than the pope when it comes to the russian threat. david: there are historical precedents for deals between russia and germany. i'm just wondering if germany will-- might germany split from n.a.t.o.? could it lead to something as dramatic as that? >> it will be sort of an unwritten defacto split which in a way is already happening. they're more than willing to let the united states fund their defense, and then they get to play the good cop and we play the bad cop, the thing is we get bad trade agreements with germany and underwrite their defense even though they're rich. david: and paid for the money and n.a.t.o. as well. and finally, our pipeline, our pipelines were closed by president biden at the same time that the pipeline deal between germany and russia was opened.