listen. >> i think that everyone's like, oh, my god, just release everybody? >> that's -- >> yeah. but do you see how many people who are mentally ill who are in prisonsome. >> yeah, but you're saying release everyone. >> yeah. >> and what i'm trying to say -- >> within ten years. and there's a process of looking at how can we get away from mass incarceration and move toward care -- edward: what are your thoughts on that, getting away from mass incarceration? >> well, i think her idea is a terrible one. look, the fact is if you closed all the federal prisons, i'm not quite sure where we're going to put individuals who are currently in prison for a good reason; namely, they're either paying the penalty for the crime they committed or they pose a clear and present danger to society. it's all well and good to sea let's to close all the prisons, but what are you going to do with these dangerous people? are you going to put them in overcrowded state facilities? let them loose on the streets of our community? not quite sure what the answer