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news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute -- www.ncicap.org -- gretchen: i guess that's taylor swift. brian: it is. she's outside on the veranda. steve: that's how she opened her "c.m.a." appearance last night. we have some major news according to this hasan character. according to doctor who's queried him in 2008, i believe, some of the doctors who were overseeing him felt that he was psychotic and capable of killing american soldiers. in fact, at one point somebody said, you know, he is one guy you don't want in your foxhole. brian: disconnectedded, paranoid, belligerent and exitsoid. thank you. meanwhile, an unnamed army officer said if we had launched an investigation -- this is to your point, politically correct inside the military? is that the case? we would have been criticized. they feared a probe of hasan would have been viewed as a violation of his first amendment rights. gretchen: and here's the other big thing though. if these group of doctors warned that he was psychotic, they are handing the defense their excuse. you see, now his defense lawyer, who he interviewed on the show yesterday, will be able to go back to these reports. he's going to call these doctors to testify on the stand and they're going to say, yup, we thought he was sig c.i.a. could thetic. and there you go. that would be the snapped theory as opposed to the theory a lot of people believe in, that this was a terrorist attack. that will be the way in which the defense will be able to build a case now, by these doctors' testimonies. steve: they had a good excuse for it. it shows you the bureaucracy that is the army. they said, you know, firing a doctor is really hard. it's cumbersome and there are essentially a lot of forms to fill out so what they did ultimately at the end was they decided, considering we were a little worried about this guy, let's send him to fort hood to continue with his training and his work there because they felt that it was such a big base, there would be plenty of supervision, and if he stepped out of line, what they could do is document the trouble. gretchen: it's interesting. they're sort of providing a cover for him, a place for him to hide amongst a lot of other capable people. and the interesting thing is, right after this happened, we talked to judge napolitano about whether or not these families affected would be able to sue the army as a result. case in point, if you're trying to provide cover for somebody, allegedly, it's interesting to know that these people cannot sue the army. but it sounds like they might have a good case if they could. brian: the judge will be on later. on top of that, just as many people said he was psychotic, all of that, there's two doctors quoted saying deposit view him as a -- didn't view him as a threat at all. so on top of that, as well, when you talk about this hasan character, in the big picture i think a lot of people had trouble come down on him because it was a fear they would be labeled a bigot, discriminatory. steve: exactly right. also, there is information now about perhaps one of the guns that was used in the rampage. in august of 2009, apparently this guy walked into a store in killeen, texas, called guns galore, and he absolutely legally purchased one of these tactical handguns. here's the thing. he underwent, submitted himself, to an f.b.i. background check and he was cleared. think about that for a second. he went through an f.b.i. background check. wait a minute. wasn't the f.b.i. investigating him as early as a year earlier? the answer is yes. but because of the brady law, which is very limiting in how the f.b.i. can report gun sales, one part of the f.b.i. didn't alert the other part of the f.b.i. brian: the joint terrorist task force didn't tell the f.b.i. this investigation was going on. that would have stopped the gun sale from happening. or if the gun sale did go through immediately, there would be said, you know that guy we were looking at? yesterday he just bought a gun or 30 minutes ago he just bought a gun therefore they would have had to ask. gretchen: why am i taking off my shoes at the airport? that's the question i'm asking. why are we taking off our shoes when we go to the airport if people who are on the terrorist watch list can still buy guns? i don't get that. steve: meanwhile, about 60% you have think this should be handled as a terrorist attack. also, yesterday oprah winfrey sat down with two of the hero officers from fort hood. the first one you're going to hear from is sergeant kimberly monemunley. she is the cop who it is believed brought down hasan. here she is describing the scene. she had been getting her car washed when trouble broke out. >> you remember the whole thing? the whole incident? >> i do. i never lost consciousness. i refused -- i wanted to stay awake and know everything that was going on and control my breathing to make sure i was not going to fall into shock, wanted to know everything that was going on because it was pretty chaotic. >> is it true this was the first time you had ever had to use your weapon? i read that someplace. >> yes, it is. 25 years in law enforcement and prior military, i've been really fortunate not to have to pull my weapon before. once it happened, i relied on my training. like, ok, this is happening. you've been trained to do this, react. brian: here's what she was saying to herself, sergeant munley. "i just said, mark, calm down, relax, breathe and shoot." she got shot a couple of times, hit the ground, and then hasan kept walking and started putting another magazine in his gun at which time sergeant todd came on the other side and shot him and knocked him to the ground. evidently he would shoot him again or someone else would shoot him again because he would kick the gun away and then cuff him. now, she was shot three times. hasan was shot, we believe, four times. so other bullets were flying. but it's not so much the original story of just sergeant munley taking him down, and the partner, sergeant todd, finishing the job. maybe sergeant todd was doing most of the shooting. not that that matters much, the heroic acts is unbelievable. steve: one of those still frames we showed you is a fellow at her bedside. that was secretary of defense robert gates. he was one -- there he is right there. there he was visiting her in the hospital. she is now out of the hospital and would like to return to work as quickly as she can. gretchen: and the other guy that brian's talking about, sergeant todd, will be joining us live. now the rest of your headlines. you're look at new video now of secretary of state hillary clinton arriving in the philippines this morning. she's there to show support for the country in its fight against muslim extremists but not everyone is happy to see her. hundreds of demonstrators lined the streets protesting clinton's visit and the u.s. involvement in the wars in afghanistan. a maryland man is dead after being hit by vehicles that were part of vice president joe biden's motorcade. it happened between andrews air force base and washington. the secret service says an armed limousine being driven back to the garage in washington. vice president joe biden was not in either vehicle. the jury now considering the death penalty for the man they convicted of killing an arkansas television anchor. jurors found curtis vance guilty of capital murder, rape and burglary. anne pressley was found in her home, beaten so badly she never regained consciousness. he was forced to resign as the governor of new york after being involved in a high-priced prostitution scandal. but today, well, eliot spitzer has turned over a new leaf. he's talking to harvard students about ethics. a woman is outraged and wrote a letter protesting the event. but harvard -- a harvard professor hosting the event insists spitzer is there not to talk about ethics but rather speak on institutional corruption. those are your headlines. some people might argue those are still the same topics. anyway. steve: last night in terrytown, new york, roger al he s who invented the fox news channel -- there he is. what's around his neck? that's a neckerchief. he was awarded by the boy scouts of america. and what a night it was. brian: rush limbaugh flew in. there's gretchen. he flew in and introduced roger ailes before he got his award, an incredible speech. believe it or not, he didn't have to write it down. he was able to ad lib the entire thing. gretchen: he does do a three-hour radio show every day. it was a wonderful event. these young boys, one of them god up to speak and he had the whole crowd in his hand. he was very funny. brian: 12 years old. gretchen: 12 years old. it brought us all back to what we remembered growing up, traditional values. tsms a wonderful night -- it was a wonderful night. also our own bill hemmer was the host. he did a fantastic job. steve: so here he is, the good scout of 2009, roger ailes, last night. >> every generation gets called to meet a challenge. this generation will as well. i am heartened to know that what the enemies of america don't know is that some day they will meet the courage, resilience, dedication of these young americans we are so proud of, and they will keep america free. thank you. brian: and also his son zach was called up by rush. he's got unbelievable composure. he's got more composure at 9 than i have now, on stage. steve: it's appropriate roger was warded the good scout award. he always tells us here at fox news, "be prepared for anything." gretchen: coming up, is the administration withholding critical information related to the fort hood attack? congressman pete heokstra says yes. he'll be here to explain. brian: and another pilot pulled from the cockpit because he had too much to drink. how often does this happen? we're going to talk to a pilot who was convicted of flying drunk. steve: plus country's biggest stars come out for their big night at the country music award. details on who took home the hardware straight ahead. gretchen: 14 minutes after the top of the hour, accused murderer drew peterson giving the media first dibs on buying his house. the former police sergeant wants to sell the home to payoff legal bills. he says the media could use the place as base camp while covering his trial. peterson, currently in jail, charged with the killing of his third wife. we want to correct a story we told you about yesterday. virgin america, not virgin atlantic, is the airline that partnered with google to offer free wi-fi this holiday season in 47 airports in the u.s. steve? steve: there you go. the f.b.i. now admits it missed crucial red flags in the case of suspected fort hood shooter nidal hasan. and the -- and is the obama administration holding become key information? joining us live, michigan congressman pete heokstra, the ranking member on the house intelligence committee. good morning, sir. >> good morning. steve: i heard you say a couple of days ago that the -- essentially the government was withholding information from you. you're on a key committee. have they loosened up a bit now? >> they have. i asked for a briefing over the weekend. the intelligence community or the white house refused to give us that briefing. i didn't consider that an option for them. their requirement is to keep us fully and timely informed. they didn't do that. they finally opened up. i think things are better now. i'm hoping we're going to get all the information and transparency that we need to fully get to the bottom of what happened at fort hood. steve: you know, it looks like now somebody, perhaps at the f.b.i., should have been connecting some dots. we know back in december of last year, apparently, this hasan character was picked up by a terrorism task force, noticing that he was e-mailing that radicallizer imam over in yemen. then, you know, he bought a gun just a couple of months ago. he went through an f.b.i. check. and then apparently some of the doctors who were supervising him at walter reed, sir, said we think this guy's -- the quote was, "psychotic and capable of killing american soldiers" like that guy did in kuwait a couple of years ago. there should have been a whole bunch of red flags blown up here. >> it appears like that. we're going to have to wait until we get all of the information. the other question we're going to have to ask, steve is whether all of this information made it to a single point to a single individual or single investigative unit that they could have put all the dots together or were there some people intimidated because, you know, making these accusations could have been seen as being politically incorrect, so the information never moved through the organization and never got to where it should have gotten. steve: that's a horrible idea. also, apparently some of these doctors who were supervising him said, look, to fire a doctor, it's really complicated. there are a lot of forms to fill out. there could be a little challenge. -- a legal challenge. let's send him down to fort hood. well, we know what happened after that. when you look at the new poll, sir, that shows something like 60% of americans say that this should be pursued a terrorist act, that's what a lot of people are wondering right now. some suggested in the administration we'll go after this as a criminal act. is it an act of terrorism? >> from my perspective all the pieces start coming together. the outreach to the imam overseas, the power point presentation he put together, the information that you gave about some other docs, their analysis of him. i think those are all red flags. and i think the american people looked at this over the weekend and said, you know, this walks like terrorism, it talks like terrorism, it acts like terrorism. why is this administration calling it a crime or saying that this is an individual that broke? they're saying this threat from terrorism is real, and it appears that this administration is unwilling to recognize it. i think it hurts the credibility of the obama administration in their efforts to combat a very, very difficult problem. steve: we were chatting during the break. you told me that apparently the c.i.a. now, rather than looking for all the evildoers, some of them, are being asked to investigate the dangers of climate change. the c.i.a.! >> yeah. we've gone through in a couple of times. we went through it with the clinton administration when they had a program in place which we called bugs and bunnies where they dedicated c.i.a. resources to doing climate change investigation. the c.i.a. has now put back in place that department or that group of people. it's kind of like -- you know, the c.i.a., their business is stealing secrets. i thought climate change was pretty much open source information. we've got big enough problems here. we don't need to be stealing secrets on climate change. steve: congressman from michigan, pete heokstra. we thank you for joining us. >> thank you. steve: thank you, sir. oh boy. meanwhile, a united airlines pilot so strunk in the u.k. he locked himself in the cockpit for an hour. passengers were told he was sick. how often does that happen? coming up, the pilot who lost his license for flying drunk tells us what needs to change in the sky and on the ground. and he may be retired from the ring, but mike tyson is still throwing punches. how iron mike's latest victim got him a free ride in that police car. gretchen: a 51-year-old pilot arrested in london for allegedly being drunk minutes before he was supposed to take off from heathrow airport with more than 100 passengers on a flight to chicago. brian: they told the passengers, well, he's just sick. reports that irwin vermont washington barricaded himself inside the cockpit for over an hour before police talked him out of it. this is a new report from the federal aviation administration, reports that an average of 11 commercial pilots test positive for alcohol while attempting to fly each year. gretchen: a pilot was put in prison for being intoxicated while in the cockpit and then wrote a book about the experience. i guess that you can empathize with this pilot who was busted in the u.k. >> yes. i think probably people who are in this situation, more than likely, are probably suffering from one of three stages of alcoholism, i would assume. i don't think pilots are rule breakers. i don't think people set out to break rules. i think pilots are about flying safely. know i can speak for myself. when i was in this situation, i was humiliated and ashamed, very embarrassed. i had compromised my own personal value system. we study about airplanes. we try very hard to be safe. i found out myself after the flight that i had residual alcohol in my system. brian: let's say he admits, i'm drunk, that's it. what should happen to him? should he be banned for life? should he go to treatment? >> i think it's important that we address the issue, which is alcoholism. it would be a shame to ban someone for life in a situation like this, especially if they were going to go to treatment to vhave an open mind. i wrote the book to bring my face, a human face, to this number one issue in america, alcoholism. gretchen: and you were given a second chance. right? >> yes. which was a miracle because the company that hired me was a company other than the company that i had been working for before. so it was a nine-year, very difficult struggle. i had gone to federal prison. in fact, i went tie maximum -- to a maximum security prison for a while, quite shocking to me. gretchen: do you agree the airlines need these stringent policies to rout out the problem? >> i think education will rule out the problem. the more we know about it, the more crew members know about it, flight attendants know about it, then they're able to identify a situation. a policy isn't going to stop someone from drinking. gretchen: in this case identifying was key because the members of the crew noticed something was off. >> absolutely. that shows we're making progress. prior to 1972 pilots enabled one another. knowing your friend would lose his or her job for life, we would get them into the cockpit, get them from point a to point b, get them home to their families. this doesn't occur today, i don't believe, as freakily as it used to -- frequently as it used to because we have a program. brian: it's happening on the roads. and now it's happen in the skies. joe, your perspective is valuable. gretchen: he was given a second chance. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. i appreciate it. gretchen: you're welcome. back to square one. president obama rejecting all the options in afghanistan. is that true? that's apparently a report that's coming out this morning now, rejecting all options. we will explore that. brian: and country music stars defending one of their own last night. listen. >> ♪ mama's don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ brian: what you missed in last night's "c.m.a.'s." and -- gretchen: happy birthday as we do every morning. neil young's birthday, a young 64. happy birthday. brian: a young 64? gretchen: yeah. why not? ree r thevla wos inge o ats te dee s d foe t , ew cal thly% raeer swes ne llll ju caesac tuav thci usve n suyo rand tuswne swta™ ♪ steve: amazing. taylor swift last night became the youngest winner of c.m.a.'s. she won the best single, the best album -- no. entertainer of the year. female vocalist and music video as well. gretchen: this time she actually got to receive all of those awards on stage and not be booted off by kanye west. brian: let me tell you something, that was wrong for him to do. clearly it put his career in a tailspin. she's extremely talented. but in the long run it's going to help her. she hosts "saturday night live" because kanye west interrupted her. steve: and today we're talking about it again because last night at the "c.m.a.'s" they spoofed kanye. here they are doing a little song you've never heard before. >> ♪ mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ >> ♪ let them pick guitars and drive them old trucks cowboys have manners they don't interrupt ♪ steve: very, very funny. by the way, a friend of this show, darius rucker, who 15, 19 years ago got started with hooty and the blowfish. brian: he was a guest host. gretchen: he's been a guest since i've been onboard as well. steve: darius rucker won best new artist last night. brian: all because -- his debut in country. we should try that. we could win next year. steve: what country? brian: that's a good point. czech republic. steve: congratulations to all the big winners last night. there she is getting one of her awards. gretchen: this is an amazing story just coming out this morning. back to the drawing board? could that be the case? that's what president obama is telling his national security team now, rejecting apparently all options that they just put forward for the war in afghanistan. joining us live from washington, d.c., caroline shively. caroline, i was stunned to read in this morning. i thought this couldn't possibly be true because we thought we were right on the precipice of the president making his announcement. >> gretchen, it is true. the president said no to all four options yesterday unless there's some substantial changes. a white house official tells fox that two key sticking points came out during that war council meeting. one, the time lines. the president wants revisions to clarify how and when u.s. troops would turn over responsibility to the afghan government. and, two, mounting questions about the credibility of the government. the answers he gets from the war council will affect how many more troops he sends. another issue, administration officials say that president obama wants to make it clear that the u.s. commitment in afghanistan is not open-ended. military sources have told fox this week that the president appears to be focused on a plan that would send more than 30,000 more soldiers and marines to the war, some fighters and some trainers. general stanley mcchrystal has asked for 40,000. the option that the president is considering aren't just troop levels. they're also projected outcomes and strategies. it appears the war council will have to go back and revise the plans, not completely throw them out, then present them again. the president leaves for asia this morning. he gets back next thursday. don't expect any answers before then. critics say he needs to hurry up. yesterday republican senator john mccain says he thinks the country owes it to the men and women of the military to have that decision made as soon as possible. those extra troops most likely wouldn't start moving into afghanistan until early next year. that's if the president made that decision today. steve, gretchen and brian, back to you. brip thanks. the president wants to speed up the deployment, if they're going to do it. steve: winter is coming. if they're going to put the guys over there, they better do it quickly. brian: ambassador elkenberry, an officer in the military up until a few months ago, september two cables over from kabul, afghanistan, expressing deep concerns about sending troops over because the karzai government, according to him, has not demonstrated they're willing to clean up the corruption that is rampant. here's the problem. we can't say, ok, you better clean it up or else. hamid karzai knows what do you mean or else? if we pull our troops out, taliban take over, al qaeda calls it home, and pakistan starts fighting. karzai knows that. you have to find a different leverage. steve: it would seem this is a no-brainer to move ahead as quickly as possible. brian: at the same time, putting oversight on the operations. gretchen: somebody who might know something about that is general colin powell. as you know, he endorsed president obama. he decided this time around that president obama was his guy. he was asked recently on a radio show what his thoughts were about the president taking his time to make the afghanistan troop decision. here's what he said. >> this is a very difficult one for him. it isn't just a one-time decision. this is the decision that will have consequences for the better part of his administration gretchen: don't you think that's very striking? it seems to be a middle of the road approach and what a lot of people would say how the president has decided to lean in the last year, it taking not necessarily down the middle but not necessarily making a decision. steve: what's fromming for me about that is the fact that he's talking about politics. don't listen to the left. don't listen to the right. making it a political decision. and clearly in that room where he did convene his war council yesterday. politics is a consideration. brian: as you know, general colin powell, general mccristal in there says time is the's yens. general mckiernan, whom mcchrystal replace the, said whatever you do, act quickly, we can't wait. guess what we're doing. waiting until the president comes back from asia. gretchen: the president campaigned a lot on afghanistan being a big issue. and colin powell said the people elect you had to make this decision -- elected you to make this decision. they also elected him to make a decision quickly, i think, because he made a great deal about it in the campaign. john bolton, the former u.n. ambassador, he kind of sums it up for us. >> this is like a slow motion train wreck watching this decision making process. it really is having a debilitating effect, i think, on troop morale in afghanistan and globally it's having a debilitating effect on america's reputation. it's not just the president's indecisiveness in afghanistan but his weakness and indecisiveness in other areas as well that gives the reputation that he's got a problem making hard decisions. steve: represents the right which, as we just heard a moment ago, general colin powell says don't listen to the right, don't listen to the left. remember, long-standing consequences. brian: the rest of the headlines. gretchen: the c.b.c. is expected to report today about 4,000 people have died of swine flu in the u.s. and millions more affected. drug companies are work round-the-clock to manufacture more doses of the h1n1 vaccine but they're behind on production because they say growing the virus needed for the shot takes more time than other flu strains. meantime, stanford researchers are trying to filling out why all flu vaccines only seem to work half the time. they say it appears success is linked to stress, environment, even her yesterdayity -- heredity. brian: americans who make more could soon face a hike in their payroll tax that go to medicare. that's if a plan being considered by harry reid is approved. it would affect people who make more than $250,000 a year. the measure would help pay for the health care legislation. he's expected to announce, we think, before christmas. steve: another federal agency may soon be asking for a bailout. this time it's a federal housing administrations. the loan agencies' reserve fund has been running low for some time now. and the agency will release an audit later this morning showing its full financial picture. if it is bleak enough, they will ask the treasury for help which means another bailout. gretchen: a mother accused of using her own children to steal, and it's all caught on camera. surveillance video shows the mom using her kids to shoplift. the family tries to leave. but when confronted by security a fight breaks out. police arrested the mom after the may lay. melee. brian: amina frye, also known as amina saunders is dieing great job of grooming her kids to bring up in the same lifestyle that she probably had. i think it's pathetic. gretchen: accused children are now in the care of children's services. steve: that's sad. mike tyson in trouble again with the law. brian, why don't you take this one. brian: very disappointed. but he's accused of slugging a papparazzo and knocking him to the ground. it looked like a scene out of "the hangover." >> ♪ i can feel it coming in the air tonight ♪ ♪ i've been waiting for this moment for all my life ♪ one more time, guys. >> ♪ oh lord brian: right. that's how it could have happened. evidently he felt like the camera guy was getting too close to him and his daughter. the camera guy thought he wasn't close enough. he ended up on the ground bleeding. they are suing each other. police say the photographer will be booked once he's released from the hospital. maybe mike tyson will pay off his bills. hockey is a game of raw emotion, even for the coaching staff, it turns out. watch this. the coach of the minor league team, louisiana ice skaters, he throws everything and anything off the bench to argue a call. look out, kids. watch your cups. he is also the general manager of the team. he has been suspended indefinitely. shocking new study about the dangers of cheerleading. it's no joke. the study by the national center for catastrophic sports injuries in high school says cheerleading accounts for 65% of catastrophic injuries to female athletes in high school. it cites more dangerous stunts and heightened competition. next most dangerous sport to girls, gymnastics and track. it's true. you feel like you're watching nadia and olga competing on the rings. steve: with no net and some guy catching you. gretchen: it's not just about pom-poms anymore. brian: what about just chanting defense on your own? steve: that's if you stay on the ground. nobody pay as tension unless you're going -- all right. a simple gesture that makes a world of difference for our veterans. wait until you hear what one woman is doing and has been doing and it's something you can do as well. gretchen: and the house took the first swing at a health care overhaul, passion its bill by just five votes. our fox news medical a-team is here to break down the best and the worst of the bill. brian: they have their smoks and capes. and now time for the "quote of the day." brian: friends@foxnews.com. be the first to win the right answer and win some fox stuff. gretchen: 46 minutes after the top of the hour. police have found an 11th body at the cleveland home of alleged serial killer anthony sowell. neighbors say the smell around the home gets worse as police keep digging. so will the convicted sex offender now facing a long list of charges including rape, murder and kidnapping. nasa says a 23-foot-wide asteroid almost hit earth last friday. get this. the big rock came within 9,000 miles of making impact and astronomers only noticed the asteroid 15 hours ahead of time. in space talk, 9,000 miles is close, guys. brian: i agree. steve: and no one can hear you scream. brian: far too often we hear negative stories in the news about the armed forces. today we have a heart warming tale from a viewer who recognizes just how much officers sacrifice and those enlisted men and women, to keep us safe. steve: she has decided to give back in a unique way. shelly joins us from columbia, south carolina. thanks for joining us today. >> thank you for having me. steve: it's a great -- people wonder if we read the e-mail here at "fox & friends." we absolutely do. and last week when we were on the u.s.s. new york you sent us this e-mail that says, "folks, this is something i do quite often. when i am out to dinner and i see a person in the military, police force or fire department -- finish the story. what do do you? -- what do you do? >> well, i ask the way troas bring me their check and i also ask that she keep it quiet as to who's paying for their dinner and i just buy their dinner and do it in a very quiet, subtle way. steve: that's great. brian: shelly, how much do you make a year, if you don't mind me asking? >> well, i bring about $20,000 a year. brian: so it's not like you're rolling in cash with you say, i'll pay this bill, i won't feel it. so you find a way to give back and say thanks but you don't want to be thanked. correct? >> not really because it's not about me. it's about the servicemen. steve: it is such a wonderful gesture. how long have you been doing this? >> actually, i've been doing it for four or five years. i'm not going out to dinner quite as often as i used to, but when i go out and i see somebody in the military or law enforcement, if it's not a room full of people, i'll try to pick up the tab for two or three people. steve: that's wonderful. this is news to brian, but brian and i are going to buy you supper. you're going out tonight on us. ok? >> ok. sounds great to me. brian: absolutely. i hope you like the grand slam. [laughing] steve: you've done something really nice down there in south carolina. she lives not far from the shaw air force base. thank you for telling your story. that's great. >> thank you very much for having me. i appreciate it. brian: and maybe if you follow shelly's lead, write us and tell me what it's like. steve: what else do do you to help our men and women in uniform? meanwhile, from uniforms to the haircut. brian: yup. the $400 air cut senator edwards got when he was running for president. now we know who ticked off the media about it. steve: and our medical a-team is on the scene, the house version of health care reform. that's straight ahead on "fox & friends" for this thursday. brian: looks so crowded. . ale nt thaveayci y t od tha nty wa branme faf aiz leh ii grnt faf aiz ked kalm leh ii eas sh dcaro,t faf aiz ep wutbyd oll ked kalm f f aiz faf aiz ep wutbyd oll ked brthme f f aiz gretchen: time to answer quote of the day. did you know this one? the answer is kellie pickler. she debuted it last night. johnson knew it from pennsylvania. congratulations. the health care bill barely passed in the house by a narrow five votes, not to mention a major political divide with just one lone republican voting in favor of it. so much for bipartisan support. what are the medical experts saying about the bill? our a team is here. good morning to all three of you. >> good morning. gretchen: all right. so you each examined this. no pun intended. you picked your best and worst things and gave that grade. dr. many, let me start with you. we are talking only about the house bill. >> i know it. gretchen: best thing. >> we are talking about reform and for sure if you look at anything about health care, it does need reform and it's good that at least a lot of uninsured people are getting insurance, at least in some of this version of the house is putting together. what i hate about it is that really, for me, as a woman's health specialist, there is not a lot of focus on women's health, which is a great priority in this nation because we have neglected it for a long time. second, there is no tort reform of any kind whatsoever. so, those, to me, are big ticket items that makes this whole bill very weak. >> your grade is? >> i gave it a d. i know i gave it a d. i'm going to change it this morning. no you didn't. >> i'm going to fail you. summer school stuff. they have got to go back. i'm going to give it an f. gretchen: he is harsher grader than i thought. >> things they are talking about in the senate upsetting me even more so read fox news.com story there. gretchen: has to do with taxes. >> this is going insurance companies from preventing or limiting coverage for patients with preexisting conditions which has been a major problem with our health insurance problem up to this point. gretchen: the worse? >> the worse despite the fact it will take a toll on middle class americans but all americans based on the penalties people will pay because of having to be forced to take insurance, based on 5.4% surcharge tax. based on the fact that small businesses are going to be taxed, there is nothing in this health reform bill that actually addresses the quality of care that americans are going to be receiving. major problem. gretchen: your problem is? >> d minus. gretchen: close to dr. manny. and i go to the final panelist about what dr. sum mattie's grade is going to be. >> being a doctor is a noble job. we went into medicine because you are come passionate about your patients. best care. this this gives access to millions of patients. i think that's a good thing. we want to go for prevention and take care of these patients to the best of our capability. the issue i have with this is that it may effect the quality of care. because if you are going to bring 50 million patients overnight, without adding more doctors, there will be a shortage of doctors. as a result there will be more waiting in the waiting rooms and delay for surgeries and medicine. i still think that the health care in this country remains the best in the world. we have the best research. we have the best technology. but i think if it's going to be another layer of bureaucracy, that's going to distance between the doctors and the patients. and then you hear terms like medical tourism. you don't want patients to leave this country and go to other countries that would be devastating. gretchen: your grade is. >> i'm kinder. i give them a b minus. i think there is still hopefully, like they would listen to doctors and the hospitals and do the right thing. gretchen: maybe they're watching rights now this wonderful a team panel we have compiled. you never know. >> f, d minus and b minus. gretchen: i got to go. i wouldn't want to be in any of your classrooms. he came face to face with the for the hood shooter. he grabbed gun and cuffed him. we are going to be talking to sergeant mark todd in 15 minutes. get ready to pull up the bar stool. norm from cheers is here. >> miracle of modern technology. >> i didn't know they made 8 track answering machines. gretchen: good morning, everyone. thursday, november 12th, 20009. thank you for sharing your time with us today. he has been in law enforcement for 25 years. he never once fired his gun until he found himself face to face with the accused for the hood shooter. >> i thank god that he missed me. i don't know how he missed me. as close as we were together, i checked like i don't have any holes in me i'm like ok, this is a good thing. gretchen: my goodness. we are going to talk to that sergeant mark todd live in 10 minutes. brian: back to the drawing board for the president's national security team. the president rejecting all four options reportedly for the war in afghanistan. what will the administration do now? steve: you know what? we have all seen brian wear his guy liner, carry a man bag, but will brian ever wear or suggest any his friends put on a man engagement ring? it's the newest trend and we are going to tell you about it in less than 10 minutes. meantime our slogan comes from cooper smithson in south carolina. i turn on the tv and i would rather watch car tunes but my mom says no, no, no, we have to watch fox news. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- steve: we're taking shelly rhodes to the outback steak house. we found they have a big party room and we are going to take her out along with some of her friends. gretchen: nice gesture. thank you for all she has done for the troops as well. speaking of the troops, let's talk about the latest developments out at fort hood and major hasan. apparently now there were a group of doctors who were worried that hasan was, quote, psychotic and even more important in this report they were worried that he was capable of killing american soldiers somehow that information may not have got ton anyone else to ho decided to promote him as recently as last summer to major and ship him off to fort hood or did they know that and is that why, in fact, they shipped him off to fort hood. brian: officials at walter reed discussed for a year whether he was psychotic and fit to be a shrink. other key officers say he seems to be aloof, disconnected, paranoid, belligerent and skits so wide. were there warning signs? i think we just named nine. we have been talking over the last couple of days how people didn't connect the dots. remember, we learned that apparently one of those joint terrorism task force, they knew that this guy had been in communication with this radicalizer imam over in yemen with ties to al qaeda. then we hear that his supervisors, these doctors at be these that ada thought this guy is unstable. he could go crazy. he could shoot people. like that officer did back in 2003 in kuwait. so what do they do? they said even though he is aked me okay student and lazy worker, the consensus was let's send him to fort hood. it's hard to fire a doctor because it can be will he litigious and cumbersome. brian: you invest a lot of moch and schooling. gretchen: they paid for 10 years of education. not only a doctor but specialist in psychiatry. steve: let's send him to fort hood. also, if he can't handle the work load, there will be others there to pick up the pace. and, if he does cause any problems, there will be supervisors to essentially document and create a paper trail that the guy is a troublemaker. as it turns out, that was a little too late. gretchen: let's face facts here it's because he was a muslim they felt like they could not fire him because it would be deemed as discriminatory. they decided to provide some kind of cover for him which was to send him to fort hood. we can think of this in other professions. teachers that probably happens to or catholic priests to a certain extent have been provided cover from time to time. in this case it's especially disarming because of what happened. this psychotic label that the doctors gave him is going to be the perfect defense for major hasan. his lawyer is eating this up right now. the idea that that word psychotic came out of there? that's going to be the defense. brian: the case is going to be the case. some eyewitnesses and so hard if they are going to do a military tribunal to execute somebody. we haven't done it sips 1935. each if he gets the death penalty. the judge will be out here shortly. now they are starting to look at some the emails sent to this cleric. instead of benign emails. now they are looking at content. he seems to be seeking moral compass. he seems to be looking for approach. seems to be wrestling with next step. evidently one of the emails back from this imam who seems to have disappeared in yemen. have a choice. either become a martyr there or come join me in the jihad over in yemen. steve: apparently, it did sound the return email from radicalizer was rather benign because he doesn't know this guy. he was as if maybe this is a trap or something like that. so he really didn't go too far out on a limb. also a brand new was muffin poll out that says 60% of you say this should be pursued as terroristic act. only 27% want it investigated by civilian court as authorities proceed criminal act. 13% say not sure whether should remove any officers or duty people like hasan who attempt to contact radical terrorist organizations. three quarters of the country say get out of military. gretchen: no kidding. there were two hero cops who on that day were there and they knew what to do. even though one of them had never fired a gun for 25 years being a police officer. first, left's go to mighty mouse as she is known. >> do you remember the whole thing? the whole incident? >> i never lost consciousness. and i refused to -- i wanted to stay awake and know everything that was going on and control my breathing to make sure i was not going to fall into shock and wanted to know everything that was going on because it was pretty chaotic. >> is it true this was the first time you had ever had to use your weapon. i read that some place. >> yes, it is. 25 years of law enforcement and prior military, i have been fortunate not to have to pull my weapon before. once it happened, i relied on my training i'm like ok, this is happening. have you been trained to do this, react. brian: sergeant todd will be joining us shortly next and sergeant munley took three shots, both legs and through her hand. she has had a number of surgeries already, been in a lot of pain. she felt like the muscle was being pulled out of her body. steve: she would like to get back to work as quickly as possible but it's going to take a little while to recover. time for headlines. gretchen: president obama kicks off a week long trip to the far east today. first visit since becoming president. the president set to meet with leaders on the region trade. global warming, and human rights. a decision on troop levels in afghanistan now not expected until president obama gets back to the u.s. president obama is scheduled to head to south carolina as part of that trip. the south now dealing with more harsh warnings from the communist north. pyongyang says north korea will pay expensive price for firing at patrol boat. tensions are high after the countries got into a squirm militia at sea two days ago. the g.o.p. star is headed to new hampshire next month to be keynote speaker at a republican fundraiser. new hampshire the site of the first presidential primary. many say while there pawlenty will announce a bid for the 2012 race. last month pawlenty spoke at republican event in iowa where the first caucus is held. former vice presidential candidate sarah palin is hitting the road on her going road tour. on to suburban indianapolis and for the brag, north carolina. her book comes out this tuesday. that's the headlines. brian: two people love each other. they decide to get engaged. and the clock begins to particular -- to tick. what does the man get? gretchen: the bill. steve: they have gotten diddly so far. 55% of you would consider this to be a bad idea. the mangagement ring. 45% of you think it's a good -- this is one of the examples of the he-man style man-engagement rings. wear a ring on finger like you are taken. brian: gradually going off the market. steve: you are off the market right then. gretchen: this is a fantastic idea as long as you don't take away woman's engagement ring. i'm all for rights. a lot of guys don't like to wear wedding rings. brian: if you give me something cobalt or steel. steve: what about that one right there. >> i don't know what that means. that wouldn't mean anything to me. hard enough being a guy. now you have to worry about a mad -- what do we call it? steve: mangagement. brian: spring a ring on a woman and wonder if she is going to spring a ring on you. gretchen: so what? listen, relationships are all about little surprises, weren't they? wouldn't you love to get a nice surprise like a piece of jewelry? could this be the beginning of taking the initiative away from the male? steve: whole idea is to signify that guy sen gauged to somebody. you know, back off. brian: signal to the population say he's mine. steve: i'm going to get married to my girlfriend. gretchen: that's important point there why not? if a guy wants to wear a ring and say he is taken, fabulous. steve: email us now. do you think the mangagement is a good idea? >> brian: neil armstrong did not make the cut. steve: woman's car speeds out of a parking lot out of control. this is where she wound up right on the edge of 200-foot cliff. daring rescue coming up next. those guys are heroes this morning. brian: fox news alert now we have got to tell you about. the parents of the balloon boy expected to plead guilty tomorrow in a courtroom in denver. richard and his wife will attempt to attempting to influence a public servant which is a felony and making false reports to authorities which is a misdemeanor. richard is facing up to 90 days in jail and his wife is facing 60 days with probation. steve? gretchen? steve: we have all heard of the heroic efforts of sergeant munley during the tragic attack on fort hood last week. gretchen: there is another hero to acknowledge mark todd who also put an end to the attack. good morning to you, sergeant. >> good morning. gretchen: so we happen to see a clip of an interview that you did yesterday. and you said the most amazing thing that when this all went down, you looked at yourself afterwards and you were stunned that there were no holes anywhere in your body. >> yes, ma'am. by by the grace of god that i wasn't injured during this event. steve: sergeant, tell us where you were when you got the call. i know it only took you a couple minutes to get there then what happened? what did you see? >> just a routine day. then we got the calls of shots fired and here on fort hood we have numerous memorial services and i honestly just thought it was soldiers practicing the 21 gun salute and a bystander maybe had mistaken that for actual gunfire. as we approached the scene, our dispatcher radioed that she actually heard gunfire in the background and as we got interest, the bystanders were pointing in the direction of the individual. as we approached the crest of the hill. i went to the left and officer munley went to the right. that's where we encountered the individual and he opened fire on us. and then later on he moved to a different location. gretchen: did he shoot at sergeant munley first then and then that's when you shot him? >> well, initially as we approached the scene, we were together and he opened fire kind of both of us in our direction. and at that point we took cover. we separated. and then when i -- the next time i seen him, i drew his attention from the crowd and he opened fire on me a second time. and then that's when we neutralized him, secured him. all the other heroes, the true heroes, the medics that came and started life-saving measures on all the wounded. steve: senior sergeant, at a press conference yesterday, lt. colonel john rossi refused to take questions about who shot major hasan first or why initial reports said it had been sergeant munley. are you under the impression that you may have shot hasan first? >> at this point, this is still under investigation and i can't comment on that. steve: think know they are awaiting the outcome of ballistic tests but are you under the impression that you wer the first one to hit him? >> once again, sir, i can't comment on that. steve: i understand. gretchen: let me ask you this, sergeant. what i found amazing was after 22 or 25 years serving in the army and then as a police officer, had you never fired a weapon before i mean a situation like this? >> fortunately, i have been extremely lucky that i have been in a situation at this magnitude lucky that way i guess. >> yes. we train every day. gretchen: was it like a bike kick in what to could. >> like muscle memory. we train for events like this. just like another -- i wouldn't say like another training scenario. through our training we knew how to react. steve: and you did when it counted most. senior sergeant mark todd joining us today from just outside the gate at fort hood. thank you, sir, for your duty and your service and joining us live on this thursday. thank you. >> thank you. gretchen: back to the drawing board for the president, apparently. this is breaking news this morning. he is going back to the drawing board with his national security team. president obama has rejected all four recommended strategies in afghanistan. now what? steve: and beer has been very good to this man. george went, also known as norm from cheers. he is going to be here to tell us how to get the ultimate beer drinking experience. i know it's early but the story is great straight ahead on "fox & friends." ♪ wouldn't you like to get away. gretchen: that's the uss new york, i believe, on its way back down norfolk, virginia. steve: so long, folks. ♪ check is in the mail ♪ and your little angel ♪ hung the cat up by its tail brian: welcome back. glad you are up. associated press reporting that president obama met with his national security team and rejected all four options on afghanistan. and with president obama's nine-day trip to asia looming, his decision will be postponed even further. why is the delay and the indecision putting our troops in harm's way or is it? joining us now lt. james danley. managing director for the study of war which produced the documentary. assistant professor of georgetown university christine fair -- do you believe it will have the same success? >> good morning. it's different to apply the template directly. we know from our study of counter insurgency every situation is unique. it can't be applied exactly. we know from our surge in iraq i know it will be helpful to follow a similar path in afghanistan. brian: christine, we are not pulling out. the president made that clear. how should we move forward? >> i'm actually in favor of perhaps a hybrid plan. you know, we tend to focus upon the troop discussion, scaling them up, scaling them down. that's really the only metric we have control over. what you see coming out of the white house as well as in the mcchrystal plan and even the embassy in kabul is we are really beginning to understand it's the corruption in the afghan government that's a limiter. even as something as basic and elementary as our training of the afghan police those efforts are completely underpined by the corruption in kabul. we can't get away from this corruption issue and we have very little leverage over karzai. in many ways that will determine the outcome. the logic that we have to win in afghanistan to stabilize pakistan exactly investors our national security interests. pakistan is far more scary and represents far more security threats than afghanistan ever could gretchen. brian: they are actually the same people go back and forth. >> they are not the same people. brian: lt. . >> that's actually not the case entirely. much of the insurgency that you see in afghanistan is, in fact, a local insurgency. they are the local people who are fighting for purposes transnational terrorist networks. there is movement between the borders. especially in the south. and that movement does occur. although there are ethnic ties that connect the people of afghanistan and pakistan, they are not entirely the same group of people. brian: two major war lords as well as the taliban fighting against the karzai government. at this hour we know one thing for certain, we are in a delay of game. christine, is that good news for anybody? >> i'm not sure it's bad news either. before we rush to send in 40,000 troops, what are the effects they can achieve in the context of the corruption. i want to go back to the point the afghan taliban are not the same as the pakistan taliban. because we need pakistan so extensively to basically provide the logistical support to the war in afghanistan, we are actually very much restricted in our ability to put pressure on pakistan, which, by the way, supports the afghan taliban directly. brian: but for seven years they have been training in pakistan and moving forward into afghanistan. >> but they enjoy support -- brian: effect on the operation? >> every moment that goes by, we're less able to operations handed down as mandate by the commander and chief. important to mention although there is not as much cross border movement as people might think. of the taliban does operate in both areas and network supports insurgent and terrorist operations across the borders. brian: we might be able to flip. thank you very much. meanwhile, straight ahead, 12 children severed fingers on very popular stroller. you won't believ how long the company knew about the error before admitting the major mistake. a panel in texas is deciding what key figure should be taught in classes. kindergarten to high school. two people you are looking at. oprah winfrey or mother theresa who do you think your children will learn about? 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[ laughter ] brian: conan ripped from the headlines. that was headlines yesterday as president clinton decided to go and have lunch with the senators on capitol hill. gretchen: try to urge them along to pass health care reform. something else on the other side of the ticket was john edwards $400 hair cut. one of the defining moments in the campaign for his presidency before all that other stuff came out about him. guess who tipped off the media about the fact that the $400 was actually paid for a hair cut? steve: it reminds us all about that remember that youtube video of john edwards fiddling with his hair? anyway, it turns out there he is right there before a live shot. brian: those were the good old days. steve: the leak about the $400 hair cut came from barack obama's campaign team research people. and even though obama at one point as a candidate was asked why do you have opposition researchers he said to examine high minded policy questions. and, yet, in the end, it turns out the people simply dished the dirt on somebody who eventually was squeezed out. brian: devastating. because he was trying to be the man of the people self-made millionaire and when people saw $400 hair cut he cannot be a mill worker. he cannot be like us. meanwhile, eliot spitzer is going to be busy today because he has got an appointment. he had an invitation and he accepted it he is going to be going and addressing a group that focuses on ethics. client number 9 has been called into harvard where his daughter goes to school. gretchen: i think the head lynn of this story is that the madam who he did business with when he got busted for that prostitution ring, she apparently wrote a letter to harvard university saying, wait a minute, i'm not so sure eliot spitzer would be the best person to come and speak about ethics. she received a response back is he not going to speak about ethics it's actually about institutional corruption. one in the same, maybe. steve: he would know about both. brian: wall street and the role of the federal government. steve: meanwhile, let's take a look about this. there is a girl who sneezes 12,000 times a day. there she is right there. >> would you say it's been pretty miserable. >> yes, it's been miserable. doctors are absolutely baffled why this girl sneezes all the time. we will have 12-year-old lauren johnson on our show tomorrow to see if she can figure out why she simply cannot stop sneezing. gretchen: remember the girl who couldn't stop hiccupping either and they tried everything. i think they were going to do surgery and i don't remember whether or not she was cured or not. this is a dreadful story for that child. steve: that's going to be on tomorrow's show. meanwhile, take a look at the headlines on this thursday. we start with a fox news alert. you are looking at new video of secretary of state hillary clinton in the philippines this morning. she is supporting -- showing support for the country's fight against muslim extremists. secretary clinton also delivering a message to the government in afghanistan. >> it has to do more to respond to the legitimate needs of the people of afghanistan, to deliver services, not just security but education and health. the kinds of services that the people of any country should expect from their government. steve: secretary clinton scheduled to meet with the president of the philippines later on today. gretchen: mcclarion reportedly knew strollers could chop off kids' fingers but did nothing for five years. the "new york post" reporting that mcclaren only acted after it was forced to arab recall. companies have to november consumer products safety commission as soon as they learn about a problem. in the past decade fingers of 12 kids have been severed by the stroller's hinges. brian: home foreclosures dropping. 11,000 fewer notices going out. up overall from a year ago. rose 1.5% from a year ago. people buying more of everything from toys to food and just this morning wal-mart says its third quarter profits rose more than 3%. steve: live pictures coming out this morning from hampton, virginia right now where floodwaters are waist deep. governor is declaring a state of emergency. depression and big rainmaker by the time it wound up in the commonwealth of virginia. the state could get could get 3 to 8 more inches of he. are now in effect. gretchen: a pennsylvania woman is lucky to be alive after nearly plunging her car over the side of a 200-foot cliff. police say the axle remember rarity of her car got stuck surged through a parking lot and through a guardrail. if it wasn't for a tree stump stopping her car she would have gone over the hillside. >> it was being restrained just by a couple of trees, it was in payroll of going over 150, 200 foothill side. the woman was safely removed from the car. witnesses say it is a miracle she was not seriously injured. no doubt. steve: brian, have you cool video of a team that's near and dear to my heart. brian: final seconds, steve, final footage of big hit on youtube. it's a big hit for all the wrong reasons listen audio after richmond's andrew howard misses a field goal to win the game. >> right here. comes down, heads left, what a bomb. come on end this [bleep] game. first time this year. brian: turns out the guilty party was an unnamed comcast production assistant. he has since been relieved of his p.a. duties. now over to tokyo, you are looking at a goff mat made into a bra. smooth out swing to be successful. there you go. gretchen: it has nothing to do with whether or not you shoot par. brian: you never know. steve: thank you to the japanese. and thank you, brian kilmeade. steve: meanwhile an education panel down in texas is deciding who is in and who is out of school textbooks regarding social studies down in the lone star state. after the first draft of picks last spring, presidents like george washington and ronald reagan didn't make the cut. what? some members of the panel fought to make sure the first and 40th presidents of the united states make it into the curriculum. so who else made the second cut and who will be cut? and has to fight for a place in history? joining us right now is tucker carlson, senior fellow at the cato institute and fox news contributor. good morning to you, tucker. >> good morning, steve. yes, minor figures like albert einstein gone. no longer in here. marie. mother theresa gone. paul revere gone. jonah silk gone. colin powell, florence nighten gail. replaced by, drum roll, please, oprah winfrey. kids wouldn't know oprah winfrey existed unless they learned about it in school. oprah winfrey is an obscure figure whose memory knee to be kept alive by american school teachers. steve: this is jaw-dropping, tucker, to think they would drop madam curie, also on the list, neil armstrong, they are talking about taking him off the list. >> yes. steve: talking about taking colin powell off the list, karl sayingen off the list. they are interestingly talking about putting on some technology people like steve jobs, the guy behind apple computer and michael del. >> michael del. steve: who became a billionaire for building computers down in texas. >> sure. you have got a mail order computer business, that's great. but joanal silk who cured polio and saved hundreds of millions of children from death or disfiguring illness is off the list. chavez is also on the list. steve: what's scary about this idea where you take major figures from history and you take them out of the textbooks, you know, the way we are going right now the only wave kids will find out about people like neil armstrong if this textbook is adopted or madam curie or mother theresa is watching jeopardy. >> that's exactly right or from their parents. if you want your children to understand american or world history tell them with it yourself. there is no guarantee they will learn about it in school. they will learn about oprah though and that's important. steve: what about maury povich? >> i like maury povich but, you know, i'm not sure you need a class to learn about maury povich. nice guy. steve: tucker, when will we find out who makes the list. >> very soon. next week a final vote on this. we don't know what that will result in. some of these choices are so obviously embarrassing that you have got to think a leadership little sunlight may change the minds of the officials in charge of this. as it stands no more paul revere but oprah. steve: crazy they might not have the first man who walked on the moon on there. tucker carlson, thanks so much for joining us from d.c. speaking of washington, d.c., anita dunn is now done at the white house as communications director after lashing out at fox news. but was it really a surprise move? michelle malkin weighs in at the top of the hour. bellying up to the bar with norm from cheers. george wendt is here to give advice on beer. george, you should wait until at least 8:00 a.m., ok? [ laughter ] right back. i don't think you can live the american lifestyle without energy. we have all this energy here in the u.s. we have wind. we have solar, obviously. we have lots of oil. i think natural gas is part of the energy mix of the future. i think we have the can-do. we have the capability. we have the technology. the solutions are here. we just need to find them here. >> the most wonderful thing thoond me on the way over here. >> what is that? >> i was in a car accident. >> oh, yeah, nothing like a little broken glass and twisted metal to put that spring back in your step. gretchen: it was the bar everybody knows your name. norm spent 11 years sitting on that stool. brian: during that time playing that character norm george wendt picked up a few tips on how to get the ultimate beer experience. new book is "drinking with george." welcome back. you have been on our show before but first time on our couch. welcome back to "fox & friends." >> thank you. brian: it's about time this book was done. why is now the perfect time for america to embrace this book. >> beer has been very good to me over the years. i thought it was time to give something back. and i wrote the book for the children of america. you know, it needs to be in every classroom in america. you don't want these kids learning how to shotgun a beer on the streets. from their peers? no. steve: as long as it doesn't have neil armstrong in it the book will be fine. speaking of children, you started -- your love affair with beer started as a young man, grandpa's budweiser. >> he sent me to the kitchen to open the can of beer and bring it to him. my reward was a sip. i thought it was great. steve: how old were you? [ laughter ] >> i don't know, 7 or 8. motor skills. you would have to check your child development guides. gretchen: that's the thing didn't work with me. i never got the taste for the beer. buff maybe you can convert me. i don't know. but your favorite beer -- here is what i love about you. you loved beer, of the character you were playing on cheers was a true to form guy. you can't even pick one favorite kind of beer. you like logger, stout and pilzner. >> aels as well. my favorites if i had to mention my favorites it would be free and free light. steve: and cold. brian: captain and teneil says love will bring people together beer brings people together. scientifically you can break that down. >> i break down the science of beer goggles. beer makes people like 25% more attractive. gretchen: only 25? steve: i think there is a list of how many different ways you can say that you have had too many. >> the 1111 ways to say you are drunk. my favorite is legless. brian: hi, i'm legless. ways to prevent a hangover. >> i have found the 3 a.m. sausage pizza. brian: have the meat? >> the meat, the fat, the cheese, the carbohydrates. it's all science. steve: that sounds delicious. brian: do you something else to get a seat at the bar. these guys go out clubbing a lot. i don't because of the crowds. george, how do you get to the front of the line in -- very close to the bar tender yet you arrive late to that bar. how do you make your way through the crowd? >> lots of times if there is nowhere to sit, i'm not above playing the old card. i just said after a while my back will start to burn from just standing around for five or ten minutes. i just find something healthy looking young man and go, dude, i got to sit. is that ok? look, my back is killing me. oh, of course, of course. i feel like, you know. old lady on the bus or something. gretchen: is that truly the back or the old card or because people know who you are? >> i think a bit of both. >> probably. brian: you wrote this for the people. thank you, you are a great american. steve: it is a funny book. drinking with george, a bar stool professional guide to beer. a pleasure. brian: drink up. four to go and one hour of show. straight ahead, he was emailing with al qaeda. suspected of being psychotic and purchased a gun, and still, nothing done. our next guest says it's all because of the first amendment rights. peter johnson jr. here next. gretchen: today is november 12th, 2009. on this day in history, yousef was convicted of the worst world trade center attack in 1993. 2001 american airlines bus crashed shortly after takeoff from kennedy's airport killing 265. i hope this one is going to be good news. in 1975 elton john had the number one hit island girl. brian: i will drink to that not on camera. ♪ island girl . . . xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx gretchen: weaker continuing to learn more information about major nidal hasan and his alleged terror ties. questions also remain about why he was not questioned further before the attacks. some say political correctness prevented officials from taking further action. peter johnson is with us. we are all aware of the fact we ç$ave first amendment rights, t do you believe people over emphasized first amendment right here in not calling attention concerns about major nidal hasan? >> i think itç is an overemphas on the excuse. we are hearing now that investigators, in the cause of being politically correct somehow backed off. that is inappropriate, incorrect. the first amendment does not shield terrorism, the pursuit of terrorism, or communications need to further terrorist acts. what we have seen, in terms of the pattern, the fbi did not tell the defense department what was going on, the defense department did not tell the fbi what was going on, and now we find out that he was sent to university lectures in the middle east on lectures dealing -- dealing with terrorism. now we have this diary of the excuse being issued by the army, that he was delusional and psychotic, so delusional and psychotic, we sent him to a university lectures. gretchen: now that he has been labeled psychotic, will that give his defense team material? >> i think we need to be truthful and honest and call this the 11/5 massacre. there is a unanimity of interest between the government trying to make excuses for what it did and did not do in regard to preventing this attack, and the majorç hasan's defense. it is easy to say now that he was delusional and paranoid nut the contemporaneous statements made by investigators, that these communication with known 9/11 hijackers were innocuous, morley-based -- can you imagine writing, as a major in the army,ç 2 9/11 hijackers, and tt is seen as an innocuous message? gretchen: it is one of the many questions facing officials. always great to see you. at least 11 pilot are busted every year for flying drunk. what is being done from keeping this from happening? anita dunn, she was the white house communications director, but is she still all around? -- still around? gretchen: good morning. thank you for sharing your time with us. one of the fort hood heroes who helped to take down the shooter says he is not a hero. >> i drew his attention from the crowd and he drew fire on me. that is when we neutralized him. gretchen: more from mark todd about being in the line of fire. steve: meanwhile, the needed done -- anita dunn may no longer be the white house communications director, so what is she doing now? michelle malkin will have that. brian: kanye west taking a lot of thheat last night from the ct awards. >> this is george foreman. you are watching "fox and friends." gretchen: new video of the uss new york leaving the city she was named after. the ship is now heading back to her home port in norfolk, virginia. this is live picture. the parents of the so-called blue and black are expecting to plead guilty to staging that entire incident. richard and mayumi henne faces charges of deceiving and then special -- an official. we will keep you posted on that story. the cdcç has reported 4000 peoe have died from the swine flu in the u. s. the agency had direction -- the originally estimated about 1000 deaths. manufacturers are behind in developing the vaccine because they say it is taking more time. ça u.s. airline's pilot pulled from the cockpit because he had too much to drink, as the report shows each year an average of 11 commercial pilot test positive for alcohol before getting behind the controls. the pilot convicted told us what needs to be changed. >> it would be a shame to ban them for life, especially if they are seeking treatment. in light man is the key here. the more we know about it, crewmembers know, plant attendants, then they are able to identify policy violation. gretchen: that story that we were talking about, the crew noticed that something was wrong. steve: about one hour ago, mark todd joined us. he was one of the first two responders after word came out that there was a shooter at portland. he describes how he helped take down nidal hasan. >> i drew attention away from the ground, that is when he drew fire on me for a second time. then the true heroes come out the next, came and started live- saving measures on the wounded. brian: he kicks the gun away, handcuffed him, and then saved his life. gretchen: michelle malkin is with us from colorado springs. i was looking at our twitter account, and you are joining us without coffee? >> yes, it is pretty dangerous. gretchen: what is your take on this story? >> there were incredible acts of bravery, and we expect nothing less from our men and women in uniform. i think it behooves their military commanders to make sure they are doing everything they can to ensure the safety of soldiers and other personnel in uniform and on bases across the country. if anything, this case is showing we need to do better. steve: in particular, the breaking news this morning that in 2008, and walter v., a bunch of his supervisors got together to assess his progress. essentially, they said that he could be capable of killing american soldiers, could be psychotic -- let's send him to fort hood. the problem is, it is hard to fire a doctor because thereç ia lot of paperwork, and nobody wants to be labeled a big hit, particularly because he was muslim. >> i think it was a combination of bureaucracy and political correctness. fears of being labeled a big it has been with us for a long time. this predates the obama administration. many of us saw this in the bush administration as well. as tough as they were in çprosecuting the war on terror, even some of that pc mine said, tiptoeing around sharia law, around the roots of jihad law that these people subscribe to, it has just calcified over the years. also, unfortunately, many of these fine doctors made the mistake of diagnosing this as a psychological condition. gretchen: they just handed his defense attorney their defense. >> yes, and we have seen this with many of these kinds of people. john allen muhammad. the shooter at the jewish center. the tar heel terrorist in north carolina. they have invoked the insanity defense, and it just also happens to be part of the al qaeda playbook. brian: what i also think is important is how our intelligence bureaus did not act together. in many ways, the joint terrorist task force worked, but there was no point of operation. no point where they said we need to move against this guy. they were sharing information but there was no plan of action. >> that is the most important point. there was a failure to communicate. in fact, there was not. there was a failure to act and a failure to comprehend what was going on. we saw this even in president obama's remarks, which were inspiring at fort hood, but what really graded on my nerves was that this must incomprehensible. what was so hard to understand? steve: let's switch gears to someone you have talked about on your web site. that is the soon-to-be former director of communications anita dunn. she has taken specific shots at fox news channel, but also in a commencement address, talk about someone she really enjoyed. >> the third lesson comes from two of my favorite political operatives, mao tse-tung and the mother to reset. not often coupled with each other -- but the people i turn to most. >> the reality is, fox news operates as the research arm or communication arm of the republican party. let's not pretend they are in news network, the way cnn is. gretchen: news came that she was going to step down from her post, but you say she is not going away? >> that is right, she is not being thrown under the bus, just changing seats. shçthat happens to a lot of the people. she said she did not want this to be a permanent position for her. she has a teenage son that she has to pay attention to. she has been very influential in the administration, as well as her husband, and apparently now she is up for gregç craig's former job of legal counsel. brian: and health care reform is going to cost over a trillion dollars, but don't worry, harry reid has a plan to pay for it. can you say raising taxes? gretchen: and it was a history- making night for taylor swift. it was clear the country world had her back, and what they have to say about kanye when they are on their own turf. ale nt thaveayci y t od tha nty wa branme faf aiz leh ii grnt faf aiz ked kalm leh ii eas sh dcaro,t faf aiz ep wutbyd oll ked kalm f f aiz faf aiz ep wutbyd oll ked brthme f f aiz steve: we continue our conversation. michelle malkin is with us from the rocky mountains. in the house, they have been talking about paying for this health care reform, perhaps to put a tax on america's most successful people. now harry reid is thinking about a payroll tax that could impact people across the board. what do you think about that? >>ç this would be on top of the other taxes and fees they need to pay for this monstrosity. it raises the question, where is the plan? çwe still do not have the it. the heritage foundation has called this the vapor bill. what he is doing is trying to pacify the far left and unions who are unhappy that there are existing taxes on cadillac plans, so he is trying to balance the out. meanwhile, it will be the next generation who is paying the bill for this. brian: the other side of this is he is closer than any other president has been to get health care passed. and he is now in a situation in the senate where they have the majority. they may not have the 60 votes, but they are close. >> a couple weeks ago he said he would not be pushed into any time line from the white house, but as with everything he says, harry reid has capitulated and it looks like we are set for next tuesday. they have still not ruled out using procedural trickery, including using the procedural process. they have been turning to do that all year. gretchen: they also brought in president clinton in the past few days, no doubt, to try to assuage the concerns of conservative democrats. there is a woman from arkansas who is a conservative democrat who has not been on board with this health care reform. do you think president clinton was able to sway the minds of those democrats and get the job çdone? >> the democrats need to look at history and see if it was the overreaching that killedk democrats' hopes back then. those of us on the conservative side can simply sit back and say, yes, follow bill clinton's lead, please. steve: he also said it does not really matter what you pass, just get something passed. >> if they want to go after legacy, they can certainly try that tact, but this bill will doom them. steve: thank you. gretchen: some of the people against health care reform were some of the people taking part in the deportees. we will speak to a co-chair about what they are doing next. brian: and the governor of new york spends thousands of dollars on prostitutes and then resigned. now the eliot spitzer is going to deliver a speech on ethics at harvard.  brian: a secret service limousine and s.u.v. just used by joe biden hit andç killed in maryland banned yesterday. it had been near andrews air force base as the vehicles were being returned. the vice-president was not in either vehicle. nothing new for john junior gotti. the liberation are under way in his racketeering trial. -- deliberations are under way in his racketeering trial. gretchen: the second national tea party express tour has covered over 7,000 miles and 70 cities. steve: it has seen major grass- roots support and downs of people protesting the big government. joining me is the president of the tea parties. good morning, marc. >> i have the the bags to show the 40 cities. steve: ideologically, politically, who was shot went up from city to city? >was it republicans, democrats, independents? >> it was everyone. people are feeling, number one, that both parties have been hijacked by professionals who do not represent the interests of the constituencies. some people are bolting the parties, but now something different is happening. there are a lot of different groups out there coming up with creative ways to take back the government and these parties. that vote on saturday gave them a list of 200 politicians to throw out this coming november. gretchen: one interesting thing you said about this tour was that it was different because you focused on small towns and america, right? >> that is right. we wanted to go to places where we were asked to come -- we had hundreds ofç requests, but we have to narrow it down to 40. we wanted to focus on small town america, those areas that are usually forgotten by the decision makers in washington. steve: you just mentioned the vote in the house on health care. what about the statehouses in the commonwealth of virginia and new jersey returning from democrat to republican control? what did that do for the party people? >> thatç revved them up like yu would not believed. that energized these people. this was a groundswell of public opinion that changed those races. i think that arrogance of folks in control in washington, arrogance from the white house, will only make that more intense. gretchen: the interesting thing is the 2010 elections are totally unpredictable. thank you, mark williams. steve: brian kilmeade is in the green room. brian: national unemployment is at 10.2%. will we see any change this week? and back to the drawing board. president obama rejecting options for a new strategy and afghanistan. and iron mike back in the police cruiser. did he do it for the wrong reason? and country music stars have their night at the cma's. what's our favorite part of honey bunches of oats? the sparkly flakes. the honey-baked bunches! the magic's in the mix. my favorite part? eating it. honey bunches of oats. taste the joy we put in every spoonful. we call the bunches in honey bunches of oats the prize in the box. well, now there's a prize inside the prize. pecans! pecans! baked into crunchy oat bunches. taste the delicious surprise in every spoonful. new honey bunches of oats with pecan bunches. beautiful. gretchen: last night we had the honor of being at this boy's got dinner where our own boss, roger ailes, was given the good scope award. there youç see just a few of or friends. what an honor for us to be there. congratulations to mr. ailes. brian: your family was there at another event? >> my family was representing me. anyway, roger is an inspiring worked for for many years. here is a 30-second sound bite with our boss. >> every generation gets the call to challenge. this generation will as well. i am heartened to know that what know is that some day, they will meet the courage, resilience, and dedication of these young americans we are so broke up, and they will keep america free. thank you. brian: it was a great speech. when i found intriguing was the kids. they had to really run the stage for a while. they had a keynote speaker, the and the things off. gretchen: and their keynote speaker had some great comedic blind. >> -- comedic lines. >> we help by going to the soup kitchens, helping poor people. >> it is great because they help us with everything. brian: kids from all neighborhoods and all communities now have a chance. it is not about whether or not you can write a check the code is called the scout reach plan. congratulations to our boss. gretchen: back to the drawing board. back to the drawing board. that is apparently what president obama is telling his national security team as they reject all the options for afghanistan. why does the president want to start from scratch? >> it seems he does not like the option to in front of him. the president is expected to make a statement on the economy. unemployment numbers are expected to be released, and then he goes to his first trip to the far east. he did grow up in the area, so it is not unfamiliar territory. the bill make a stop in alaska first to greet some troops. he will then travel to china and south korea. weighing on the president's mind on this trip is depending troop levels in afghanistan. çat the eighth meeting with his national security team, the president took a look at the options presented to him and askedç how and when the u.s. would turn over responsibility to the afghan government. administration officials say they want to make it clear this is not an open-ended commitment to keep so many troops in afghanistan indefinitely. the president and also set to be concerned about the newly elected hamid karzai and his commitment to root out corruption, even within his own government. mr. obama wants to see more evidence that this will improve before he commits more troops. this follows a report that the u.s. ambassador in afghanistan said he had concerned about sending more troops before the afghan government can clean up its act. steve: thank you. she just mentioned the ambassador. you are about to hear from the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations. he has his perspective on what the president should do. in the meantime, let's listen to a snippet from the tom joyner show colin powell had some the political advice for the president. >> this is difficult for him. this i brian: is funny. çthe generals in the region say time is of the essence. we are already there, so the men and women are at additional risk. çthe taliban feels more emboldened then ever as we herd them celebrating over the attacks at fort hood. gretchen: when you hear this could be a political decision, that is fascinating. also, you would think that you would listen to the people that you have on the ground. you have to remember the general mcchrystal endorsed president obama, so maybe he does not want to say anything critical about him right now. steve: john bolton is not afraid to be critical of the process and he says it has taken too much time. >> this is like a slow-motion train wreck watching this decision making process. it is having a debilitating effect on troop morale in afghanistan, and globally, it is having a debilitating affect on the image of the u.s. this indecisiveness is giving him the vacation that he has a problem making hard decisions. gretchen: there you have it. brian: we will find out. admiral mullen, secretary gates, and secretary clinton all seem to be for secretary gateth. gretchen: in 45ç minutes, president obama will make a brief statement from the white house on job creation and job growth. steve: still, half a million people. the man who killed and arkansas tv anger could get the death penalty. curtis vanceç guilty of capital murder, rape, and burglary. anne pressley was found beaten so badly she never regained consciousness. brian: he was involved in a high price constitution scandal but today eliot spitzer there is talking to harvard students about ethics and more. now some are outraged. one professor who is hosting it consists he is not there to talk about ethics but whether to talk about a series on the institution of the corruption. gretchen: unfortunately, mike tyson is in trouble with the law again, accused of striking a 50-year-old photographer. ♪ i've been waiting for this moment all my life ♪ >> he still has it. brian: in this situation, he thought his daughter was in jeopardy. he was with his wife and daughter and said that he was acting in self-defense. the photographer said tyson punched him once, calling it -- causing him to fall. gretchen: let's take a look at the weather picture across the country. steve: we have a big blob through the mid-atlantic as this historic storm system moves through the area. çall whole lot of rain in north carolina. we have some video from portsmouth, virginia. it has been a slow go. rainfall amounts through saturday morning, in some parts of delaware, maryland, and virginia, could be up to 4 inches. in some parts of virginia, as much as 1 foot of rain could before it . brian: the cma's were pretty fun last night. gretchen: and they decided to take a shot at kanye. >> ♪ don't let your babies grow up to be kanye ♪ >> ♪ cowboys have manners they do not interrupt ♪ steve: [laughter] later on in the night, they had some fun poking fun at kanye. brian: nidal hasan will be tried in military court. but who makes that decision? gretchen: are your kids having trouble behaving? should you treat them like a killer whale? we will have a killer whale trainer with us next. ç brian: he was e-mail in with al qaeda, suspected of being a radical, so how come the public cannot get answers about major nidal hasan? we are going to military tribunal, right? >> i think so. the reason i say that is because he has not been charged yet. to the extent what he did occurred on military property, the department of defense makes the decision, do we try him, send him to the department of justice to be tried in texas? do we send him to the state of texas? i think the military will want to try and themselves because they want to internally solve these problems that caused him to do this in the first place. brian: according to your pre- interview, you do not believe there is a strong prosecutor on the military side. >> the military has not executed someone since 1961. çit was for a variety of crimes that had to do nothing with terrorism. there is no prosecutor in the military who has ever prosecuted level love county case. there is an expert team in the sttl of texas that prosecute to the death penalty cases every week. brian: you are impressed with the defense attorney that hasan has? >> he has done some marvelous things on the behalf of his clients of getting the penalty lesson from what the government has asked. he used to be a prosecutor in the military and understand exactly how these tribunal's work. brian: we are one week away from the event. there are some officers who say he was disconnected, paranoid, and belligerent. some have called him psychotic, wondering aloud if he was fit to be a psychiatrist. >> this is an indictment of the military that this type of thought process was going on. it may hurt the government's case. if his defense is insanity, he did not know right from wrong, but that he was shooting a sack of potatoes, and that is what he is going to argue to a jury, everything that has been said will be put into evidence and it will hurt the prosecution. premeditation would not matter. brian: what is coming up on the show? >> we have some startling information about the relationship between the cia and the military. and ambassador john bolton will be with us. brian:ç nice to see you. >> it was great to see you as well. why did they kick you out? brian: want to get your kids under control? we are at sea world with more. first, bill hemmer it is here to tell us what is coming up. ì(lc@&c+ economy. president obama talks about that. we are also getting a firsthand look at the apartment of nidal hasan, what his apartment reveals about him. we will see you at the top of the the hour. . gretchen: see if you can figure this one out. what do killer whales and kids have in common? a lot more than you might think. steve: a former killer whale trainer joins us with his son. his new book is, "whale done parenting." you were a trainer for decades. you applied to the things you learn from the killer whales with the boy who is sitting right next to you. >> you are absolutely right. through the years, we've learned how to work our animals using positive reinforcement. we used note negatives. as i started to have children, we used the same concepts. you do trained animals and people different. the concepts are the same. we reinforced him when he made the right choices. he learned in his life to do the right things to get attention. gretchen: it could be a complement the you are as easy to train as a killer whale. you obviously feel like your parents did a good job. i want to look at some of the tips. i find this fascinating. the first one is setting kids up for success. how did your dad do that for you? >> they always put me in positions to succeed. it makes it much easier to reinforce the positive spin when i'm more easily to succeed. steve: ignore or redirect bad behavior. if he did something bad, you would never reinforce that. >> it was really based on what he wendid wrong, too. when he calmed down, we explain to him what he should have done. when he started to do those behaviors, we would reinforce them for doing the right things. we brought the least amount of attention to when he did things wrong. >> when do you put a killer whale in a time out? >> we really ignore it? we move on. we redirect it to another behavior they can succeed at. steve: the final tip is reward when good behavior happens. that is what you really do at sea world. you bribe them. >> room boarding is the most important process. -- repwarding is the most important process. based on behavior, we should reinforce those behaviors' so we can increase it. it works very effectively with animals and kids. gretchen: and adults, too. great to see both of you. i love this connection. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. steve: we will continue live from new york in two minutes. e de l ng tigin brian: the girl who cannot stop sneezing is with us tomorrow. 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