. theoretically, the tea party wants to put that power back in the hands. >> don't be denied, it's very influential. again, the midterm elections but consumers are aware, they're being educated and taking action. it's more of us vs. them. >> that is certainly interesting. from the project 21, also fox news contributor. >> clayton, ainsley, what's coming up? >> thanks so much. coming up, who thought this was a good idea. the developer behind the mosque near ground zero one of the people of the year. we're going to ask the member of the new york city fire department what he thinks about that. >> what's the answer over invasive patdowns? how about more patdowns? controversial comments from the secretary of homeland security. stay with us. long before a cummins diesel engine powered a ram truck.. it roared to life out here. and proved itself here. here. and here. and is only available in a pickup, under here. the ram 5 year 100,000 mile warranty covs you everywhere. ram. >> good morning, it is black friday, november 26th. and now a fox news alert. a stern warning from north korea, along with a fresh round of artillery blasts, the country ordering the united states and south korea to back off or risk going to war. and most americans are not big fans of pat downs. what is the government's plan? how about more of them. you may be subjected to a pat down at a bus, subway, train station, former homeland security secretary of the bush administration coming up on that. >> shoppers up all night to get an early jump on the shopping. we have five coverage at best buy and target. "fox and friends" begins right now. this is "fox and friends" this morning. >> thank you, elizabeth. welcome to "fox and friends" on black friday. thank you for sending in your photographs. some people are stuck in lines. a guy was at four stores already since 4:00 in the morning. >> one store opened at 3:00 a.m., and target and macy's at 4:00, keep sending your experiences and video and photographs. >> never heard of any crazy violence. >> thankfully, no horror stories from a couple of years ago. >> could be violence offer "tickle me elmo." but first the situation in the creans peninsula continues to deteriorate. north korea warning of war. if the united states and south korea go ahead with the planned military maneuvers. and now, live from the white house this morning with more. good morning to you. what is happening? >>reporter: good morning. as you said the white house, excuse me, north korea is warning that the joint u.s. and south korean military exercises that are planned for this weekend could put the peninsula on the brink of way but the u.s. has no plans to cancel the exercises. the north appeared to launch new artillery strikes today when sight of the same island that it hit on tuesday. no round hit that island but there were frightened residents running for shelters. the shelling seemed brazen because the u.s. commander in south korea, general sharp, was touring the island checking damage from the previous attack. the u.s. military says he did not hear the par -- barrage. and the north boasted that the military hit the island on tuesday as punishment for the upcoming u.s. south korean drills involving the carrier the uss journal washington and it warned of another "shower of dreadful fire." both washington and seoul have appeared to china to step in and use their influence to get them to ease the tens and china expressing concern about the joint military exercises near their coast. it appealed to both sides to show restraint. that is from the white house. back to you, dave. thank you very much. from the white house, the military exercises it appears, will go forward. and former ambassador bolton will join us like in 15 minutes to get his perspective on all of that. >> down the road we are talking about 2012 with a reporter here earlier writing a column this weekend about obama's chances of re-election in 20112. the polls do not look good for a second term for the obama administration administration. here they are, down across the board is the president. they broke down each demographic and everyone down. independents played the most important group that he needs to focus on the next two years. >> that is where he had a majority of independents and that carried him into office in 2008. and he is down, though, if you look at the column, he is down the most there, among every other column, independents he lost ten points since 2008 to 2010. women as bad, down 56 percent and every other category down, as well. but independents are the worst. >> if you look at the african-american voters he still has a strong showing, and two years ago 95 percent, and now 89 percent. young voters are at 50 percent and latinos. with the independents, women and caucasians, the ratings have gone below 50 percent. >> we spoke to a reporter earlier on the show and he said it has to be the independents but you have to reach out to women for 2012. the numbers are bad among the young people he had, among independent voters, among women. he is down several points. he will need some help like clinton. he will need republicans to mess up badly which is always possible. they are in charge of the house of representatives now. so, if he can somehow point to the other guys and say though would be worse, maybe you are not totally happy with me but these guys will be a disaster he could get through. >> when can argue that ronald reagan was in worst shape at this point, and bill clinton may have been in worse shape at this point after two years, and ronald reagan had a 10.4 unemployment and he won in a landslide. but there are three things. the one is the economy sex two, a primary challenger for president obama which there will not be i don't think there is a chance; and, three, who the republicans put up. >> we saw the numbers with sarah palin in a led to head patchup, president obama, if the election were held, would crush her 63 percent to 40 percent or something like that, and so it depends. >> but romney load in some hypotheticals but measuring whether this is a success by attacking republicans, that is what president obama did the past election cycle. saying, remember this? you don't want to go back to that. i don't know that will work in 2012 but for bill clinton, though, the economy improved. >> a different economy. >> and reagan, too. the economy improved. if the economy improved all bets are off. a lot can happen in two years. >> reagan had 7 percent growth in the year leading up to his re-election bid. that is why he got re-elected. same thing with clinton. if we are at 9 percent plus unemployment, that is what this hinges on. >> and he said if the president does not turn around he will be a one term president. >> two years to go, long way to go. >> anything can happen. >> so many bets about how this will turn out. >> what else? >> the headlines, we start with a follow news alert. the saudis have broken up a scream to recruit operatives at the moment muslims are most devotional, arresting 149 people over eight months doing recruiting and fundraising outside large religious areas, pilgrimages like this. the saudis say they also foil add plan to attack security force members, journalists and government officials. also, new details in the case of the missing check student, police now releasing a description of the 20-year-old might have been wearing when she disappeared. deputies say she had on a tan sweatshirt, and white socks and police have been sending for her since friday. she just returned home for the holiday break. >> and the federal government is again on edge after wikileaks prepares to release 2.8 million documents. the documents contain classified foreign policy information and will suppose u.s. intelligencests in several foreign countries interchange intelligence efforts in several foreign countries and it could cause our relations with australia, great britain and canada. if you were dreaming of a white thanksgiving day that dream became a reality in pennsylvania, with snow in downtown philadelphia and later changed to a chilly rain wiping out snow stuck on streets, lawns, and trees in and around that city. so a white thanksgiving for those guys. >> pocono mountains i was there for thanksgiving and i was like a christmas card. >> but not good shopping weather. >> rain in new york. snow in the midwest could hurt the numbers because biggest shopping day of the year is black friday. we will go live to a reporter who is covering all the madness. our reporter joins us from texas looks like we are seeing flat screens being rolled out. where are you, buddy? >>reporter: good morning to you. we are at a super target east of dallas. and you saw a lady rolling by with a big screen tv. the electronic items are the big sellers this morning. this place opened up at 4:00 this morning, local time, and some folks have been here since 4:00 yesterday afternoon. they want to take advantage of the big deals as we talked about, the electronic items are the big sellers and some folks buying 12 tv's at a time, 46" screen tvs for less than $300. that is what people are taking advantage of. you can see the lines for the registers every available register at the super target is being used right now, long lines here, and all hands on deck when it comes to employees and more than 100 employees called in to work this day and this target, this super target is the most used target in north texas, dallas-ft. worth area when the stores open this morning, they anticipated there are 3 the -- 3,000 people in here immediately. crazy scene but we understand that people are being nice to each other, and civil this morning. no chaos. >> mice to you now. but when you reach over to grab the last "tickle me elmo," all hell will break loose. >> they are southerners. we will show you something here right quick, we grabbed a couple of the tv's and we left to, love to shoot some video, we left to shoot video and 9 tv's were missing, and our gear was wrapped around them and they were gone so we tracked them down and someone say they accidentally took them. sure. sure. >> security cameras at a super target. >> you are taking those home, shopping and working at the same time. not a bad deal. don't tell anyone, please. >> coming up, are par be pat downs invasive? are they making our airports safer? we asked someone from the homeland security if they would do it differently. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] every day thousands of people are switching from tylenol® to advil. to learn more and get your special offer, go to takeadvil.com. take action. take advil®. >> the backlash grows over the t.s.a. security measures many claiming the pat downs are a violation of their privacy. and, now, homeland security secretary napolitano says they could be coming to mass transit like trains and subways. and mr. baker was the assistant secretary for department of homeland security under george bush and joins us live from providence, rhode island, this morning. good morning to you. is this the right next step? bring the similar t.s.a. procedures to buses and subways and public transportation? >>guest: i think that is going to be very difficult. there are millions of people would travel each day by subway and bus. and the likelihood we could install machines to check them all is practically zero. >> it will be a difficult task something the homeland security should focus on in some way. there was an interesting article in "politico" this week floating the idea of a national database. people are up in arms over violating their privacy in terms of the pat downs but what about if you start looking to people's backgrounds, form a profile with a national i.d. card hch not a driver's license -- specifically to fast track people through security. is that a good idea? or the body scans the right way to go? >>guest: well, i think the privacy zealots pushed us into the kinds of scans you are seeing right now where we are just looking for weapons and treating everyone exactly the same. so nuns and grandmothers are treated like everyone else. it is better if we could do security based on what we knew about you rather than just treating everyone exactly the same. and people who are suspicious would get much more attention than people that everyone knows are not a threat. >> i talked to self -- several soldier whose have returned from wars and say when they go through security they are the ones that have secondary screening, the people who fought for our country are the ones getting the further scrutiny. so there is something off about this. do you feel the country system is keeping us safe from terrorists? >>guest: well, the current system, given we are look for weapons and we do not have a way to vary the kind of security we use depending on information about people, the current system is about all we can do. we know al qaeda can hide enough explosives to bring down a plane in underwear and they will keep doing it until we demonstrate that is not going to work for us. and so we do have to do that in the short run. in the long run i would like us to use more intelligence so we can vary the kind of scrutiny that travels get. >> i love the idea of a national database, some sort of card to fast track people we know are not a threat. but moving on in other developments in regard to the color-coded threat levels we have heard about in the post 9/11 time, it is an orange threat? red threat? people do not know what it means. is it long overdo to change the system? and what can be done to greater improve it? >>guest: well, it is time to change the system. it has been a long time since the level, the alert level has changed since 2006. people do not pay attention to it. we are at the point where people are mature enough about the threat that they can listen to the government say "this is the nature of the threat we are worried about today," and take action based on what the government is saying. rather than just acting as if we have to be told it is this color or that color. >> what do you see changing? they will come out and say what you need to do? what you look out for? >>guest: them probably say these are the kinds of threats that are imminent and these are the measures that we're taking, the things you should be alert to. and most of us are not going to overreact to that. but we will value the information. and it will tell us more than the color-coded system. >> thank you mr. baker for being with us this holiday weekend. have a good week. coming up north korea warning the u.s., today, back down or we could be going to war. we ask a former ambassador to the u.n. how real are the threats. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles of complimentary scheduled maintenance, and no cost replacement of wear and tear items visit your jaguar dealer during the platinum celebration foa $599 lease offer on the 2011 x we get double miles on everyurchase. so we earned a holiday trip to the big apple twice as fast! dinner! 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>>guest: well, for the past several years, including i am sorry to say in the last years of the bush administration, there was a campaign going on in effect to deny that north korea was engaged in extensive uranium enrichment activities because that got in the way of finding another deal with the north koreans where we could provide them economic and political assistance. so, this, the revelation particularly of the uranium enrichment facility could be a wake up call to the obama administration yet further evidence that the policies of the past, which essentially involve appeasing forth korea in hopes they will not undertake aggressive behavior, failed and need to be abandoned. >> the question this weekend, when the u.s. military along with south korea is about to do military exercises on sunday if the yellow sea. china already expressing discomfort with this. they do not want us to do this. the military exercises, though have been planned for a long time and not just a result of the recent attacks. north korea says all out war could unfold as a result of war. do you buy that? and what is the u.s. to do in response? >>guest: i don't buy the north korean threat. this, again, is part of their pattern. they bluster. they undertake actual military activity like the shelling of the island. but it is intended to set up a return to the negotiating table where we try to provide them assistance, a form of extortion that from the north korean point of view has worked. we need to continue with the exercises although as you correctly point out they were scheduled long ago. north korea will not see that as a form of pressure. with respect to china, after the north koreans sank the south korean naval vessel in march, we backed off exercises in the yellow sea because of chinese opposition. it would be a terrible mistake for the united states to back away again. those exercises would be in international waters, we have every right to be there even with military vessels and it would be a very bad signal of weakness to peept our backing away. >> absolutely. and it blows my mind, mr. ambassador, i liken it to if i invited you over to thanksgiving day dinner, and you want the united states to sit down at the table to noabt, i invite you over for thanksgiving day dinner and i bomb my neighbor in an effort to get you to come to my house. that is essentially what north korea is doing here. how are we to take this? why are we to respond and it is down with them? >>guest: well, we should not. but the north koreans have used this over and over again. they have almost a playbook they pull out every couple of years. a favorite phrase is if we don't it is down they will unleash a sea of fire on the korean peninsula. we have not heard that yet but maybe it will come in the next couple of days. it is risky dealing with north korea. no doubt. they are right in the middle now of a leadership transition, so you have to behave prudently but if you empower them by giving into the kinds of belligerent activities the lesson you are teaching, it works. >> you brought up the change of power to kim jong-un, the third in line, the third son, and the military transition, do we see trying to get the united states to sit down at negotiating table but a flexing of muscle so say we have a new leader about to take the helm of the military? >>guest: that could be part of it. this is also an opportunity for the united states, a risky period for all concerned, and the regime in north korea is actually fragile. and i think we should be putting pressure to try and bring that regime down. the way to solve this threat, the nuclear threat and others from north korea, reunification of the peninsula. that ought to be the long-term policy of the united states. >> unbelievable. north korea, all eyes this week at white house i am sure. mr. ambassador, great to see you. have a wonderful rest of your local day week -- your holiday weekend. >> and a judge shot down the controversial immigration law of arizona but that is not stopping similar laws. stay tuned. don't want to deal with a lot of flibbity-flab or mumbo-jumbo. sounds like you need to name your price. no gobbledy-gook? 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who now control the house of representatives. if you believe what is coming out of nancy pelosi and the liberal left, it looks like compromise might not be on the way. i will quote a democrat from california, chairs the liberal progressive wing, if you will, saying nancy pelosi will lead democrats "in pulling on the president's shirt tails to make sure that he doesn't move from center right to far right." interesting observation saying that the president has been if center right and might move far right. i don't know if that is the observation of most in the country. >> people wonder why she would get that leadership position, she is very popular among the liberal wing of the party and she was re-elected as a liberal leader of the party. the moderates lost in the midterm, and we had a former democratic pollster under pick become said nancy pelosi has to move to the center for this to be successful. take a listen. >> she has shown no signs of moving to the center, acknowledging that the 63 seats that the democrats lost were as a result of policies people found were out of step with their philosophy on spending, taxing, and big government. the president has begun do move to the center, and he has to move back there to win independents and if nancy pelosi doesn't move her caucus, the democrats will face a bad 2012. >> at the heart is whether or not the democrats will work with republicans to try to get something done. president obama has to be seen as the arbiter. >> he had a meeting asking the lead republicans to meet with him and lead democrats to meet to come together. >> but if nancy pelosi is saying "hold back," the compromises we hope to push through, whether tax cuts or otherwise, some of the provisions in energy policy, there will be compromise and they will need to get through. >> that was the biggest fear, people that said we do not necessarily think nancy pelosi is the right way to go forward because she might dig in her heels and say, yes, no compromise on the bush tax cuts, which will leave members with a giant tax increase on january 1st so if that compromise doesn't come in 2012 they could say here is nancy pelosi, it is her fault and will that play out in the polls, 160,000 ads run against her in the last election cycle if they stay at it this could be another 100,000 when we come around again. >> he gives more artillery to run in 2012. do you think nancy pelosi will keep president obama from compromising with republicans? and now some headlines. >> the afghanistan presidential chief of staff says the british were duped into believing the second in command of the taliban was ready for a deal. another presidential advisor identified the man as national taliban and this shows that negotiations with the taliban should be left purely to the afghans. >> well the fresh -- french government launching a seven for a jetliner that crashed off the cost of brazil a year and a half ago killing all 228 people. investigators have searched the waters near the crash site three times but still have not found the black box voice recorder. now, how is this for a story? we are all cheering this process in the rescue of these guys. three teen boys, missing for 50 days in the south pacific, now back on line. the boys from new zealand were spotted by fishermen 800 miles from where they originally want missing near fiji. they survived by drinking rain water and eating coconut but they will be okay. teams gave up the search weeks ago, and funeral services were already held. family members were mourning them, and they were surviving by eating raw fish out there, as well. >> i know their parents are so glad to see them. >> how bad were the road conditions in seattle after a rare snowstorm? streets turned into skating rinks as vehicles slid into poles and bushes and each other. look at this bus. the state troopers report 1,500 crashes after the snow fall. but fortunately, warmer weather has arrived melting much of that icy mess. >> that is why they canceled school, mainly for the school bus. >> good grief. >> looking for something to do with the thanksgiving leftovers? i have my sandwich coming later today. you may want to add them to your beauty regiment. experts say pumpkin is a great natural for facials and cranberries are wonderful for your hair. i recommend cranberries on your sand wish. got to put cranberries on the sandwich, personally. >> he puts crew -- he puts the cucumbers on his eyes. >> shoppers camped out all night, kicking off the happy holiday season. you have been shopping, and we have given you like reports on black friday morning madness. and now, from the target store in memphis, earl? >>reporter: rock-n-roll time in memphis. this is a hybrid store a combination of the original target stores and the new superstars and they were here at 4:00 this morning and still coming in. this is the store manager. they were stacked up, and this is the second year for you to do the black friday and it is bigger than last year. >> this year we got several other retailers to open with us so we were a destination. >> televisions are still going out the door, you had 40" sets that went out? >> yes, great deal on the big tv's at $250 off. >> and you have door buster things like g.p.s. systems? >> yes and even some of the highly discounted scanners. >> but everyone is calm right now, and that is good. >> it is good. we had great partnership, everyone was behaving and got people in and out safely so that is a win here. >> and you are open until 11:00 tonight and you go home early? >> i hope so. >> you never know, it is retail. >> this is the super bowl of retail stores with best buy and target and macy's so this is the big day for retail and they are all out to be number one. live from memphis, earle, for fox news. >> that is the common theme, the big box stores. >> and now, all the 50 santas are here. >> moms, dad, at home, grab your kids, holidays are upon us and 55 santas are here to help us, or their helpers are helping us remember the spirit of giving. and we have the organization hosting the annual sidewalk santa's parade, thank you for being with us rachel. >> these are santa's helpers not the big guy himself. he is busy. they have the white belts and the helpers have a white belt. >> on the day after thanksgiving they have come to parade to remind new yorkers and the country alike, that this is the time of year we have to remember our neighbors in need, those who cannot put the basics together. >> so if we give money and we are in new york and give money, this is what the drop box looks like, you see this drop box, drop in some change or bills whatever you have, where does the money go? >> the money goes, we town it into food vouchers, so homeless families, and people at clinics get a food voucher and they can use that as cash in a supermarket and this year if you cannot see one of our santas in new york go online and you can donate to the virtual santa. >> so anyone watching, because a lot of viewers are not in new york. >> that is okay you can trip to this wonderful program online. >> we were not doing the vouchers but we did basket. i like the vouchers because people can choose what we want. >> we used to give packages of food to the families, the turkey but based on their religious restrictions or health restrictions we were not sure that was the best possible thing we could do for the folks so, instead, they can go into a store with the voucher and choose food that is special to them and not have to turn to a soup kitchen or food pantry. this is the most respectful way to help. >> thank you, everyone, for doing this. thank you, santa for sending your helpers. a big ho ho. >> ho ho ho! what an introduction. very appropriate. >> coming up, what do family members of those would lost their likes on 9/11 think of nbc naming the developer of the mosque near ground zero to the lit of "people of the year." to keep in balance after 50, i switched to a complete multivitamin with more. only one a day women's 50+ advantage has gingko for memory and concentration plus support for bone and breast health. a great addition to my routine. 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(announcer) resso. >> welcome back to "fox and friends". nbc unveiling the "people of the year," in a tv special last night and guess who made the cut sharif el-gamal, developer of ground zero mosque and here is how he responded if he thought the project could raise a few eyebrows. not once have i held my faith accountable for the horrific events of 9/11. i am an american. i am an american who has a specific belief system. to be a muslim you have to be a good jew and a good christian. and you do not commit mass murder. >> the controversial choice not sitting well with retireed police department official would lost his son on 9/11 and joins us this morning. >> good morning. it is difficult around this holiday season thinking about your son. when you see this special last night, the other people of the year were folked like lebron james, and people in entertainment and sports. how did you feel having lost your son on 9/11, that sharif el-gamal, the developer of ground zero mosque was "people of the year." >> nbc stooped to a measure low. we have a shady free developer who has been arrested for slits iting a prostitute, assault, d.w.i., and they make him their "person of the year." he spoke at functions on arabic and american relations, a hamas linked group. >> what about the question raised this morning about whether "time magazine," who does a "person of the year," and it is not necessarily a person held in high regard. >> whatever you may think of sharif el-gamal he is part of the national debate in our country about the way we look at ourselves, the way our nation relates to the muslim faith and how we understand our constitution. so, anyone who is opposed to this, and he is not being honored, anyone opposed is opposed to open debate and our constitution which is are hallmarks of america's greatness. >> but over 70 percent of americans disagree with the building of the ground zero mosque does he have a point that it sparked a national debate about muslims in the country? >> it sparked a national debate but he is wrong talking about religious freedom and rights. this is not about that but about location. we have never said you cannot practice your religion freely after 9/11 but the location. applying for $5 million in funds when they, and they said they are not part of the world trade center but they applied for funds. it is all about location, and sensist to the families and we have 25,000 body parts buried down there and it is sacred area >> and they have not started the fundraising, barely gotten off the ground. if you have a question for the developer, what would you thriek ask? >> why, why, why they have not spoke be out more after 9/11. i saw my son die and picked up his body, and i go home and the muslims throughout the middle east and brooklyn, are all cheering and praising. why have the leaders of the muslim community in the united states and throughout the world spoken up against the radical groups. no one has. we see the people cheering in the streets the deaths of our loved ones and that is a disgrace. >> i will say that the develop said he -- sharif el-gamal, he said that was not what his religion is about. >> we honor your loss, and appreciate you joining us i know how difficult it is right after the holidays. >> there is never a closure especially after the holiday. >> coming up, another state ready to crack down on the illegal immigrants just like arizona. what will the feds do now? that is ahead. but first a look at what is coming up at the top of the hour. >> something possibly the biggest black friday ever. and why wall street is paying attention. and the u.s. is pushing north korea, they say, to the brink of war. >> get ready for a new battle offer illegal immigration in the state of california. a group is attempt to model an initiative after arizona's controversial immigration law and wants to place the measure on the ballot in 2012. >> the chairman of the support federal immigration law committee is the man behind the ballot measure and neats 433,000 signatures to get this on the ballot. why do you want to model your immigration policy after what has happened in arizona? the department of justice has filed a lawsuit and economically it may have had negative impact. why do you want to model it after what is happening in arizona? >> well, good morning. we are very confident that this will be upheld by the supreme court when it gets there. and we think that there are a lot of good provisions in the arizona law which we want to adapt into the california code. we have made some important changes in order to take into consideration the legal challenges. we have made changes in light of the judge's decision, for example, so it is not entirely a carbon copy but we believe fundamentally the provisions that are in there in terms of eliminating sanctuary cities, in terms of giving real tool to law enforcement, to crack down on drug cartels and human smugglers and violent gangs in terms of cracking down on employers who defy the law by hiring people who are not supposed to be working with, we think the tools are necessary. and will be ul held by the courts. >> we know the state of california financially is at a loss. how much are the illegal immigrants in your state costing your state? >> well right now illegal immigrants cost the state anywhere up to $10 billion a year. that is out of a roughly $40 billion a year annual deficit. so, basically, a quarter of our deficit can be attributed to the costs of having millions upon millions of illegal imgrants -- immigrants using resources. >> an estimated 22 percent of voters in california are hispanic. might you feel, and as they pointed out you are in rough economic shape in california, the flip side is the economic backlash. arizona saw a lot of losses in terms of conventions and out of state business coming to the state of arizona. do you feel economic damage if this passes. >>guest: no, the fact is we appear advertise payment a -- we anticipate good support in california when the hispanic community. people think they are against immigration reform but proposition 187 in 1994, and that was vilified as antihispanic measure and it got almost 45 percent of the hispanic vote that year. that is frankly much boater than most republican candidates do in the state. so i think the idea that somehow hispanics are going to turn against us is simply wrong. now, will some people try to inflame racial tension? certainly, we can expect that from the obama administration and from the left in general. and, maybe, some people will try to orchestrate boycotts but i don't think anything is really going to come of that. the boycotts have not worked against arizona. though are not going to work against california. >> michael, thank you. chairman of the federal immigration law, support federal immigration law in california. thank you. coming up, we are getting into the holiday spirit with many, many, santas. many, santas. santa's helpers. you can dream it and do it. adp lists on nasdaq, the world's most innovative can-do exchange. pediatrician recommended pain reliever for children. plus, children's advil® brings fever down faster than children's tylenol®. choose children'advil®. relief you can trust.

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