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ursula, thank you for being here today. you give voice to the fallen. with so many families trying to understand what's next, what can you share from your experience that could be of high value to them in their own lives? >> well, thank you so much for having me. definitely these two weeks have been very difficult for the gold star community. we have been asking ourselves what was it for? was the service and the sacrifice of our loved ones worth it? and i am trying to answer that question to myself by talking to different people who deployed with him and who deployed before and after him and have been there for many, many years. and i was able to come to the understanding that it was indeed worth it. they went there, they accomplished a mission, and

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