when asked to help us break it all down, democratic strategist and former deputy assistant to president george w. bush. good to see you. we will start with you. we look at this as nancy pelosi being a master puppeteer, is this just an example or perhaps has strategies so that she does not have to send the articles to the senate? >> i don't know she's a master puppeteer, but certainly a master strategist and legislature, she is viewing these two articles as leverage in hopes that we get some kind of a fair trial out of the senate. >> leland: to this next point of the intelligence committee and judiciary committee talk about calling him, subpoenaing him, does that give her longer to play this out? >> it certainly does, democrats have been wanting to hear from don mcgann, the former white house counselor to the president, his lawyer for quite some time especially during the mueller report, factored as a central figure when the president was seeking to fire