and i think that we will move to a more manageable endemic this year instead of a pandemic and more likely to raise prices than to lower them. >> bill: just to be clear you are saying that if covid levels off and then the climb that could be worse? >> both increased supply, which is what everyone is talking about. but also increase demand. more people will have jobs, more people will have money and want to go out and spend it. so in the service sector for things like airfare and hotels, that should create some upward price pressure there. more global travel means a higher price of oil, higher price of gasoline. a more manageable endemic could be positive. >> bill: we started the program looking for the good news and i don't think we found it yet. i just want to point out what quinnipiac told us. 54% of those americans polled say it is getting worse.