when they were asked what they'd do different on the economy they struggled to find an iota of information or fact that could actually throw some shade on what's happening overall. neil: well, would not help the recovery and-- >> well, i think it would be hard to argue that the economy is in better shape than it was, you know, when the president got into office. so he's going to keep pushing the stronger markets certainly. the record low unemployment rates, one group after another, a lot of democrat constituents, that's what he's going to pound, right? >> i think, neil, if he take the politics out of it and meaning that we have an election on the way and we really look at what the president's doing and forget how he's handling it in terms of tweets. if you look at the environment, this is the time for a president to take on china. he's got the wind at his back, related to the economy. we're in a very strong-- >> but he's facing a few more headwinds. >> he's always going to face some headwinds. but, neil, this is the absolute