>> bill: thank you for your time. david perkins, nice to have you on board here. thank you, sir, very much. the australian prime minister they are sending all kinds of stuff. armored gear for ukraine soldiers and bushwhackers. they are the giant arm ored personnel carriers coming out of australia and go into the battlefield in ukraine soon. >> sandra: we continue to help those who are helping those in need in ukraine. red cross volunteers headed to the city of mariupol this morning to help evacuate residents there stranded as the shelling continues across that city leaving behind a widespread path of destruction. it comes as putin continues to enforce his siege warfare strategy in several ukrainian cities. steve harrigan is reporting live in atlanta for us with more on the medieval war-time plan. >> you say medieval and you're right. a strategy that has than changed in thousands of years.