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national captioning institute -- www.ncicap.org -- steve: a little dr. suessy. alisyn: "in the know you are not." brian: i've always had problems with dr. suess. you try to teach kids what's real and what's not. they're making up words and people. steve: they're not making up words. >> green eggs and ham? steve: which is the made up word there? alisyn: i'm sure we can come up with some. steve: that slogan did mention the green logo. we mentioned this yesterday for the two weeks before christmas, as is the tradition here at fox news, we turn the logo green. so we should point out, gretchen carlson is off today and in her place we have the lovely and talentedded alisyn camerota. alisyn: thank you so much. great to be with you. let's talk about the big news. you had heard rumors of this, that gitmo detainees would be going to an under utilized prison in illinois. it appears that that is actually happening. of course, the reaction is mixed, but many in illinois this morning are very happy about this because it will bring jobs, they say, to this little community of 450 people that have been so downtrodden. steve: hold your horses, though, alisyn camerota. congressman mark kirk was on this program a couple of weeks ago and said, now here's the thing, we do need jobs in this district but do we really need this particular facility to be a big target? he says if you bring a lot of the gitd mow guys -- gitmo guys to illinois, it will be a target. you'll have extremists or sympathetisympathizers, stand oe gate, go into town, into coffee shops, and could potentially cause problems. brian: the government is essentially saying we're buying that prison from you. so the feds take over the prison. they can take up to 1,600. they only have 100 and these are minimum, security risk prisoners. alisyn: that are in there. brian: in there. so it's a lightly used prison. so in there maximum they're going to put in 100 of the worst of the worst, who we can't find a home for, are still at gitmo so 100 go to illinois, and that's going to be home. congressman, who wants to be senator, mark kirk is saying do we really need to be a terror target? and why is the statement that's accompanied with this federal purchase of this prison, this will help make us safer and no longer be a promo for al qaeda to recruit fellow agents? i guess the lines have gone down to nothing now. without gitmo, why join al qaeda? they're still in prison. they're still in illinois. do we need seem as cruel because we don't have them in cuba in this cutting edge facility that has air-conditioning and a wonderful soccer field? alisyn: the conditions here will be tougher. brian: exactly. alisyn: it was designed as a maximum security prison. all i can tell you is the mayor, actually called the village president, he likes the idea. in fact the reason that they built thompson was to help people get jobs there but it never worked out that way because they had so many budget shortfalls in the state that it ended up not providing jobs. i don't know how this is going to be different. but they do hope this will help revitalize the town. brian: if i can, i don't know if we have a quote of the day yet but this is my entry. this is from the village president of thompson. "it's news to me, but i'm always the last to know everything." that's fantastic. could someone tell the guy in charge? alisyn: it inspires confidence does it not? we're in good hands. steve: at 10:00 this morning apparently the house intelligence committee is going to look at the secret data that our brightest minds have put together regarding the security threat that putting these gitmo guys into a facility in the middle of america what that would pose to the locals. they're going to decide whether or not they can actually share that information with this local congressional delegation. you would think before you go ahead and plant them out there, would you tell them what they're up against. everybody wants jobs. we need jobs. but how dangerous is it? and will this intel indicate to the congressional delegation of illinois? it could be really dangerous. or, same token, it could be like, you know what, the danger threat has been overblown. brian: white house officials have a little bit of a problem. they can't decide if we're in a recession or not. we need a tiebreaker. does anybody know anybody in washington, d.c., who can break the zed lock? -- deadlock? alisyn: i think that's my setup. brian: i'm hoping can you roll with it. alisyn: washington, d.c. has apparently been handing out $15 million worth of bonuses in january of -- since january of 2007 despite income a recession. so despite the city being in the red they have somehow found $15 million to give to people like the school's chancellor, michelle reese. she was given a $41,000, actually a little bit more, bonus in 2007. steve: two months after she started. alisyn: right. what was she able to accomplish in those two months? steve: allow me to reveal. under her guidance as the chancellor of schools in washington, d.c., and by the way we should point out she's been on this program a couple of times, fourth graders in the standardized testing in the washington, d.c., school district are now the fourth worst in the nation. alisyn: congratulations. steve: hold your horses once against, alisyn camerota. the eighth graders are the second worst. now, there are some in washington, d.c -- and i used to live there. you can say what you want to about the local government, that it's a little chummy, but some have said, you know, a lot of these contracts were entered into at a time when, you know, we had more money and now we can't get out of them. but at the same time, you look at the argument where they say, you know, we're going to have to lay off some cops, some firemen, some teachers and yet you get this, that $15 million worth of bonuses had been forked out at the same time when if you are over 65 you know you will not be getting a cost of living increase. across the country, for the first time since 1975. brian: and that was part of the reason why the president of the united states says let's mail every senior $400. they're going to be a little surprised at the end of the year. meanwhile, michael steele, chairman of the r.n.c., a dressed this very issue last night. >> there's a fundamental effort afoot here to shift, redistribute, the wealth that is created and earned in this nation to government, through whatever policies, whatever means that fit that work. health care is the first wave, cap and trade is the next, car check is another way in which they empower those institution that are either be holden to the government or the government itself. steve: it is pretty remarkable. at the time when so many employers are laying people off, and not quite as much as they were a year or six months ago, yet local governments are still able to chug along. and a lot of people still have those very lucrative pension plans and also salaries while people in the private sector are having to make due without. at the same time, they're jacking up our taxes. alisyn: we'll have more examples of this later in the show. in the meantime, i want to bring you the latest on health care reform. president obama will meet with all senate democrats at the white house today to urge them to come together and pass a bill before christmas this comes as democrats appear to be on the verge of a new compromise. and this one would get rid of a plan to allow americans to buy into medicare at age 55. lawmakers made the announcement late last night. >> we all know it's been a long, difficult process. we have gone over most of the hurdles like a steeplechase race. the last big puddle's in front of us. we'll jump over that and beat to the finish line. alisyn: joe lieberman has threatened to filibuster if the medicare provision is not taken out. brian: he's a steeple. alisyn: a fox alert. the weather will decide the next move in that search for those two missing climbers on mount hood. a major storm is barreling towards oregon's largest peak. yesterday crews were unable to search unreachable areas of the mountain. they have been missing since early friday. the body of luke dalberg was found over the weekend. prosecutors to new york to face trial. craid high-value detainee because it's believed he met with 9/11 mast other mind khalid sheikh mohammad. mow ham yood and others are set to be tried in new york city. wells fargo announcing it will pay back $25 billion in tarp money to do this the bank will raise $10.4 billion in a share sale. wells fargo, one of the most vocal critics of tarp. in march, the chairman accusin accusing -- calling the financial system "asinine." was alex rodriguez just a boy of summer? word is that a-rod and kate hudson have broken up. brian is devastated. this is not being confirmed by either celebrity right now. but there are reports that a-rod was partying it up with the ladies. brian: that doesn't sound like a-rod. alisyn: no. so out of character. hudson promoted her new movie "nine" in new york and he was quoted as saying "i'm totally single" but he said that when he was married. brian: he's used to it. did you see the story about kate hudson dancing in a window for three straight hours? steve: you're making it sound like she was in a strip joint. i think it was a workout place. brian: but in the window? brian: in a private workout. steve: regarding dr. suess making up words. doesn't make up words in "green eggs and ham." however, according to roy, he wrote in that dr. suess books do have made up words as "there's a wauket in my pocket." brian: is roy 6 years old? steve: i don't think sox a good speller -- think so. he's a good speller. how about this? about a year ago, a man noticed a pretty girl. right over there. her name, laura zeke. they didn't talk. but as fate would have it, as you can see right there with laura's arm around brian's neck, eventually they did meet. well, as it turns out, they were both on u.s. airways flight 1549 that landed in the hudson. there they are. although, he didn't really talk to her during the flight or after the flight. and they finally made contact when cbs, "60 minutes," had a little reunion with sully and some of the passengers. alisyn: so at this reunion there was an after party. they ended up chatting and hanging out. and they stayed up until 6:00 a.m. talking. and then he crashed at her place. don't you love it? brian: the second time they crashed together. that's right. steve: the individual joe from "new york" magazine. they're featured in a photo spread and story in the current issue about how they found love on the hudson when flight 1549 went down. and this is from the photo shoot. apparently now, they have been inseparable. it looks as if currently they are traveling together. there's a real good possibility they'll be on "fox & friends." brian: will you bury the lead? alisyn: which is it? brian: they dance together every single night. steve: before bed. brian: because they experienced a near-death experience. they feel as though they should appreciate life by dancing every night. i'm afraid to tell a love story. you know why? alisyn: why? brian: kourtney freely, substituted for gretchen carlson. we were tying to tell a love story. she said brian, you tell it too city catd yo and steve cold it better. i blamed kourtney. alisyn: maybe by the end of the show you can get some of that back. steve: anyway, that's that. we got a busy three hours straight ahead. what is life like right now for three americans detained in iran? our next guest knows all too well. she was imprisoned in iran, blindfolded in console trie -- solitary confinement. alisyn: this is obvious before they were imprisoned. can your boss read your private text messages? the supreme court is taking up the case for the first time ever. steve: l.o.l. brian: glad you woke up of here are some headlines. filipino officials preparing for an 8,000-foot volcano to blow its top. authorities are moving thousands of residents away from the area's most active volcano after it oozed lava yesterday. you wouldn't have to ask me twice to leave. tiger woods' chief sponsor, nike, standing by the troubled golfer because the chairman says the alleged extra marital affairs are just a blip on the radar when all is said and done. accenture ot lenly to completely drop woods. alisyn: three american hikers detained in iran will face trial there. joshujosh, sarah and shane are accused of espionage. here's what secretary of state hillary clinton says about those charges. >> we consider in a totally unfounded charge. there is no basis for it. the three young people who were detained by the iranians have absolutely no connection with any kind of action against the iranian state or government. alisyn: the three americans were arefortd whil arrested while hig last summer and have been detained ever since. our next guest knows all too well what they're facing. she spent 105 days imprisoned in iran and wrote a book about it, "my prison, my home." good morning to you. >> good morning. alisyn: when you heard that these three young american hikers were detained and will be put on trial in iran, what went through your head? >> i felt for them very strongly. i was mortified because i know they don't speak the language. so they can't base basically communicate unless they have an interpreter. and they probably don't know what it takes to be put on trial in iraq. alisyn: your situation was frightening. you had gone back to iran to visit your, i guess, 98-year-old mother. and on the way back to the airport your car was pulled over and your passport was taken and stolen and you were detained and put in prison for 105 days. what was your experience like there? >> well, i was in solitary confinement. i didn't have any interaction except the women guards. i was blindfolded when taken for interrogation. i had to sit and face the wall. and the interrogation would last eight to nine hours. i didn't have any contact with the outside world. i was completely cut off from the outside world for three months. alisyn: and you suspect that during this process that these three american hikers will face mental torture. what does that mean? >> well, you know, first of all, not speaking the language. secondly, not knowing why you are in prison and in solitary confinement. and thirdly, constantly being asked the same questions over and over and over again. and also not having access to any lawyers and to your family. alisyn: and you suspect that the woman there, the young woman, the female hiker, sarah. actually be kept in the very same cell, ward 209, that you were in. how might her experience be different than the men? >> i really don't know how the men's ward is. all i can talk about is the women's ward for political prisoner war ward 209. you'll have a room which is slightly larger than a regular prison cell. it has two windows. the lights are on 24 hours a day in my case at least i could speak the language. but in sarah's case, i just don't know. even if she wants to say i need a glass of water. she probably have to use line sign language. alisyn: your book, "my prison, my home." thank you for sharing your personal experience with us. >> thank you for having me. alisyn: coming up, can your boss read your private texts? that's the question going all the way to the supreme court. and gun owners being treated by sex offenders. we'll explain. one word turns innovative design into revolutionary performance. one word makes the difference between defining the mission and accomplishing the mission. one word makes the difference in defending our nation and the cause of freedom. how... is the word that makes all the difference. steve: gun owners in indiana say they are being treated like sex offenders. why? because one of the local papers there, "the bloomington herald times" posted this data base of which private citizens own guns. the paper says the information is public record. but is it an invasion of privacy? we are joined right now by a gun owner in the bloomington area and a member of the n.r.a. and dennis, vice president of "law and policy" at the brady campaign. he joins from us washington, d.c. caleb, let's start with you. why do you say that by the fact that this newspaper is printing information regarding who has carry permits in indiana it's treated gun owners like sex offenders? >> well, thanks for having me on. initially when the database was launched, they actually put it in the crime section of their website. so you could go online and much like a registered sex offender database search your city, your street, your zip code or your county to find out how many people with handgun permits lived in your area. it's just like going to the sex offender's database and finding out how many registered sex offenders live around you. steve: dennis what do you think about this? if you're getting a carry permit to privately carry a gun, legally, why should everybody who lives on your street know whether or not you actually carry a gun? apparently in nashville the newspaper there, the "commercial appeal," they actually have that information on their website. >> as i understand it, it's information about whether you have a carry permit. it's not information about whether you are carrying a gun at any particular time. steve: how many people get a carry permit and don't carry a gun? or don't have a gun? >> quite a few, actually. steve: really? >> quite a few. but the point is these newspapers across the country have performed a public service because they have gotten the names of people who have these carry permits and then they have compared them to the criminal databases. and what we have found is that in these states that have these so-called shall issue laws that basically liberalize the carrying of concealed weapons take away police discretion of who can carry concealed. you find that many many people have been given these permits even though they have extensive criminal backgrounds and violent backgrounds. and sure enough, we have seen that people with concealed carry permits often commit very violent crimes. just this year alone we have had six multiple killings across the country by people with concealed carry permits. steve: dennis, hold on a second. you're absolutely right. if somebody's got a record that would say this guy shouldn't have a gun or have a permit, that is a function of law enforcement that that person should not have gotten the gun. however, here you've got these newspapers just putting the information out on their websites for anybody to look at for whatever purpose. caleb what do you think about this? >> obviously, for us it's a huge invasion of privacy. you're looking at especially in the case of the commercial appeal, you're looking at, you know, a database with names and addresses and people's personal information so a woman who has gotten a han handgun permit or y permit so she could defend herself from an abusive boyfriend or is worried about stalking, now her information is out there so that person could find it that's a huge invasion of privacy and a big safety risk. when you look at what's happened in indiana, you have the "herald times" has essentially printed a roadmap for gang members if they want to pick and choose which neighborhoods to go to to steal firearms from. steve: here is what that particular newspaper said. steve: dennis, the final word. >> again, in indiana the press has actually discovered that over 500 people who have been granted these conceal carry permits -- and this is just in two counties in indiana, have criminal backgrounds. we cannot possibly know whether these permits are going to dangerous people until the press knows who the people are. and the press has done a public service by doing this. steve: caleb and dennis we thank you, gentlemen, for joining us on this lively debate this morning. >> thank you. steve: and you folks in tv land, e-mail us. what do you think about it? in the meantime, off to the greenroom. brian: the city tried to force this man, sitting right here -- get up, nick. this man to make room for a private university, columbia. what happened next is his business went basically on death watch. he fought back. it's a lesson for everyone. am i right, nick? >> absolutely. alisyn: then prime minister silvio berlusconi still recovering. he's in the hospital. he was smashed in the face with a statuette. people want to know why someone hated him so much. we'll have more reaction to attack on him. brian: that's what he said. happy birthday to don johnson, the former "miami vice" star. is he nash bridge? he turns 60 today. the great taste of splenda no calorie sweetener and added a little fiber? sweet! sweet! sweet! 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[laughing] steve: speaking of text messages. brian: that's the transition. here's the question for you. if an employer owns your phone and you text message on that phone, do you feel as though that employer -- do you think the employer should have the right to read those text message? that is the very question that was brought up in ontario, california when an officer there who had text messaged more than anybody else in a lesson to i guess the rest of the department had his whole -- every conversation transcribed and given to the chief. alisyn: so against his will, i think, because he was actually having an affair that he was conducting via text message with the dispatcher. so when suddenly his bills racked up hundreds and hundreds of dollars, much more so than anybody else in the department -- brian: 46 pages. alisyn: they said can we print these? it turned out to be 46 pages of text messages that were quite steamy to his mistress back and forth. brian: that's not the point. alisyn: what is the point? brian: even if they were, fix my dryer, please, just because the employer owns the phone and pays the service do they have the right to know everything about you? steve: that's interesting. that was the argument the particular district made in front of the ninth circuit court of appeals last year that found that the police department could not read the text messages. the story is, now, the very latest is yesterday the supreme court announced they would hear this case to figure out whether or not your boss could go ahead and read them. what they say, though, is there was an expectation that they would have privacy. however, according to the documents out there in ontario, california, apparently if you went over a certain number of texts in the course of a month, a lieutenant would then ask you for the money. he got so sick of being the bill collector he finally said, look, that one guy, sergeant jeff kwan, he's got 46 pages. so the chief asked for that. they looked at that. now what they're saying is that if you use your device and it belongs to the company, the company should be able to look. now, there are a lot of people out there watching right now who do use their text machines to send personal messages. would you want your boss to read them? most of it is innocuous, but if you're carrying on an affair, suddenly you're in trouble. brian: keep in mind whose on the hook. the city of ontario and the wireless company that provided the transcript. they are nervous that the supreme court will not overturn this decision. steve: but it impacts everybody who carry a company phone. alisyn: it sure does. do you think that is the property of your employer or it is your own private content that should be protected? steve: and if you're having an affair, let us know. alisyn: and we'll read it on the air. that's great. in the meantime, let me tell you what's in your headlines. we start with a gruesome story. a bloody scene in california this morning. police say several family members were found dead inside an upscale home in san clemente yesterday. the sheriff's deputies say the victims were all related. deputies responded to a home dispute and found the victims. there were no survivors and no outstanding suspects. silvio berlusconi spending a second night in the hospital after being hit in the head with a statueet. berlusconi is expected to be released tomorrow. but he's being told not to attend any public auto ventsz for two weeks. the man who threw the strat yew has a history of mental problems. he's apologizing for breaking berlusconi's nose and his two teeth. steve: meanwhile, climate talks resume in copenhagen after tensions heated up inside and outside as well. cops and protesters clashing early this morning after a party by an an arkist group turned ugly. a lot of an arkist groups do turning youly. authorities moved in with tear gas. more than 200 people have been arrested since the conference began. meanwhile yesterday's sessions stopped after developing countries walked out saying wealthier nations are not doing enough to cut emissions. china is accusing developed nations of backsliding on obligations to combat climate change. more than 100 world leaders, including president obama, are said to arrive in the coming days. alisyn: al gore also making headlines in denmark. the former vice president said the arctic ocean could be nearly free of ice in the summer time as early as 2014. gore said he was quoting a doctor but doctor says gore is wrong. the doctor says he never would have tried to estimate something like that. gore's rep later said the nobel peace prize winner was relying a figure the doctor used in a private conversation several years ago. steve: this next clip might make your stomach turn a little bit. it's a public service announcement released by the city of new york health department it shows a man drinking what is supposed to be fat in a glass. alisyn: ewe. steve: it could be an energy drink until you say fat. health officials hoping this p.s.a. encourages people from drinking sugary benches. the ad says drinking just one can of soda a day can add up to 10 pounds of fat. alisyn: i think it's going to discourage people from eating their breakfast this morning. steve: off to brian. brian: i'll take that as my toss. thank you for that. an interesting case. some local businesses around columbia university right here in new york city were in the way of the school's expansion plans. so they tried to kick them out. they fought back did these businesses, and won the eminent domain case against columbia. for now. this is not over. a little bit later the judge will be on to find out if as this case proceeds, where we go from here. nick, when did you get word that columbia university, in uptown new york, wanted to take away your storage along with two other gas stations? >> this actually started, brian, five years ago. columbia started going around to -- at that point there were about 35 businesses in the area. they said basically if you don't sell to us now, you're going to face condemnation by the state at a later point with the implication being that you're going to be screwed out of fair price. and over five years they got virtually every single property owner to succumb to the pressure of the immensity of columbia baring down on them. but right from the get-go i decided this was a fight worth fighting. brian: a fight that would cost you about $1 million in legal fees. >> yes. brian: what happened to turn in your direction? >> well, we did something very unusual. that's why this case so far is turning out to be so hiss historic. we uncovered a tremendous amount of evidence that columbia and new york state were in collusion and were doing a lot of things improper. that's why this ruling two weeks ago is so important because the court took the time to view our evidence and not just rule in favor of the municipality as courts across the country have always been doing. they saw that what they were doing was unconstitutional and illegal. brian: so there was really no case. why take tuck it away storage and these two gas station and knock them out? simply because it would make columbia a more desirable university. that is not how eminent domain was meant to be. >> exactly. the constitution says eminent domain can be used for public use. columbia is a private entity. they should not be the beneficiary of eminent domain. brian: and not only did you do an historic thing and great american thing by fighting, it's against a huge organization, university, but it's not over. there's going to be another round and maybe a supreme court round after that. we're going to bring out judge napalitano to look at your case and kind of examine what up hill climb you have ahead of you. meanwhile, what else do we have? steve: the judge wears makeup? alisyn: a lot. you should see him when he first comes in. steve: she's kidding. meanwhile, millions of stimulus tax dollars being used to help workers at universities retire early? wait a minute. isn't the money supposed to be used to create jobs not downsize? that's straight ahead. alisyn: your "quote of the day." alisyn: e-mail us with the right answer. you could win some fox goodies. we know why we're here. to redefine air travel for a new generation. to ensure our forces are safer and stronger. to take the world we share to tomorrow and beyond. announcer: around the globe, the people of boeing are working together-- to make a difference. that's why we're here. brian: you just heerd nick's story -- heard nick's story who fought and won, temporarily, an eminent domain case against columbia university. all politicians except one lined up for columbia, a private institution. here we go on where go from here and what nick is up against. the great judge andrew poll tan yo. napalitano. judge, this is a fight close to your heart. >> it is. brian: this was a state school or they wanted to put a highway in, nick wouldn't have a case. but this is a private institution. >> right. the constitution says the government can only take property against your will by paying you a fair market value for it and putting it to a public use. so if they wanted to widen broadway or build a park or construct a post office or build a state college, they could do it. but in nick's case the government wanted to take his property against his will, pay him what they thought was a fair market value, sell it at a profit to columbia university, another private land owner, and let columbia expand the campus. so the court is saying and columbia is saying, the state is saying, well, an ivy league in school is a better use of the property than a storage facility and two gas stations. the court is saying, too bad. it's their property, they own it, they can decide what use they want to put to the property. that's what the constitution stands for. brian: nick, did you get a good offer from the state that would have made it profitable for to you move? >> what's interesting, and just shows how much they have no desire to compromise and to be reasonable, is not once ever in five years did the state ever come to us with any type of offer. they never requested that we try to work things out. and i went to columbia instead and said i'm willing to swap properties across broadway so you have have your campus. nothing. brian: senator perkins is the only politician to stand by you. judge, give him the bad news now about the next situation and how it could spell curtains for nick. >> the court that just ruled in nick's favor is an intermediary appeals court, between the trial court and court of appeals. that court, the one to which columbia, the city and state of new york will appeal, just ruled 6-1 in favor of the rights of the government to take private property from one owner and give it to another in the case of atlantic yards in brooklyn where bruce ratner wants to build an arena for the nets. but who knows. they may have a change ever hard. the opinion in his case is a wonderful manifestation of the right to own and use private property as you want not as the government tells you to. brian: and nick's doing the good fight. great meeting you. we will track your store yea long the way. judge later. >> we have jim bunting, the hall of fame pitcher and senator from kentucky who says the fed is a moral hazar has. would you keep up this fight? >> all the way. brian: he says he's not the father of her baby but wait until you hear what pricey gift former senator john edwards reportedly bought his former mistress. and stimulus money earmark for the job creations being spent to cut jobs and create curby retirement packages. seriously. . . brian hi, it's your news by the numbers. first $535,000. that's how much former senator john edwards reportedly pay for a home hunter. steve: bought her a house? brian: yes, steve. move to charlotte with her 22-month-old baby who some say is edwards'. i thought everyone said that next $9,080 found stuffed inside a heating pad a woman who works at a local consignment returned the money to the owner. next, five years. that's how long michael barrett is expected to face in prison. he is the guy accused of secretly taping espn star erin andrews. is he expected to plead guilty in court today. steve? not guilty of anything. steve: thank you, brian. more than $43 million in federal stimulus funds over earmarked at creating new jobs, you know, creating or saving jobs. that's their mantra. alisyn: sure. steve: instead being spent on salaries and benefits for outgoing workers at iowa's three state universities. does this southbound like our tax dollars are developing job opportunities? no. in a word,. alisyn: thank you. i was waiting for that pregnant pause. president of juans for tax relief supports the move of doing. this he joins us from aims, iowa. explain the logic of this how paying $33.4 million in stimulus funds, which, of course, is meant to create or save jobs, being paid to professors at these universities to quit their jobs. explain the logic. >> the idea to create jobs in the public sector is a horribly bad idea but the money was here. and they showed common sense when they said look this isn't about job creation. if we create jobs with this money and expand the role of government then that's going to have to be sustained by the taxpayers, long run. instead we showed some common sense iowa values said no, we will spend it on a short-term obligation. that's all this money is good for. the federal government says they are sending it to create jobs. can i tell you i'm sending you a boat but if a car shows up in your driveway you better not try to put it in the water. steve: let's take a look at soft millions being used at the university of iowa 33.4 million being use for outgoing employees, not stimulating, creating, or saving any jobs. iowa state university where you are at right now 5.9 million. and university of northern iowa about 3.5 million. you know, the thing about this is, ed, so many times the administration has said the stimulus money is going to save or create jobs. clearly, this is, instead, being used to down size, which is going in the wrong direction. but at the same time, you are actually using -- we're using the stimulus money to do what iowa should have done in the first place which was pare down the staff if they couldn't afford them. >> exactly. that's exactly what should be occurring. at the end of the day they had this money and they had a decision to make how to spend it. they could have gone a direction of creating a bigger university of iowa, iowa state, university of iowa. they didn't. what they did was saying this is putting our finger this the dike. that's all it can be used for. the educated folks at our state yfrts understand this is nothing about job creation and none. not one dollar of this stimulus money is about long-term job creation no matter where it goes. alisyn: i understand your reenking and of course it does make sense to get rid of very high paid professors if they're nearing retirement. this is not what the taxpayers understand stimulus to be. that's to create jobs. not to pay people to quit their jobs. >> again, these people were already in the pipeline for these things happening and they're just meeting a present obligation of funding. the big point is that they recognize that the story we're being told about job creation isn't the truth no matter how many times you say it no matter how loudly they say it, it is not just the case. it gives me hope. my son a sophomore at the university of northern iowa, clearly the folks there understand economics and government and stimulation of a economy better than the administration because they understood this isn't going to create any long term jobs. steve: in the cases there in iowa, the stimulus is actually funding down sizing. ed joining us from the studios of woi in ames, iowa. alisyn: coming up the husband of the missing mother is laguardia up with a very prominent attorney. who else has this guy defended? we'll tell you what what is making headlines there. steve: president obama calls bankers fat cats. what the president should really be telling them instead. alisyn: he is like a redneck from the south if you're brought up shooting and hunting animals and if you're really second nature and you're blasting athen then it's hard to see the other point of view you need. talking about this prince william. steve: couldn't see that coming. alisyn: good morning, everyone. i'm alisyn camerota. tuesday, december 15th. we start with a fox news alert. while you were sleeping a decision came down. gift mow detainees are headed for america's heartland. details in just moments. brian: democrat turned new information about what's being done behind the scenes to win his vote. steve: here is brian's favorite story. one family says it has captured the allusive big foot on camera. alisyn: i have seen this picture before. steve: this is something new. we are going to report and you are going to decide if it is big foot or big fake. meanwhile, our slogan this hour comes from gail in ohio. breakfast, a shower, a cup of joe, and "fox & friends" before i go. so long, gail. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> i'm debbie phelps, michael phelps' mother and you are watching "fox & friends." make sure you watch closely. brian: if something where my mom got sick of me and had to give me up, i wish mrs. phelps would adopt me. she sounds like a wonderful mother, certainly supportive. steve: a fine educator as well. alisyn: have you posed this request to her? brian: mrs. phelps? she has her hands full right now. steve: ready to give me up for debbie phelps? brian: could be eminent domain day. two minutes after the top of the hour. i want to get the headlines over with if that's ok with the formataholic. steve: we have a lot of stuff to do. alisyn: let me do that for you. we will start with a fox news alert. call it at new gitmo. today the white house is expected to announce an illinois prison will house guantanamo bay detainees. the tomson correctional cent is a federal facility 150 miles from chicago. the prison will reportedly hold a limited number of terrorist suspects. the official announcement will include illinois lawmakers, senator dick durbin and governor pat quinn, both supporters of the move. one calls the decision essential to protecting national security. pakistan reportedly said it's not going to help with the u.s. catch a taliban leader who is threatening american forces. the "new york times" says the u.s. wants to catch hakani who has been operating in north waziristan. pakistani officials say they don't want to alienate him because he could help improve relationship with afghanistan once american forces leave. well, the husband of that missing utah woman is lawyering one a high profile attorney josh -- i'm tore high profile -- i'm sorry high profile attorney. she disappeared more than a week ago without her purse or cell phone. recent clients include wanda barzee who has pleaded guilty in the 2002 kidnapping of elizabeth smart. boeing 7 7 dream liner is scheduled for takeoff today. it is already two years behind schedule. the first test flight is supposed to take off at 10:00 a.m. pacific time in seattle. ordered 840 of the light weight aircraft at a cost of $140 billion. those are your headlines. brian: glenn beck just got here. steve: there is his an nation. the beck stops here to do some autographing for brian's book. brian: for his book arguing with idiots. >> is this your friend. brian: this is my friend's daughter going to college next year and worships you and wishes you could open up a university. >> stay away from brian. brian: that is not nice. it's an impressionable kid. >> class ended. steve: how often do you write on books and not black boards? >> more on black boards. steve: i think so. let's talk a little bit about. this the president of the united states during his weekend internet and radio address referred to and then later as well, referred to bankers as fat cats, you know, the guys on wall street. and then he. >> hang on just a second. bi-con like goldman sachs, like a lot of his advisors from goldman sachs? steve: i have even got the southbound bite. do you want to hear it? let me push the button. >> did i not run for office to be helping out a bunch of, you know, fat cat bankers on wall street the only ones paying out these fat bonuses are the ones that have now paid back that tarp money and -- >> do you think that's why they paid it back so quickly. >> i think in some cases watt motivation. which tells me that the people on wall street still don't get it. >> they don't. may i? they don't get it that's why sheely baird from the fdic when fdic needed money, they wouldn't take any money from the federal government. the federal government is afraid of the federal government. do you understand what i'm saying? the treasury said we will give you money and sheila baird from fdic said too many strings. no thank you. so they don't understand it. but i just wanted -- you cut part of that clip out where he said they're the people that caused the problem. well, excuse me. if they're the people that caused the problem people like goldman sachs, why do you have so many people from goldman sachs advising you? steve: yeah, why is that? brian: a few people reporting what went on inside the white house as opposed to what was said before. evidently some have termed it as a love fest after analogy of hey you guys are like high priced pitchers when you don't win the world series. he went on to urge them to lend to small business. there wasn't that demand and wasn't a lot of anger. >> let me ask you. this first of all, i think this is a game. a lot of people on wall street in the banking level now, they have -- they are playing the game, because they know how much power this government has. look at the guy who is now running g.m. do you know who he is? most people -- nobody in the media has even bothered to report on this. the guy running g.m. this is the second person now since obama taken over that is running g.m. he is the guy that helped david axelrod make $16 million in -- not david axelrod, rahm emanuel, $16 million in one deal. and i have been questioning for a year what happened in that deal? how did he make $16 million? is there some sort of payoff coming? look who has been appointed the new g.m. -- the new ceo of g.m.? isn't that interesting. you want to talk about fat cats and people getting rich. it's the people connected with this administration. steve: by the fact that he refers to them, those wall street guys as fat cats it makes it look like hey, the president of the united states is on our side because he knows. he is thinking like me. >> he demonizes any time he can. alisyn: doesn't it cause some outrange that these guys who were the rage -- failing institutions. doesn't that culture have to change? >> not by getting another corrupt culture to oversee it when dale earnhardt had a crash, they changed all the cars to make it safer. car crashes in nascar went up. ok? if you look at the difference between head injuries, you probably know this, head injuries of the nfl in rugby, what's the difference. higher than rugby. do they wear helmets? rugby? brian: rarely. alisyn: how do you explain it? >> because the safer you make something the more the players, the bigger the risks they take. this is not by letting people fail. by having the government come in and make all of this structure and not allowing people to really feel the consequence of their own action. they take more risks. that's what's happening. steve: that's like the invention of the air bag. suddenly we're told that if you are in a front end collision the air bag is going to go off and so people stopped using their safety belts. >> right. brian: other analogy you thought was apt and you will be talking about. the amount of people over in copenhagen pushing for climate change among the industrialized nation. thousands arrested there. all young people. the violence has some alarmed but not the speaker of the house. >> not even the media if you see the video -- we showed this video last night. they were waiving soviet flags. they are saying scrap capitalism. they want socialism. these are the people. remember the media how they made up signs of look, hammer and sickle. they are carrying a hammer and sickle with errant national do not sign through it these people want communism, socialism, and nobody is saying anything. the left has a history of violence. when nancy pelosi came out and said i saw that in the 1970s, yes, the violence she saw was from the left. yet, nobody is doing that they want to demonize the tea parties. steve: let's see how close that recreation of nancy pelosi was that that glenn beck did that here is the speaker of the house. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw -- i saw this myself in the late '70s in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it gave -- it created a climate in which we -- silence took place. steve: there is she talking about the tea party demonstrations which were completely, to my eye, nonviolent. >> zero arrests. steve: where was she when there is 1,000 people arrested in copenhagen. >> where was she when the sciu got in noah a scuffle and bit somebody's finger off. sciu beating a guy up. california, the same thing. they never talk about the violence. it's not just washington. the media is complicit. alisyn: let's talk about health care because so much is happening there including joe lieberman's role. joe lieberman doesn't like the idea of buying into medicare younger at 55. he may be able to hold that plan hostage. >> good. alisyn: single-handedly. what do you think is going to happen. >> joe lieberman, if you watch what he did on the war, he held out they kicked him out of the party. i hope he holds the line. what will the left do? look what they have done. they have taken the medicare option off the table now. so now they have taken the public option out. now they replace it with medicare option now. you have to ask yourself, what is left in this plan? what is it that they want so bad? why is the left mobilizing so hard? i don't and i have said this from the beginning it is the framework in these bills. there is control. if you look at the number of times that kathleen sebelius or her position is mentioned in this bill, 2300 times. that's more than one per page when they first released it. what is that? she is going to become -- that position will the most. steve: so powerful. >> the most powerful person in the country control every aspect of your life. they don't care, except for the structure in this bill. they will make any bill they have to get joe lieberman on board. brian: evidently joe lieberman is covering for at least 12 other democrats who aren't comfortable about this buy in for medicare. >> get on your knees and pray up and hope they stay strong. steve: glenn beck is going going to be on at 5:00. you don't know yet because you are waiting to see. >> watch for the day. brian: we pretty much set up your show. >> you start my day every day. steve: thank you. alisyn: listen to this. he is accused of murdering his father and his two sons. is he in this country illegally. he has a long rap sheet. this story will outrage you. steve: take a look at this guy. this alleged ms 13 gang member here illegally in the united states from el salvador is a suspected gunman in the triple murder of tony blown i can't and his two sons. >> he had been arrested twice before as a minor for violent crimes. san francisco's former sanctuary city laws protected illegal juveniles from deportation. chris represents the family in this suit. chris, thanks for being with us this morning. explain what happened and why this suspect, edwin ramos was not handed over immediately to customs and immigration officials for deportation. >> well, what happened was on june 22nd, while the bologna family members were coming home after church, their car passed by a car with edwin ramos in it. he in almost a random act of horrific violence gunned down the three bologna family members. we learned that the city of san francisco had ramos in its custody on three occasions for various crimes of violence, including beating up a pregnant woman, assaulting a kid who is not a member of the ramos's gang ms 13 on a public bus. possession of a gun in association with another crime. and the city, all they had to do was pick up the phone and call ice, immigration and customs enforcement and they would have deported ramos because places illegal alien gang members at the highest level. because of the city sanctuary policy they tied the police hands and not allow them to make that phone call. as a result three people are dead now. and the city's policy, which is, by the way, illegal under federal law. in 1996 congress said you cannot have a sanctuary policy like this. san francisco has been thumbing its nose at federal law for the past 13 years and now three people are dead because of it. steve: and so you are acting on behalf of the family to sue san francisco. >> yes. steve: effectively those three people would be alive had the city of san francisco simply followed standard operating procedure across the country and on three occasions they had the opportunity to deport this person who was in this country illegally and they knew it and, yet, chris, they didn't do it. because that sanctuary -- >> actually, all the city had to do was pick up the phone. but the san francisco police officers are barred from doing so. in the course of exploring this litigation we learned many, many people in the san francisco police department are furious about this policy, too. they know they are putting people like this back on the street. the san francisco board of supervisors has been keeping this policy in place. it's still in place right now. current people living in san francisco are being endangered every day. this should have been a warning sign not only to san francisco but all sanctuary cities. instead, they are persisting. steve: chris joining us to tell us about the story from kansas city today. chris, thank you very much. alisyn: thank you. >> my pleasure. steve: wow. what a story. alisyn: sure is. obviously san francisco is a well-known sanctuary city. how does it serve the city to protect a murderer? it makes no sense. steve: 20 minutes after the top there we will continue prescription for truth when "fox & friends" rolls on. and second graders in indiana told to single la is god in their holiday production. how many other deities were were mentioned? zero. parents stepped in and are now being called islamaphobes. we report, you decide. alisyn: beautiful actress from entourage. >> just calling to say hi. steve: hi. alisyn: she is going to give brian and steve a little man escaping. you guys are going to find out what you need to do to be really in style. steve: hold on, let me call my entourage. alisyn: advice on how the average man can look like the hotties in entourage. >> you want to grab a drink later?  brian: promised health care reform would save americans money down the road not yet. new numbers out show that's not exactly true. peter johnson jr. is here with his prescription for truth. >> good morning. brian: joe lieberman holding out, is that going to make this plan better or worse. >> it looks like joe lieberman says i'm not going to be for it you need me in your group of 60. i'm not going to be for in medicare plan expanding to 55. it looks like harry reid is backing off. this is do or die for this plan. president obama is convening the democratic senatorial caucus today at the white house. i believe that the president's message to them is, listen, in the end, if you need to compromise, if you need to make changes, make those changes, but i want this bill passed. you need this bill passed based on maintaining your own credibility. and so it's do or die for that piece of legislation. brian: tell me about the numbers that you worked on how they just don't add up? >> center for medicare and medicaid, the chief actuary there has said that based upon the senate's plan, health care spending in america will increase from the period 2010 to 2019 by $234 billion. the house almost $290 billion. the whole rationale at the beginning of this health care reform at the beginning of the duration was we are going to reduce the health care curve. we are spending too much on health care in this country. we shouldn't spend 19% of a family's income on health insurance we shouldn't spend in 10 years 25%. so what they are showing is a seven tenths of 1% increase and the fact that we will be spending almost 24% of our family income by 2019. so how, under this plan, when we're insuring 23 more americans are we reducing health care costs everybody was in a crazy snip saying we shouldn't be spending all this money on health care, we are destroying our economy. brian: now a lot of this too will be asking the states to step. in and the states cannot afford it? >> absolutely right. it's usually 50/50. on medicaid the states pay and the federal government pays. the state is already pulling back in about 30 states in the united states, they are reducing medicaid services. what the plan calls for exponential increase in the number of people on medicaid. we are already looking at a payroll tax increase with regard to medicare. even without the additional 55-year-old people up. do or die, in the next week or so, for this health care bill. brian: and maybe even today. peter johnson jr. it's good to see you. thanks for filling in for me yesterday. peter: it was my privilege and honor. meanwhile, straight ahead. the feds owe -- coming up, the fed owes the fed. uncle sam trying to recover billions in unpaid taxes from its own employees. then, can your boss read your private text messages just because they own the phone and pay for the service? that question going all the way to the supreme court. and, take a look, our family has said they captured big foot. one family not our family. it seems to me that someone just got to catch up to him. evidently he is very fast. because no one can actually stop him. ♪ you send me steve: it is your shot of the morning. brian: better be. big foot or big fake? two brothers set up a motion activated camera take pictures of deer nearing their hunting shack in minnesota. you know what? why is my -- alisyn: why is your microphone -- dare i ask. steve: i dropped it. brian: now you are back? steve: these brothers set up this camera in minnesota motion-activated. when they checked out the photos they saw more than bambi. among the pictures was this image. at first they thought it was a picture of a hunter. however no hunters are be income that area. they are suggesting big foot. what do you think? email us now. brian: are you kidding? of course this is it. this is it. you saw how they were set up for deer. alisyn: isn't big foot bigger than that? that looks like a 6-foot tall man in a hairy suit. steve: that very iconic picture that we don't have license to run from decades ago of a guy like in harry suit like harry in the henderson as it turns out years later that guy said yeah that was us that was a prank. brian: when we were first looking for big foot, we were smaller as a human race. the race of americans and humans have gotten taller and taller and taller and now big foot is not that big. steve: it's not about the height, it's about the foot. the kid has big feet. my son wears like a 1 or 14 size shoe. brian: he could be big foot. alisyn: you make great points. do you mind if i interrupt for headlines? steve: we have lots of them. alisyn: we start with a fox news alert because the weather will decide the next move in the search for two missing climbers on mount hood. a major storm is barrelling towards oregon's largest peak. yesterday they were aoun toible toible -- they were able to reach. missing since early friday. the body was found over the weekend. an autopsy shows that he died of hypothermia. brian: another developing story. three american hikers detainedy iran will face trial for espionage. charges the u.s. calls unfounded. earlier on "fox & friends," we got some perspective on what life may be like right now for joshua fattal and sarah shroud and shane becauser -- bower. spent 105 days in solitary confinement in iranian prison. >> i was blindfolded when i was taken for interrogation. i had to sit and face the wall. and the interrogation would last 8 to 9 hours. and i didn't have any contact with the outside world. i was completely cut off from the outside world for three months. brian: scary. she adds she is likely being held in the same ward she was in ward 209. steve: meanwhile, they probably should know better. federal employees apparently owe billions of dollars in unpaid federal taxes. these are federal employees. the irs say employees from nearly every federal agency, when combined owe more than $3 billion last year alone. the agency with the most offenders, the post office. the department with the best record of paying? not surprising, the u.s. treasury. alisyn: wake up and have that cup of coffee or tea right away. researchers at the university of sydney -- can you do it a little more quietly? researchers say having four cups a day quietly, even if it's decaffeinated will lower the risk of developing type 2 diabetes. 18 studies covering half a million people. those who had three to four cups a day. sound sexist. [slurping] >> researchers are still trying to figure out why. brian? brian: thank you very much. maxwell house and taster's choice combined on the effort. i have got to tell you what happened last night on monday night football. the arizona cardinals are looking to clinch second west title. they were supposed to do it last night. they took on the san francisco 49ers and the they continue to have the card's number. alex smith number one pick threw two touchdown strikes. frank gore, 167 yards on the year. turned the ball over seven times to kurt warner interceptions. blue out the cardinals 22-9. the cardinals should clinch the division next week as they travel to detroit. sorry, lions fans. baseball hot steven -- season heating up. many reports close to sending their ace cliff lee not marion necessary in a three team trade. in return they would get roy hall day from the blue jays. red sox were also close to beating -- beefing up their staff. they are about to land john lackey in a big, big, big deal so he would leave the angels. world series mvp. new york yankee mvp gone signed a one year deal. goodbye matsui. one of the great games over the weekend. great sporting events over the weekend took place army navy game before the 110th playing of that game you saw the army line up in perfect formation. they marched out. took about a half hour. they left and went into the stands and out comes navy. and these fine pictures were taken at the game. oliver north's group freedom alliance had us over and freedom alliance provides scholarships for those fallen in battle. families left behind. kids often need money for school. doing a great job of that for years. oliver north, our own, was there for that big event. he gave a great speech and how he goes over to afghanistan and iraq and all the great men and women that he meets and says what he always can count on is that "fox & friends" would put him on to tell the story about the men and women in battle. steve: i heard that from my brother-in-law gus walker last night. he was talking about how when he is over there and he is just retired recently that they watch "fox & friends" and they watch fox all day long and for our many brothers and sisters, american brothers and sisters over there fighting the fight, thank you very much for your service. alisyn: let's talk about this. you send a text message on your company-issued blackberry, do you think your boss is reading those text messages? this is going to be in front of the supreme court this very issue. because some people think it's anonymous. including poor old sergeant jeff kwan who apparently sit reams and reams of text messages, some of them racey. steve: dirty, sexy. alisyn: to his mistress. he was married but he would always text message his mistress and vice versa. all of those ended up being revealed and now that is the basis, the foundation for this supreme court case. brian: the police chief divided to make an example of him. he kept going over his limit. he finally called up the phone company and said do me a favor. print out all the transcripts of everything that's been said through via text message over the last month. came out to 46 pages. in it he had this racey stuff. here is the bigger picture, they go to the ninth district court and they decide that you cannot do that there is a privacy standard in there. this effects a lot of people because a lot of people get their phones paid for by their company and their company owns the phone and pays for the service. so what is privacy? we are going to find out. as this gets kicked upstairs again and if they are found libel, the city of ontario and the wireless company that provided the transcript and the details will be in trouble. steve: brian, this is implication for anybody who does carry a cell phone that is owned by your company or the services paid for by your company. we asked you what you thought about it and janet and kyle in texas said common sense would tell me not to use a business, own phone for anything but business. the employer pays the bill, therefore they own the phone record. he should get his own phone for personal use. talking to your mistress. alisyn: mel says: alisyn: she makes a great point. obviously the blackberry itself is company property. but the content? steve: that's why i use blackberry message bbm because i believe there is no paper trail. brian: now there, thanks, steve. alisyn: i wonder who goose on the loose was. >> that could be my son. steve: so email us on that. by the way, we did ask you a minute ago if you thought that was the real big foot. richard adams in gladstone michigan wrote, lol, laugh out loud, it's obviously a fake. i have the real big foot in my basement. alisyn: oh, god. take a picture and send it to us, please. steve: let's talk about lantern road elementary school had a holiday show. can't call it a christmas show anymore. they had a holiday show. they had different songs that saluted christmas and kwanzaa, hanukkah, ramadan and los -- not a single mention of any deity except allah. now, there apparent whether i complaints from about 30 people. four lived in the district. how can you mention allah and not mention jesus or not mention anybody from any of these other religions? and so the school board or the school, feeling the pressure. decided to just do a little editing right there. alisyn: i have a totally different take on this. steve: they took allah out. alisyn: first of tall said allah is god in the show. the holiday show. i actually applaud this principle because she was trying to do the right thing. as you know, the holiday season is a land mine. it's a mine field for any principal. what they normally do is expunge any religion from it she was why trying to do the opposite. she was trying to include christmas and hanukkah. steve: so mention jesus. alisyn: that's where she got into a little bit of trouble. steve: if you just mention allah and you don't mention jesus and don't mention anything about kwanzaa, that's a problem. alisyn: try be to be inclusive with including songs from different religious. steve: at the present step in the right direction. alisyn: it's inclusion. steve: include the other religions. alisyn: had jesus and mohammed and everybody been mentioned. brian: mohammed and allah interchange jibleg. how did this end? allah is out. a story every homeowner, especially farmers should hear and that will be coming your way. alisyn: entourage star is here. she is ready to help us clean up our holidays, more accurately brian and steve. she will be doing some man escaping on them. alisyn: could your local fishing hole stream or standing water in backyard soon fall under the control of bureaucrats in washington in the senate is proposing to amend the clean water restoration act to give the president unprecedented powers over nearly all the water. one of several lawmakers fighting for what they call a power grab by the senate the e.p.a. and the army corps of engineers. he joins us now. good morning, senator. >> thanks for having me. the u.s. supreme court gave the government authority to 1/2 1/2 gattable. the it would remove the word navigatable why is that monumental change it? >> gives washington control over all the water in the united states. in the committee i tried an amendment to say hey, let's take out mud puddles and prairie potholes leave out ranchers and farmers and they all said. no washington needs more control. that's what we are hearing. that's why the entire western caucus of republican congressman senators said we are fighting this and we said keep this out of any piece of legislation. it's just wrong. it's going to impact on private property rights. impact ranching farmers, electricity transmission lines. it's going to impact communities in the west where water is very scarce. because there is going to be so many rules and regulations. you put the environmental protection agency in charge of, this you are talking about 100 steps. 100 steps to go through the permitting process. we don't need the environmental protection agency doing this. we have states that look at our water. alisyn: the national wildlife foundation says you are wrong about this and your fears are unfounded. jan goldman carter released a statement saying there are a number of very genius exemptions in there similar to the ones you are talking about, particularly for ranchers and farmers that i know. they have been worried about the effect of this legislation. in fact, those worries are largely unfounded. basically her point is nobody is going to be coming into your backyard. this is about wet lands and, frankly, we need more regulation of wet lands. >> then they should have absolutely allowed my amendments that said leave farmers out. leave ranchers out. leave prairie potholes out. leave mud puddles out. they want to regulate mud puddles because they are dirty. it is ridiculous to have this sort of an impact of washington control, washington knows best, one size fits all it doesn't work for the west. it doesn't work for anywhere in our country. we are seeing it now with attempts from washington to take over health care, to take over climate. and now when we see this effort to take control over all of the water in the united states. i'm going to continue to fight it and so are thigh colleagues. alisyn: i understand your argument that is basically the slippery slope, juan, unless you put in that exact language do not touch a puddle in my yard then they could theoretically touch a puddle in your yard. again, what the environmentalists say is that the e.p.a. doesn't have the manpower or budget to be combing through farmer's yards and your own backyard and what they are really most concerned with, again, are the wet lands. >> these environmentalists are the same ones that file suit and tie up our ranchers and farmers. people who want to use public lands for grazing. and they tie them up and because there aren't that many employees as you just said, then the employees of the government can't go through, can't go through the paperwork. and, as a result, there is more delays. any kind of repairs you want to make on your land are blocked because they can't get the approval from the government. so, i would use their same argument against them. the fact that there aren't enough people to look into this means that there will be delays on all the projects that have greater impact and take away more of the rights of the people of the rocky mountain west. alisyn: thanks for coming on with your side of this debate. >> thank you. alisyn: meanwhile, want to get the guy in your life the perfect gift for the holidays? she has the answer to this. she plays flow on entourage. she is here to help you steve. actually. president obama gives himself a solid b plus for his performance so far. we will see what grade laura ingraham would give him. but, first, your day in history. on this date in 1791. the bill of rights became law after virginia was the tenth state to ratify it. on this day in 1939, gone with the wind premiered at the rose grand theater in atlanta. and the number one song on this date in 1991 black or white by michael jackson ♪ . . . . >> you said that this was his. >> it was. i told him you might shut down your visit. >> why did you say that? >> you seem to have a lot of friends. gretchen: best known for her role on "on terrazas" she is turning heads on screen and off. she is here with styling tips for a holiday season. thank you for being here. do you like a man with a 5:00 shadow, a goatee, mustache? >> i like some scruff on the face, very sexy. alisyn: i agree. i have not ever seen steve doocy with any. steve: i think i am at red lobster. [laughter] alisyn: what can you say to men to help them look their best of this holiday season? >> we have amazing products to be used for in nice, a close shave. steve: usually i use of late because i am afraid to cut myself. >> this actually is eerily close shave. alisyn: well, what your doing that i will ask you about the guys on the show. who is the funniest off-camera? >> they are all hilarious. they are all funny in their individual ways. steve: digit light years yet? [laughter] alisyn: who is the sexiest bella turtle -- sexiest? turtle? [laughter] >> they all have their own little unique something going on. alisyn: how is it feeling over there? steve: fine. alisyn: give us another tip. they are never supposed to get rid of a stringent in the winter. you are supposed to stick the teller. -- toner. steve: no one uses after shave anymore. >> there is an amazing product called the body cruiser, for shaving below the neck. alisyn: we are doing that here next, steve. [laughter] steve: nobody cruising, ok? alisyn: is that for men that have those hair sweaters? >> you see, yes. alisyn: how much is the razor? >> between $50.60 dollars. steve: that is a close shave. john, come over here. i notice that he had a 5:00 shadow. alisyn: that will really work on him. what is next on the show? >> well, they are engaged. alisyn: really? >> they are engaged, we will see what happens next season. alisyn: thank you so much for coming on. john, how is it going? steve: what are these 39 s back here -- three nines back here? [laughter] alisyn: thank you for being here. >> thank you. alisyn: meanwhile, breaking news this morning, guantanamo detainee is coming to the u.s.. where is the government going to house them. unemployment lines are growing by the minute but workers in washington, d.c. are getting huge bonuses. what car is your dream ride? that one. some guys will get to drive theirs in a brand new show. we will check that out and take them for a spin. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- alisyn: good morning, everyone. coming to america -- gitmo detainee's, headed to the heartland. everything the u.s. in two minutes. steve: meanwhile, a full court press on senator joe lieberman today. who is laying serious he on the independent senator to try to win his vote for health care? brian: he is going to the white house, that should be fun. the second miracle on the hudson. two passengers came together on that flight, now they are dancing together every night. our slogan comes from pennsylvania -- when there is a windstorm that blows out like a ball, i cannot watch "fox & friends" which makes me flying in and out -- whine and pout. steve: first we have got some breaking news. brian: you are in for gretchen today. alisyn: i am. right now we want to have a live look hollywood. what a fascinating shot. these are where the golden globe nominations are about to be announced. steve: in 18 minutes. brian: justin kimberlite will be revealing the contenders. who is going to get the big nominations? we have our own theories. golden globes are foreign press, right? steve: exactly. brian: so, who knows what they're thinking. steve: of the award show's that one is the liveliest. they do it at the beverly hills hilton. and they are drinking. those great big round tables are covered with campaign. alisyn: and it is less scripted from the other ones that have become snooze fests, quite honestly. meanwhile, i have your headlines. president obama will meet with democrats this afternoon to urge them to come together to pass a bill for christmas. they appear to be on the verge of a new compromise. lawmakers made the announcement late last night to get rid of the new plan. >> we know that this has been a long and difficult process. we have gone over the hurdles like a steeplechase. with puddles in front of us we will jump over the finish line. alisyn: democrats are trying to win over the support of joe lieberman, who has threatened to filibuster if the expansion of medicare is not taken out. federal prosecutors are considering sending a gitmo detainee to new york to face trial. he is considered a high value detainee because it is believed that he met with khalid sheikh mohammed. this city could now be hosting two carol -- terror trials. the payback on target money -- t.a.r.p. from wells fargo will be paid back using a sheriff's sale. the chairman accused regulators of forcing banks to take the money and called the system asinine. make sure that you know what you are buying for a present this holiday season. $26 million in knockoffs have been seized by the fed's around the nation. >> you are putting an american worker out of a job, giving your money not to and -- not to a legitimate business. you might save a few dollars up front, but you are harming yourself and your country. alisyn: five people were arrested in what has been dubbed operation holiday hope. the mexican government carry out raids across the border. there are rumors this morning that kate hudson and alex rodriguez are no longer an item. neither ever really admitted to having a relationship that the first place. steve: but she showed up at every game. alisyn: yes, she did. with her parents. alex rodriguez was seen with beautiful women in miami. kate hutton was seen working out in front of a gem window for three hours. steve: strange. sari and will not work out for those crazy kids. laura is joining us from washington, d.c., preparing for her radio show. good morning, laura. >> who works out more in front of a gem window? kate hudson or anderson cooper? i do none know if i can stay for two segments because i am on the edge of my seat for the golden globes. seriously. tina fey has competition this year, late edition, nancy pelosi. [laughter] steve: it sounds as if the federal government -- the president made it clear when he took office that he would be closing down gitmo. now what we know that they are being sent to the thomson correctional institute, a little-used state facility in illinois. they are sending a lot of the guys there. what do you think? >> this shows you how tone deaf the administration is. gitmo is secure, we have already paid for it. we have to stop buying things that we do not have the money for. i guess this is another jobs program for the obama administration. maybe we will have american people at work. but to me it is tone deaf. the american people do not care and do not wanted. >> the village president likes the idea because he thinks it will put those people there back to work. steve: jobs. >> i would rather that it goes to chicago. if we are sending corrupt people anywhere, it should go right to the heart of chicago. maybe the administration there can give them aid and support. he has to do this because he campaigned on it. will that help matters or make the system more efficient? brian: but it will make us safer, it is so much harder to recruit someone knowing that they are in the illinois prison. and it is actually nicer ed gitmo. >> you get to fly in the sun in the cages all day. the entire thing about president obama's our reach to the muslim world -- what have we gotten since that our reach? more home -- more homegrown terrorism, the somali american problem in the fort hood killing. the outreach has to be tempered with smart policies. steve: speaking of intelligence, the house intelligence committee is meeting this morning to figure out whether or not they should even reveal to the illinois congressional delegation whether or not they will have access to the security information. if they put these guys somewhere in america, they are trying to figure out how dangerous it will be for the locals. >> there are so many issues raised by bringing these detainee's it to the united states. the fact of the matter is that the system as it is today is actually working. every senator has been down there. even democrats have said wow, we are surprised at how this operation works. look, it is efficient, it works and it is paid for. we should not be borrowing from china to pay for this. brian: as you know, we have a high unemployment rate. in know who is being hit really hard? the kids coming out of college. 20 years old, 24 years old, they do not have a job for the next few years. could the obama youth affect dissipate? >> i saw that piece in "the new york times." i los angeles my nephews -- in los angeles, nephews tell me that all their friends are unemployed. if this keeps going in is not only horrible for these young people, it is terrible for the democratic party had no good for the democratic party. hope and change is turning out to be hopelessness. alisyn: the president went on oprah winfrey. he gave himself a grade for its presidency. >> what grade would you give it for yourself this year? >> a solid b +. we have inherited the biggest set of challenges of any president since franklin roosevelt. steve: he goes on to say that he would have given himself a higher grade but health care is unresolved and there are not enough jobs in this country. laura, if you were to grade the president, what grade would you give him? >> if i were a teacher in this circumstance, i would probably hold him back a year. i would force him to go back and take rudimentary economics and history. once he does that i will give him a grade. but right now he clearly does not understand the basics. steve: what about a business class? >> what ever we need to do to get him up to speed to where he needs to be as commander-in- chief of the most important nation on earth, i am all about it. brian: he has kept composure under pressure. he has done exactly what he said he would do in afghanistan. he has reached out to our enemies. the other thing is, the economy is getting back on its feet, is it not? >> christine romer says no, larry summers says yes. here is my point. if the two top economic advisers cannot agree on that. what else are we being told that is not true. i found that to be frightening. not funny. when within a span of a few hours they say absolutely opposite things. if you talk to people that are out of work, tone deaf. the floods? time to stop blaming george bush. that is looking juvenile. steve: president obama -- conan o'brien has a different take. >> oprah winfrey asked president obama what grade he would give himself. he said b +. then oprah winfrey shirker head and said she did not pay for a b plus -- shocked her head and said she did not pay for a b plus. >> my favorite point of that special was when it opened a that president obama pretended like oprah winfrey was just stopping by. the code red rally, 1:30, no health care in the u.s. capitol. alisyn: be right back. brian: joe lieberman is going to have an interesting day at the white house today. the senator that has gone independent is not siding with democrats when it comes to the by i went into medicare. the big compromise on the public option is not happening because of joe lieberman. can you believe it? >> one person. one person is standing between this bill passage in failure. our message to joe lieberman, 60% of the public does not want the bill. medicare gets cut by this bill by hundreds of billions of dollars, regardless of the public option being removed. that is an entire canard. once the public option is defeated things are fine. but things ought will not be fine. across the board this thing is unpopular. joe lieberman, i think, is getting his arm twisted a little bit. steve: maybe he will get out a big checkbook. we have heard about all of these different colored rallies. what is code red? >> this is not my rally, but i am participating in the code red rally. we have an emergency with politics in the united states of america. the people do not feel represented. you can go to my web site for more information, finding out more details about how you can get their and what will happen. a message to people like joe lieberman and jim webb, all of these so-called moderates, to stand up. brian: your show is on from 9:00 until noon, just like every day. >> thank you. alisyn: coming up, that husband of the missing utah mother is getting a lawyer with a very prominent attorney. steve: washington, d.c. is awash in red ink. you know that. why are so many workers giving millions of dollars in bonuses? next. alisyn: this is a developing story we have been following for you. one utah mother, missing for more than one week. her husband has hired a lawyer. police are prepared to question him again in connection with her disappearance. her best friend joins us now to talk about this. thank you so much for being with us. we know that this is an agonizing week for you. we understand you and your husband are best friends with she and her husband. what do you think has happened to susan? >> she would not leave her family. she would not leave without contacting anyone or her children. whatever has happened is against her will. alisyn: we know that josh told the police last week that he left his wife sleeping in her bed at midnight, taking the boys over the weekend on a camping trip. even though there were subfreezing temperatures in utah last weekend. what do you make of this story? >> it is very strange, very bizarre. they do go on camping trips occasionally. they go over the summer. but they have never got at night or in the middle of the winter. i find it strange. >> we know that they have had past marriage troubles. what has she said to you about the state of her marriage? >> i do not want to go into a lot of detail, to protect their privacy, but i know that they have had major problems in the past. they have spoken about divorce, but they have also told us that things have gotten much better recently. alisyn: i know that you have been in touch with the house and every day. how is he doing? >> normally he is a good talker, but he is very distraught. he is much more quiet and subdued, with tears in his eyes. alisyn: this is a tough position for you. you are close friends with both of them. do you think that josh is somehow this -- somehow involved in the disappearance? >> that is the conclusion that everyone seems to be making because the circumstances are so unusual, but i think that he is innocent until proven otherwise. he is my friend and going through hard date. alisyn: does it seem suspicious that he does hired a high- profile attorney? >> the police keep telling everyone that he has a right to a lawyer, so if he hires what it does not mean he is guilty. alisyn: we appreciate your insight, we know how tough this has been for you. we hope that susan is found in the there is a cop -- positive outcome for you. steve: $43 million earmarked for job creation, spent on providing workers with cushy retirement packages. this is not stimulating growth and they are downsizing? how is that possible? brian: we will see who will walk away from the golden globes a winner and who will be crying. steve: are they drinking already? brian: pretty sure. steve: two passengers were brought together on the hudson river. flight 1549. straight ahead. alisyn: as we have been telling you today, the white house is expected to announce that one illinois prison is going to house guantanamo detainees. the thomson correctional facility is about 150 miles from chicago. steve: mike, what do we know about thompson and this decision? >> we understand that the idea is that less than 100 gitmo detainee's will be housed there. the white house is selling the idea that they will take other federal prisoners. we have heard from a variety of officials that as we keep the president's commitment towards closing guantanamo bay, that would lessen the recruiting tool of al qaeda and our enemies. we understand that the president will have pat quinn and dick durbin here to make the announcement. steve brian: has congress been notified about the decision? >> we understand that senior members of congress gave a heads up that this was coming today. they made the case that this would lessen overcrowding by creating another federal facility in that area west of chicago. they made the case that they felt that this was good from a national security perspective because it headed towards the goal of closing guantanamo bay. there was a message sent out to senior members of congress last night. alisyn: what are the concerns? >> the top republican on the house judiciary committee made the case that simply changing the geography is not going to win any popularity contests and moving them to illinois will do no good. this concerns are about transportation. as well as legal concerns about moving to u.s. soil. lamar smith is making the case that by moving and the u.s. soil you will be giving them constitutional rights in the opportunity to sue american officials for being a house on american soil. we expect that we will hear more of those concerns from critics. steve: sells like a great deal. mike, thank you so much for that thorough report. meanwhile, the weather will probably decide to move coming next four two missing climbers. yesterday crews were able to search the unreachable levels of the mountain with the help of a blackhawk helicopter. the body of the third hiker was found over the weekend. an autopsy shows that he died of hypothermia. alisyn: police and protesters arrived early this morning. a car was allegedly set on fire , talks inside stopped after members of the country walked out. al gore is also making some headlines in denmark. the former vice-president said that the arctic ocean to be free of ice by the year 2014. he was quoting from a private conversation he had had with a scientist, who now says that al gore is wrong. he says he would never have tried to estimate something like that. steve: federal stimulus money designed to help save and create jobs was spend on salaries and bonuses for departing employees at the university of iowa. early retirement or leaving the school, they used almost 6 million on outgoing employees. the president of iowans for tax relief says that ultimately it is a good idea. >> we showed common-sense values and said that we would spend it on short-term obligations, because that is all it is good for. >> i can tell you that i am sending you a boat, but if you get one in your driveway, do not put it in the water. steve: after reviewing the government website that tracks stimulus spending, it is not clear how many, if any jobs, were saved or created by the millions of dollars. brian: tiger woods gave an interview before the sex scandal broke. saying that having a family was the best thing that ever happened to him. his popularity rating is plunging. only 33% of americans have a favorable view of him. his unfavorable ratings have switched to 57%. steve: look at that. in june, 2005. 85%. alisyn: who still has a favorable view? brian: bill might says to give it a few years and it will all be forgotten. steve: if he comes back. brian: he is coming back. steve: the government is strapped right now. new york state has jacked up taxes for people that brought a paycheck in this state. governments, meanwhile, are trying to get smaller. why are some employees winding up with very juicy bonuses? brian: it is hard to make sense of it. you have the teachers' union, small things. i am stunned that there are bonuses given to these people at all in light of the recession. michael steele talked about how much money was actually being spent, and how in the bigger picture this could be a redistribution of wealth. >> there is a fundamental effort to redistribute the wealth created and earned in this nation to government through whatever policies that fit and work. health care is just the first wave. carjack is another way in which they empower institutions that are beholden to the government. alisyn: looking at washington, d.c., that city has obviously had financial troubles. but who got the big bonuses? they gave out $50 million in bonuses since 2007. one of the biggest changes was that michelle reid got $41,000 in bonuses after two months on the job. furthermore steve: she must be doing a great job. alisyn: despite the fact that these eighth graders on the tests are the second worst in the country. she also did have to fire a lot of people in her department. but not the top staff, who got a lion's share of bonuses. interesting to look at where they are going. steve: a spokesperson for the police union said there were not enough cops, firemen, or teachers, because there was not enough money. but at the same time they are lining the pockets of their favorites. speaking of increases, if you are a senior citizen and the government has given you a cost of living increase, and you will love be getting another this year. if you are lucky enough to be a guy down in washington, d.c., you could be one of those lucky guys. alisyn: better for seniors, cost of living as the run-up but for the first time they will not be getting a cost of living increase? brian: you will not believe this, but it has been about one year since the miracle on the hudson. passengers have gone together a few times. two passengers in particular are the focus this morning. their relationship has come into the limelight. how do you say their names? anyways, it turns out that he spotted her before they got of the flight. he thought that she was attractive and wanted to talk to her. they wind up standing on the wing of the airplane and get rescue dramatically, the most dramatic manner in the history of this country. but then they still cannot meet. then they meet again in july for a television special. then he tells her -- i am ben. i was looking at you before we got on the flight. they talked until 6:00 in the morning. alisyn: great role playing, there. [laughter] brian: that is pretty much my line. alisyn: and it works every time. [laughter] the point is that they stayed up talking late at the reunion party. listen to this, he crashed at her place. get it? he says it is the second time they have crashed together. brian callanan has not stopped there, has it? steve: note, and as we strangely play music from romeo and juliet, which had a different end to the story. [laughter] this is a love story, they have been dating for a number of months. right now there are a romantic crews in the caribbean. you and tell the they are still in the early stages of dating, because they end each day with a dance. because it is the perfect way to decompress and love life so that the day ends on a good note. you know what? considering all the stuff that those two and all of the survivors went through, i would be dancing as well. alisyn: beautiful. all right, next -- brian: are you ok? alisyn: de [fake crying] i am ok. but there are new news -- there is new news about cat scans and cancer. brian: vampires, has it gone too far? alisyn: welcome back, everyone. time for some headlines. the italian prime minister could be getting out of the hospital tomorrow after getting hit by a small statue thrown by a man with a history of mental illness. he was heard asking doctors about why people hate him so much. troubling news regarding cat scans. research from new studies today show that overuse of the scans could be causing nearly 15,000 cancer deaths each year. each machine varies in how much radiation its limits. steve: from dracula to buffy the vampire slayer, mythical bloodsuckers have been a dominant source in media. right now it is the success of twilight and true blood, vampires have risen from the redgrave again. now you can study the undead in a new class being offered at texas christian university. joining us now is a student and a professor sign up in the spring. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. steve: this is your idea, professor. what is it all about? >> obviously there has been an increase in the popularity of the vampires over the last few years. i thought that this would be a great chance to look at the role of the vampire in american culture. steve: these are made up creatures, so are you just talking about the impact in movies or what? >> i guess what i want is to be able to trace how they serve as a metaphor for different things at different times. going all the way back to 1922, tracing the metaphor all the way up to today. steve: sydney, why did you decide to take their class? >> i wanted to find out more about this popular following and understand why it is and what creates the following. steve: have you read the twilight books? >> i have not. i am actually a fan of "true blood." hopefully i will read the books soon. steve: professor, my daughters are big fans of "twilight." if my daughter had the opportunity i am sure that she would take his class as well. she said she has gotten into literature and media as well. that is why this is part of the new media, radio, television and film sequence, is it not? >> yes, the department we are part of is part of the film, television, and the digital media department. it means that we offer classes that analyze popular media. the vampire subtext is hot right now, we thought that there could not be a better course to offer. steve: sydney, what do you hope to get out of this? >> to learn the evolution of the vampire and why it is so popular now. vampire is now are more alluring and sexy. it would be interesting to learn how it has evolved. steve: right. sydney, what about your parents? how do they feel about you taking vampire classes? should you not be studying shakespeare or something? >> our art history. i know. they are actually excited. it is relevant to pop culture and what is going on right now. so, i think they are excited as well. this is a little bit out there, but they know that it goes along with the film and television industry. steve: tricia, sydney, thank you for joining us live today. >> thank you. steve: you bet. coming up, jesse james gets in the fast lane with some hot cars. first, we will check in with julia for a preview. -- juliet for a preview. juliet: will have a fair and balanced debate about gitmo terrorist. another lightning rod issue off the table for good when it comes to the senate, the democratic health care plan. we will discuss which one that is. would you be able to survive in the wilderness in the mountains? we will talk to some survivalists that can help you stay safe and sound. >> i have never been in a car like this before. it will be fantastic. steve: she is a superstar country singer that is into speed. she is excited about the dream ride and what she has been doing with the troops. jesse james, you are officially welcome to to our show. >> thank you. i actually got to ride in this car. is it not amazing? alisyn: beautiful. how did you get involved? >> i have always been involved in nascar. when they asked me to be a part of this program, it made perfect sense. you can see the commercials everywhere. there is a massive campaign. brian: what is this? a spider lamborghini? >> this is the fastest 1. alisyn: how fast does it go? >> most of these can go at least 200 miles per hour. alisyn: if i can only get in one, of which one would you recommend? of >> what you think? alisyn: i will give it a shot. bill: dream ride, you are giving people a chance to hop in their dream cars? >> right. he would get the opportunity to meet kyle petty and mario andretti. brian: in your song, bullet, is the theme? >> it made perfect sense. alisyn: someone broke the door. [laughter] brian: let me close this. your father is in the air force? >> yes. you had a chance to appear with kid rock, how was that? >> it was incredible. brian: back in a moment. de brian: golden globe nominations are out. who led the way? george clooney's new movie has six nominations. callison out he is -- alisyn: that is what i want to see. best picture, comedy, "five days of summer,", "julia and julia." amongst television nominees, "madman," "and modern family." "madman," "and modern family."

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