yeah, yeah, sure you got it right, joe. >> he actually did. >> he did. >> in this era of trump, then bernie could win or aoc could win. >> this positions aoc for 2024, let's be clear. neil: really? >> oh, she has her-- >> for mayor of-- >> sights on higher office, mayor, senator or ultimately president. she is as popular in the democratic party as any of these. neil: i always follow where the money is going and the small denominations, it's going to elizabeth warrens and bernie sanders, the president benefitted for that and the support he got in small denominations and i know that's where it goes the question were the votes to follow? what do you think? >> aoc is certainly great at consolidating the base of the democratic party. i think she has trouble