going to work in this new era of authoritarian aggression. david: but senator sullivan, a lot of us who have got family in the military are frankly worried about how deeply the united states should get involved after what happened in afghanistan. if we're going to say, we just heard the democratic congressman criticize the president's rhetoric on ukraine-russia. so are you concerned that we have the right leadership in place to carry out a more aggressive plan against russia? >> don't get me wrong, i do not -- i do not support sending u.s. troops to ukraine. i do support the administration's focus on bolstering our n.a.t.o. allies in the region with other n.a.t.o. troops, by the way. can't just always be the u.s. troops, but we have an obligation to our n.a.t.o. allies, poland, the baltics,