they advised that if you withdrew, the afghan military logistic support, intelligence support, maintenance support and air support all at once it would likely fail. then once biden made those decisions, bipartisan both side of the aisle in congress and the military began demanding and began the evacuation back in april. the state department didn't listen. the biden white house didn't listen. and now we have 13 new gold star families on top of americans or allies being left behind and a stain on our credibility around the world. >> bill: thank you for your service. you understand chain of command. the chain of command says the commander-in-chief says do it eventually you have to do it. isn't that where it stops? >> look, i think at the end of the day the military took this crap sandwich so to speak and this flawed judgment in terms of oshders and tried to make